Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:02:52PM +0200, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > On 06/16/14 14:45, Jan Zelený wrote: > >feel free to reopen the bug too, otherwise it might get off the radar. > > How do I, as a normal user, re-open a bug? Can not see any way more than > cloning it. Is that how it's supposed

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 02:45:17PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the > kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this > accidentally. > That being said, if users accidentally instruct yum to erase the running

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/16/2014 05:45 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the kernel? I can remember needing to get rid of all kernels except for the running one on at least one occasion. (It was the oldest one and for some reason the two newer ones wer

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread poma
On 16.06.2014 22:02, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 06/16/14 14:45, Jan Zelený wrote: ... ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this accidentally. Well, with 'yum erase kernel' you can not accidenta

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 06/16/14 14:45, Jan Zelený wrote: We originally didn't want to implement anything like this for three reasons: a) in our opinion, dnf should not do the thinking for admins It should have sensible defaults so that a user can not hose the system by accident. What would the use case be to r

Re: Selinux Packaging [WAS: Wifi connection issues with Intel?]

2014-06-16 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > On 06/16/2014 02:15 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > >> Ok, just to be clear, I still need to remove the (/.*)? parts? I found > the packaging draft I referred to: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/SELinux > > Which shows inc

Re: Selinux Packaging [WAS: Wifi connection issues with Intel?]

2014-06-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 06/16/2014 02:15 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > > > On 06/16/2014 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel J Walsh >> mailto:dwa...@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> >>

problems with a high res display

2014-06-16 Thread Dave Bremer
I have a Dell M4800 with a 3200x1800 display, an nVidia Quadro 2100M, and Fedora 20. It was working very well. But after installing updates today, the gnome display manager cannot start. Anyone know of a fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscript

Selinux Packaging [WAS: Wifi connection issues with Intel?]

2014-06-16 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > On 06/16/2014 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > >> >> On 06/12/2014 10:14 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Daniel J Walsh >> wrote: >> >>> T

Re: Wifi connection issues with Intel?

2014-06-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 06/16/2014 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > > > On 06/12/2014 10:14 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Daniel J Walsh >> mailto:dwa...@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >>> Th

Re: Wifi connection issues with Intel?

2014-06-16 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > On 06/12/2014 10:14 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > >> The full unifi software is java with a mongodb database backend and >> works fine. I have a RPM I created, the only probl

Re: Wifi connection issues with Intel?

2014-06-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 06/12/2014 10:14 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > >> The full unifi software is java with a mongodb database backend >> and works fine. I have a RPM I created, the only problem I >> haven't been able to f

Re: Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread edik landave
*Security* *NTLMv1 auth has been disabled, NTLM support on non-Windows platforms is now deprecated* - Bug 828183 ? Firefox enables insecure NTLM (pre-NTLMv2) authentication - Bug 999306 ? Allow generic NTLM v1 if pref set

Re: Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 16/06/2014 alle 20.39 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: > You're welcome. > > This setting does seem to indicate that if you have control over the > other system you should update it to run v2 which is considered more > secure. The server to which I connect and use the NTLM V1 is a MS

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 04:04:24PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > > You are assuming limited by your own experience that this is done > > accidentally. > And hence the poll I'm a little skeptical that the poll will reach the right segment of responders to get a valuable response. -- Matthew Miller F

Re: Error while updating system

2014-06-16 Thread Someone
On 06/16/2014 11:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Once you've booted with a newer kernel, you could uninstall older kernel > packages *and* any kmod packages for those kernels. > What would that look like, in my case? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: Error while updating system

2014-06-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:36:02 +0800, Someone wrote: > I ran "sudo yum update -y" a few days ago, as I often do, and I saw the > following error: > > Error: Package: > kmod-VirtualBox-3.14.6-200.fc20.x86_64-4.3.12-1.fc20.2.x86_64 > (rpmfusion-free-updates) >Requires: kernel-uname-r = 3.

Error while updating system

2014-06-16 Thread Someone
I ran "sudo yum update -y" a few days ago, as I often do, and I saw the following error: Error: Package: kmod-VirtualBox-3.14.6-200.fc20.x86_64-4.3.12-1.fc20.2.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates) Requires: kernel-uname-r = 3.14.6-200.fc20.x86_64 Installed: kernel-3.14.4-200.fc20.

