Am 12.07.2014 01:10, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
Hi
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I have no idea what HW is a problem; or if it's even the hardware.
Could be a race condition due to the different software packages.
Different modules being started by systemd,
Allegedly, on or about 12 July 2014, Rolf Turner sent:
> (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird
> spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders
> and subfolders.
You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your
system opera
Allegedly, on or about 11 July 2014, Mike Wright sent:
> Usually there is no mouse after this happens. A "return" returns me
> to the login screen and I can choose one of the different desktops
> from there, all of which work.
Do you have a second test login to try out, one without any
configura
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote:
...
***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please
keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe*
--- "Do this, and then this, and then this " I understand a fair
bit of Linux jargon, but there is a *
On 07/12/14 12:51, Rolf Turner wrote:
>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/thunderbird/libxul.so:
>> libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>
> Naturally I have no idea what this really means, or what if anything can be
> done about it.
>
> ***Is*** there
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote:
On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote:
P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance.
It should not matterbut that is a very old version.
So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that
Iam running a very el
On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote:
P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance.
It should not matterbut that is a very old version.
So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that
Iam running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explic
On 07/11/2014 11:12 PM, poma wrote:
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote:
So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am
running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't
dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this
list
On 11.07.2014 08:51, Fred Erickson wrote:
$ systemd-analyze blame
37.724s plymouth-quit-wait.service
29.148s accounts-daemon.service
27.960s firewalld.service
27.861s avahi-daemon.service
27.720s chronyd.service
Just to make you feel better abou
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote:
So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am
running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't
dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this
list about the problems that are involved
On 07/12/14 08:27, Rolf Turner wrote:
> On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>> Are you talking about imap folders? If so, the subscription information is
>> kept on the server side. So, for example, when I use T-Bird on a Virtual
>> Machine and define my existing email account all my subscr
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote:
On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote:
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without
success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many
contributors who are *so* kno
On 12/07/14 12:20, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should
occur and how one might prevent it from occurring?
That's a good question. Have you tried asking here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/product
On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote:
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without
success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many
contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, bu
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should
occur and how one might prevent it from occurring?
That's a good question. Have you tried asking here:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird
--
users mailing lis
On 12/07/14 12:04, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive:
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and
without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so
many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive,
On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote:
>
> This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and
> without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many
> contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above
> all *knowledgeable*) I
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive:
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and
without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so
many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic,
but above all *knowledg
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and
without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so
many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic,
but above all *knowledgeable*) I thought I would ask here.
The question is a
On 07/11/2014 03:33 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive:
On 07/11/2014 03:21 PM, Jackson Byers wrote:
What I am still very uncertain :
how to handle, ie backup,
dirs like
/dev, /proc, /sys, /srv
/media, /run
Don't. I'm not sure about /sys and /srv, but the rest are created by
the system at boot
Hi
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>
> I have no idea what HW is a problem; or if it's even the hardware. Could
> be a race condition due to the different software packages. Different
> modules being started by systemd, in different order
>
Is there a bug report?
Rahul
On 07/11/2014 03:21 PM, Jackson Byers wrote:
What I am still very uncertain :
how to handle, ie backup,
dirs like
/dev, /proc, /sys, /srv
/media, /run
Don't. I'm not sure about /sys and /srv, but the rest are created by
the system at boot, and all you would do by "restoring" them would be to
What I am still very uncertain :
how to handle, ie backup,
dirs like
/dev, /proc, /sys, /srv
/media, /run
In the past (f14,f16) I have muddled through these
somehow, but always felt I wasn't doing it quite correctly.
I recall some advice e.g., just create the dir, /dev, but not its
contents.?
o
Balint Szigeti writes:
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On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Ed Greshko writes:
> On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
> know it handles the boot screen and the
07/11/2014 01:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Another way is to use cloud images to bypass the installer entirely. Download a
qcow2 image, do a yum update to bring it up to date, then make snapshots of
that for each VM, point each VM to a different snapshot, and within each VM
regenerate machine-i
07/11/2014 01:07 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jul 11, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
Hi all,
Is it possible to install a live CD to a logical volume any more?
Yes.
I've tried repeatedly and just when I think I've got it the installer refuses
to proceed.
What's the filename of th
On Jul 11, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Gareth Williams
wrote:
>
>> There's an argument for totally ignoring NVRAM. rEFInd, an EFI boot manager,
>> produces its boot entries dynamically from fstab, a static configuration
>> file, and the contents of /boot. It ignores NVRAM, there's no constantly
>> mo
There's an argument for totally ignoring NVRAM. rEFInd, an EFI boot
manager, produces its boot entries dynamically from fstab, a static
configuration file, and the contents of /boot. It ignores NVRAM,
there's no constantly modified grub.cfg on the EFI system partition
when kernels are updated
On Jul 11, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to install a live CD to a logical volume any more?
Yes.
> I've tried repeatedly and just when I think I've got it the installer
> refuses to proceed.
What's the filename of the ISO you're using? What are the steps
On 07/11/2014 12:42 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
I am loathe to yum remove, yum install. The remove wants to take 554MB
of packages with it and I'm not willing to gamble that I'll have a
usable system afterwards.
