Re: why do we use systemd?

On 08.07.2014 01:16, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 01:15, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 01:08:48AM +0200, poma wrote: On 08.07.2014 00:53, David Benfell wrote: poma writes: What is the "sediment" in the thread context? I suspect the word that was meant here is 'sentiment'. Yeah it

Re: Regex broken??

Mea culpa :-( Twice over in fact. 1. I hadn't noticed that the files in question were all DOS files sent to me by a windows user ( so trailing $ searches failed) and 2. I hadn't noticed that all lines started with a space. Elderly blindness. Sorry. Cheers, Stephen On 09/07/14 14:08, Ed Gr

Re: Regex broken??

On 07/09/14 12:21, Stephen Davies wrote: > On 09/07/14 13:47, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/08/2014 08:47 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: >>> Any ideas? >> >> Any details? > For example, > > /^xx > > or > > :g/^xx/s/xx/yy/ > > in vi finds nothing in a file with many lines starting with xx. > > Similarly grep

Re: Regex broken??

On 09/07/14 13:47, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/08/2014 08:47 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Any ideas? Any details? For example, /^xx or :g/^xx/s/xx/yy/ in vi finds nothing in a file with many lines starting with xx. Similarly grep -E "^xx" and gawk '/^xx/{print}'. In all cases, omitting the ^ fin

Re: Regex broken??

On 07/08/2014 08:47 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Any ideas? Any details? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidel

Regex broken??

I have just noticed that regex seems to be broken in my Fedora 20 (just updated to latest). Any regex search in vi, gawk, grep -E etc fails. Any ideas? Cheers, Stephen Davies -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fe

Re: Fedora 20 whois problem

Hi, Thanks for your reply. I have enabled IPv6 and that seems to have messed it up. After disabling IPv6, it now works again. Regards, Khem On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 10:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/09/14 10:07, Khemara Lyn wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > I seem to have problem with whois c

Re: Camera mounting

On 07/09/14 11:14, jarmo wrote: > Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:54:19 -0600 > Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti: > > >> Does it work as you expect with startx ? >> (which was modified to take that change into effect). >> >> kevin > Startx command tries launch KDE, what I used earlier.. > But... as said, now, when boot

Re: Camera mounting

Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:54:19 -0600 Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti: > Does it work as you expect with startx ? > (which was modified to take that change into effect). > > kevin Startx command tries launch KDE, what I used earlier.. But... as said, now, when booting direct into graphical mode, all works..

Re: Fedora 20 whois problem

On 07/09/14 10:07, Khemara Lyn wrote: > Dear All, > I seem to have problem with whois command. > whois x.x.x.x > [Querying whois.apnic.net] > [Unable to connect to remote host] > > Any help would be much appreciated. > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ whois 202.79.24.36 [Querying whois.apnic.net] [whois.apnic.

Question for Fedora users of Garmin nuvi GPS

Hello, Everyone I know that I can just go drive to a computer that has Windows installed on it and get this over with, but I shouldn't have to do that... I have new Garmin nuvi65LM GPS and of course the "GarminExpress" updating program that they force you to use only runs on Windows and Mac. I tri

Fedora 20 whois problem

Dear All, I seem to have problem with whois command. whois x.x.x.x [Querying whois.apnic.net] [Unable to connect to remote host] Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Khem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: SImple amp for F20

excuse me poma, tho _slightly_ off topic as you say, i would like to add this: On 07/07/2014 08:47 AM, Doug wrote: <<>> There are also some small ferrite toroids that could be installed > on some wires inside the amp. That would involve unsoldering the > wire, slipping the core over the wire

[corrected!] Re: 5tFTW: DNF and Mailing List Wars, F21 Branch, FESCo Election, Python 3.5, and Docs Beats (2014-07-08)

Let's try that again, with the right message body! Reposted from . Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just

5tFTW: DNF and Mailing List Wars, F21 Branch, FESCo Election, Python 3.5, and Docs Beats (2014-07-08)

Reposted from . Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five

Re: why do we use systemd?

Hi On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Norman Gaywood wrote: > What about a file without a name? :-) > > If you delete all filenames of a file while it is opened by a process, > it still uses filesystem space but has no name. > There are other cases as well http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.11#hea

Re: Camera mounting

On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:48:46 +0300 jarmo wrote: > Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:55:46 -0700 > Joe Zeff kirjoitti: > > > > I'm using F 19 with Xfce. If I insert a flash drive, it's mounted > > without asking for a password because that's what I told Xfce how I > > wanted this handled. The same thing g

Re: why do we use systemd?

On 7 July 2014 08:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 13:01 -0700, David Benfell wrote: >> *What*, for example, is "the usual meaning" of "file system objects?" >> A >> file? Why not just say "file?" And if the documentation really means >> files >> or pipes or devices, then why

Re: why do we use systemd?

Hi On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:07 PM, David Benfell wrote: > lee writes: > >> >> And only seven votes? Are they serious? >> > > I didn't realize they'd only gotten seven votes (presumably of the > maintainers who advocate systemd). I do understand that quorum rules need > to be loose enough to all

Re: why do we use systemd?