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread poma
On 06/16/2014 04:04 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: On 16. 6. 2014 at 09:19:21, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this accid

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 6. 2014 at 09:19:21, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the > > kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this > > accidentally. > > You are assumin

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread poma
On 06/16/2014 03:23 PM, Paul Knox-Kennedy wrote: On 06/16/14 04:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/16/14 16:37, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: So there is still a considerable difference in what each of them does here, I ran into this the other day. It would seem the way dnf handles c

RE: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Paul Knox-Kennedy
> > On 06/16/14 04:42, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 06/16/14 16:37, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > >> > So there is still a considerable difference in what each of them > >> > does here, > > I ran into this the other day. It would seem the way dnf > handles caching is different from

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 14:45:17 +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this accidentally. That being said, if users accidentally instruct yum to erase the running kernel on

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the > kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this > accidentally. > You are assuming limited by your own experience that this is done accidentally

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 6. 2014 at 07:49:55, David wrote: > On 6/16/2014 7:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 06/16/14 19:00, David wrote: > >> On 6/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> On 06/16/14 12:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > By the way, 'dnf erase kernel' scares me :-O > >>> > >>> FWIW, it has been sugges

Re: Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/16/14 18:33, Dario Lesca wrote: > I love this kind of suggest because it solve the problem. > > With this setting to true, the NTLM of FF30 work again > > Many Thanks You're welcome. This setting does seem to indicate that if you have control over the other system you should update it t

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread David
On 6/16/2014 7:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/16/14 19:00, David wrote: >> On 6/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 06/16/14 12:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: By the way, 'dnf erase kernel' scares me :-O >>> FWIW, it has been suggested that the DNF developers would consider this a >>> bug i

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 21:12 +0200, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: > On 06/09/14 16:28, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Do you have the bug reference? I'd rather find out before dnf leaves me > > with a non-bootable system. The reason I'm harping on about it is that > > in a thread on this list a few mont

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/16/14 19:00, David wrote: > On 6/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 06/16/14 12:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >>> By the way, 'dnf erase kernel' scares me :-O >> FWIW, it has been suggested that the DNF developers would consider this a >> bug if the number of CC's on >> https://bugzilla.re

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread David
On 6/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/16/14 12:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >> By the way, 'dnf erase kernel' scares me :-O > > FWIW, it has been suggested that the DNF developers would consider this a bug > if the number of CC's on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049310 > was

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 14. 6. 2014 at 11:05:03, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 06/14/2014 12:05 AM, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote, On 06/07/2014 03:57 PM (EEST): > >> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 07:47:37 -0500 > >> > >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>> For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. >

Re: Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 16/06/2014 alle 17.54 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto: > One thing you can try. > > In FF30 they seem to have added a new parameter > network.negotiate-auth.allow-insecure-ntlm-v1 to "about:config". > By default it is set to "false". Try setting it to true. I love this kind of

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 06/16/14 04:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/16/14 16:37, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > So there is still a considerable difference in what each of them does here, I ran into this the other day. It would seem the way dnf handles caching is different from yum. Not 100% sure/convin

Re: Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/16/14 17:15, Dario Lesca wrote: > After last firefox update the NTLM auth do not work anymore. > > I have download the previous version of FF from Fedora old repo > (firefox-29.0.1-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm) and install it: NTLM auth work. > > (NOTE: "yum downgrade firefox" do not work with this erro

Firefox 30 and NTLM auth

2014-06-16 Thread Dario Lesca
After last firefox update the NTLM auth do not work anymore. I have download the previous version of FF from Fedora old repo (firefox-29.0.1-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm) and install it: NTLM auth work. (NOTE: "yum downgrade firefox" do not work with this error) > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transa

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/16/14 16:37, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > So there is still a considerable difference in what each of them does here, I ran into this the other day. It would seem the way dnf handles caching is different from yum. Not 100% sure/convinced this "fixed" my problembut afte

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 06/16/14 00:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 06/09/2014 06:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:59:15AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: till October) will give folks plenty of time to hone their dnf skills. IMO, for many (majority?) it will be a drop-in replacement for yum. Yes, tha