It's possible that yum reinstall may work, but I'd suggest that you do a
backup RIGHT
On 07/11/2014 12:42 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
Since the only way to test bandwidth is to fill the connection until you
hit a limit on a serious note please do not do this at hotspots...
You will cause severe performance degradation for every other user
during your testing...
For that matter, i
On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Gareth Williams
wrote:
> On 11/07/14 06:24, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 4:56 AM, "Williams, Gareth"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My question therefore is: Does anaconda do something else after running
>>> 'efibootmgr' to make it permanent? Or: Why can anacon
Hi all,
Following a recent kernel update I rebooted and can no longer use
Gnome3. I receive this error:
"Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the
system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution."
Usually there is no mouse after this hap
On 10 Jul 2014 18:19, "JD" wrote:
> Very useful tools, especially while at hotspot cafe's.
> Are there any free public servers for ttcp and iperf?
Since the only way to test bandwidth is to fill the connection until you
hit a limit on a serious note please do not do this at hotspots...
You will
Hi all,
Is it possible to install a live CD to a logical volume any more? I've
tried repeatedly and just when I think I've got it the installer refuses
to proceed.
At one time this was possible. I needed lot of copies of f14 to use as
virtual machines so I installed to hard disk and on com
http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_t430
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-intel/bugs/all
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems#All_bug_reports
...
output of the dmesg command ...
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-x11-
On 11.07.2014 17:23, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
Hello,
On trying to boot, Fedora crashes on my Lenovo Thinkpad T430 with this
message:
Booting 'Fedora (3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64) 20 (Heisenbug)'
[ 2.718947] [drm:cpt:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO
underrun
Actual
I didn't have chance to try but I think the latest kernel fixes it:
> $ rpm -q --changelog kernel-3.15.4-200.fc20|more
> * Mon Jul 07 2014 Justin M. Forbes 3.15.4-200
> - Linux v3.15.4
> - Fixes CVE-2014-4715 (rhbz 1115767 1116362)
> - Fixes CVE-2014-4699 (rhbz 1115927 1116477)
>
> * Tue Jul 01
Hello,
On trying to boot, Fedora crashes on my Lenovo Thinkpad T430 with this
message:
Booting 'Fedora (3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64) 20 (Heisenbug)'
[ 2.718947] [drm:cpt:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO
underrun
Actually, all kernels after 3.13.10-200.fc20.x86_64 are cr
Ian Malone writes:
> On 10 July 2014 09:49, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>>>
You trust computers too much.
>>>
>>> No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
>>> system are compromised then what are you protecting
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 01:07 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Just installed F21 via NFS, using KDE as my workstation. It booted up to
> > the login screen, but it won't login. Have tried both GUI and terminal and
> > neither will logi
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> I don't think so you can get rid of the tint2. This is the panel 'manager'.
> You won't have panels without it.
Tint2 is an independent panel. I see no relation between Cinnamon and
Tint2. I have not used Cinnamon but they use their own pan
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 01:07 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Just installed F21 via NFS, using KDE as my workstation. It booted up to
> the login screen, but it won't login. Have tried both GUI and terminal and
> neither will login, whether regular user or root.
>
> Mike Chambers
>
F21 is unrelea
Thanks. That's strange because when I kill tint2 my panels works
better :) Anyway, it seems the issue may related to nvidia proprietary
drivers, so I've moved to nouveau. Hopefully this will solve the
problem.
L:
On 11 July 2014 14:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 15:58 +0200,
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 14:10 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> Balint Szigeti writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >
> > > Ed Greshko writes:
>
> ...
>
> >> Some kind of a hardware-dependent race condition in plymouth.
>
> > Could you give me more infor
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 15:58 +0200, Pal, Laszlo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In one of the previous update some clever guy made tint2 as dependency
> of Cinnamon... I don't know why, but it seems making my favourite
> environment much more unstable than earlier. At least handling the
> systray is a complete m
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Ed Greshko writes:
>
> > On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> > > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
> > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
> > > Does it mea
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2014, CS_DBA sent:
> Is there a accurate way of truly testing what upload and download
> speeds i'm getting?
Download a file, time it, and do the math... ;-\
On a serious note, some ISPs do give you a speed test that you can do by
downloading a large file from the
Ed Greshko writes:
On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
> Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
> Does it mean, if I remove this package I can't examine what happened
during the boot o
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:11:49 +0100
Balint Szigeti wrote:
> hello
>
> Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages?
> I know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during
> boot. Does it mean, if I remove this package I can't examine what
> happened during the
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
> On 11/07/14 08:27, Balint Szigeti wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I
know it h
(Sorry for TP)
Measuring speed can be a pig.
On the net there are a bunch of sites, claiming they can do this.
However, some require that you have to install all sorts of crap-ware, you to
enable eye-candy.
Furthermore, what do you need to know?
Latency or bandwidth, up-stream or down-stream?
An
On 11/07/14 08:27, Balint Szigeti wrote:
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote:
Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I know it
handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot.
Does it mean, if
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