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On 7-5-14 14:30:39 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > +1. One of my pet gripes about systemd is that it introduces a lot of > > new terminology without a clear explanation. > > Have you looked at the manual pages? I know of no other project t

Re: why do we use systemd?

David Benfell writes: > lee writes: >> >> And only seven votes? Are they serious? > > I didn't realize they'd only gotten seven votes (presumably of the > maintainers who advocate systemd). I do understand that quorum rules > need to be loose enough to allow anything at all to get done. > > But

Re: why do we use systemd?

lee writes: I don't mind this idea. Yet when I disable something, I expect it to be disabled. This is another terminology issue, which I think should be viewed separately from the merits/demerits of systemd itself. And I'm inclined to agree that the terms are poorly chosen. I guess the

Re: why do we use systemd?

lee writes: And only seven votes? Are they serious? I didn't realize they'd only gotten seven votes (presumably of the maintainers who advocate systemd). I do understand that quorum rules need to be loose enough to allow anything at all to get done. But this seems *too* loose. -- David

Re: why do we use systemd?

Joe Zeff writes: > In systemd, a service that's disabled won't be directly started at > boot, but another service can still start it either at boot or later. That means that the service is *not* disabled. > To keep a service from being started by systemd under any > circumstances, you need to m

Re: why do we use systemd?

David Benfell writes: > https://wiki.debian.org/systemd > > "systemd was included in Debian wheezy as a technology preview" > > However, it appears that even though they have taken their vote, and > chosen systemd, they have not yet developed service files for all > their packages (neither has Fe

Re: Camera mounting

Joe Zeff writes: > computer, it's configured more for convenience than security. Each > person's needs are different, and this is just another example where > *nix lets people do things their own way instead of insisting that > there's One True Way. Choices are good to have. Unfortunately, the

Re: Camera mounting

Ian Malone writes: > By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage > you open the potential for exploits. How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is it? -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: running instance on OpenStack Folsom release

Hi Denis, On 08-07-14 16:57, Denis Betivu wrote: /Hello, I installed OpenStack Folsom on Fedora 18 according to the instructions I found on this website: //fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_18 but I encountered an error when trying to launch an instance. I google

Re: The new skype-4.3.0.37 is out. Build your own rpm for Fedora 20

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 07/08/2014 11:51 AM, JD issued this missive: > >> Well, I would like to see a fully open source and secure >> SIP app like skype. >> > > Wow, JD. A simple google search would have revealed a lot on that front. > > Some FOSS SIP servers: > A

Re: The new skype-4.3.0.37 is out. Build your own rpm for Fedora 20

On 07/08/2014 11:51 AM, JD issued this missive: Well, I would like to see a fully open source and secure SIP app like skype. Wow, JD. A simple google search would have revealed a lot on that front. Some FOSS SIP servers: Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, Mysipsqitch, OpenSER, sipX Some FOSS SIP clients:

Re: The new skype-4.3.0.37 is out. Build your own rpm for Fedora 20

Well, I would like to see a fully open source and secure SIP app like skype. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Cristian Sava wrote: > On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 21:01 +0630, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > > On Friday, June 20, 2014 01:28:13 PM Cristian Sava wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > For those of you

running instance on OpenStack Folsom release

Hello, I installed OpenStack Folsom on Fedora 18 according to the instructions I found on this website: fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_18 but I encountered an error when trying to launch an instance. I googled a lot but I could not find anybody else who encou

Re: Camera mounting

On 8 July 2014 01:15, lee wrote: > Tim writes: > >> Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent: >>> Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something? >> >> Because *I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into *my* computer, logged in as >> *myself*... > > That doesn't mean that you should be allo

Re: Make .desktop file show up?

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I was figuring out how to install an app, and made the .desktop > file for it and put it under /usr/share/applications, but it > didn't show up in the gnome 3 search till much later (maybe > after logout/login or reboot, I forget when I noticed

Cinnamon / tint2

Hi, In one of the previous update some clever guy made tint2 as dependency of Cinnamon... I don't know why, but it seems making my favourite environment much more unstable than earlier. At least handling the systray is a complete mess... how can I get rid of this tiny but annoying component? Than

Re: Camera mounting

Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:55:46 -0700 Joe Zeff kirjoitti: > I'm using F 19 with Xfce. If I insert a flash drive, it's mounted > without asking for a password because that's what I told Xfce how I > wanted this handled. The same thing goes for my mp3 player and > camera. For various reasons, I have

Make .desktop file show up?

I was figuring out how to install an app, and made the .desktop file for it and put it under /usr/share/applications, but it didn't show up in the gnome 3 search till much later (maybe after logout/login or reboot, I forget when I noticed it was there). Is there some magic incantation to make gnom

Re: The new skype-4.3.0.37 is out. Build your own rpm for Fedora 20

On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 21:01 +0630, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Friday, June 20, 2014 01:28:13 PM Cristian Sava wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > For those of you wanting skype.rpm for F20: > > 1) Install the rpm building environment as shown here: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_pac