Re: super duper uberthread

2014-03-28 Thread poma
On 26.03.2014 23:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 22:42 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> David G. Miller wrote: >> >>> The funny thing is that back in the earliest days of Unix, /usr is where >>> user directories lived. When K&R ran out of room in / for programs, they >>> loo

Re: death key combo

2014-03-28 Thread g
On 03/28/14 13:29, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, f18 Just had an inexplicable (to me) event occur. Accidentally typed "ctrl-alt-l" which caused a logout from my runlevel 5, but did NOT shut down the running processes. ]$ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-431.11.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP T

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-28 Thread g
On 03/28/14 10:25, Tim wrote: Tim: When you mis-set the DPI, you lose the ability for applications to show "actual size" objects. Such as graphics designers, or desktop publishers, who want to design something with real-world measurements (i.e. centimeters, not pixels), and have the program s

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Max
On 03/25/2014 02:24 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:41 AM, lee wrote: Chris Murphy writes: Partitioning took me about three hours with the installer of F19, with a very simple setup and not even data to preserve and neither RAID, nor encryption, and it was only possible after

Re: death key combo

2014-03-28 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/28/2014 11:29 AM, Mike Wright issued this missive: Hi all, f18 Just had an inexplicable (to me) event occur. Accidentally typed "ctrl-alt-l" which caused a logout from my runlevel 5, but did NOT shut down the running processes. I was left with 6 running VMs, a host (not a pun) of other

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
ausearch -m avc,user_avc -i Or just attach the full output of the sealert command. The AVC's are at the bottom. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http:

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?")

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:40:36 + Liam Proven wrote: Meantime, for further Fedora eval, it's going in a VirtualBox. Sad, but that's all it seems able to handle. Actually, that's the key to installing on disk in a sensibly created partition layout: Install in a virtual mach

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?")

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 21, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Liam Proven wrote: Secondly, I can confirm this finding. I was completely unable to install F20 using the current installer program. My system has 2 drives - a 1TB HD and a 120GB SSD. The SSD holds Ubuntu and Win7; the 1TB drive holds /home,

Re: death key combo

2014-03-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/28/2014 11:29 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Please, insight, magic key codes, valium... Try activating the Magic Sysrq key. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Co

death key combo

2014-03-28 Thread Mike Wright
Hi all, f18 Just had an inexplicable (to me) event occur. Accidentally typed "ctrl-alt-l" which caused a logout from my runlevel 5, but did NOT shut down the running processes. I was left with 6 running VMs, a host (not a pun) of other processes and a login prompt. Once authenticated the o

Re: Advice on which web browser as a second choice.

2014-03-28 Thread Lee
My two are seamonkey and Firefox. For quick lookups, I often use lynx in a terminal. On Mar 28, 2014 7:30 AM, "Bill Case" wrote: > Hi; > > I used to use epiphany, now web, as my second browser. Firefox has > always been my first choice. > > But I like to use a small really quick browser for extr

Advice on which web browser as a second choice.

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Case
Hi; I used to use epiphany, now web, as my second browser. Firefox has always been my first choice. But I like to use a small really quick browser for extra tasks like looking up definitions of words or doing a quick wikipedia search while writing. I want something I can keep small on the page

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, “Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 21 March 2014, Powell, Michael sent: The system name or hostname is important to networking; so, I can see why it's under networking, but I believe your frustration is more related to the lack of guidance and quality than anything else. Well, actually, for a l

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Paul Cartwright wrote: On 03/26/2014 01:32 AM, Robin Laing wrote: I`m not an expert with Fedoras installers in any way. This is simply my "user experience". Maybe the "user experience" the installer provides should be different. It is hidden. I do use it. If you were trying the live dis

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Powell, Michael wrote: It doesn`t give you choices. It leaves you in the dark about that it is somehow possible to use an non-gui installer and to do a minimal install. It leaves you in the dark about what exactly happens when you do the partitioning and with trying to figure out how get the pa

Re: Advice on which web browser as a second choice.

2014-03-28 Thread Doug
On 03/28/2014 10:30 AM, Bill Case wrote: Hi; I used to use epiphany, now web, as my second browser. Firefox has always been my first choice. But I like to use a small really quick browser for extra tasks like looking up definitions of words or doing a quick wikipedia search while writing. I w

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:41 AM, lee wrote: Chris Murphy writes: What I ought to do is not QA Manual Partitioning anymore and just let the people who actually think they need or want it do all the testing and bug reporting for it and let it become whatever it becomes.

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/28/2014 09:47 AM, Bill Davidsen issued this missive: Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/25/2014 12:10 PM, Powell, Michael wrote: I disagree; if a user is presented with the following filesystem choices, btrfs, ext2, ext3, ext4, JFS, reiser4, reiserFS, and ZFS, and each is presented equally with a sing

Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part II, “What’s Happening?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Matthew Miller
I promised a while ago that I would provide a text version of my talk at DevConf, for people who couldn't make it and because sitting through a video of me standing up there going on and on doesn't really make for good followup discussion. I posted a link to the first part last week:

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

2014-03-28 Thread Tim
Tim: >> When I was young, we didn't have no computers. We used pencil and >> paper, and we were grateful. ;-) Rick Stevens: > And you probably ate dirt and carpet fuzz as well. Only when we were lucky. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/25/2014 12:10 PM, Powell, Michael wrote: I disagree; if a user is presented with the following filesystem choices, btrfs, ext2, ext3, ext4, JFS, reiser4, reiserFS, and ZFS, and each is presented equally with a single paragraph describing its benefits, unless the user has pr

video shimmer

2014-03-28 Thread Claude Jones
I changed KVMs today, a more modern version of my IOGear USB switch. The three Windows machines on it look perfect. My Fedora machine has shimmering or vibrating effects around the edges of windows, fonts, and icons. The screen is viewable but really annoying. I'm running an NVidia 9500 card an

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-28 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Futzing the DPI is not really a good idea, and should only be done as >> a last resort. Firstly, GUI designers ought to make it easy for user >> to select the font AND icon sizes that they want, properly. If >> people stopped futzing the DPI, there might be more pressure placed >> on them

Re: Advice on which web browser as a second choice.

2014-03-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hello everyone, I use xombrero https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/xombrero and dillo. Neither however is compatible with DuckDuckGo with encrypted Google Suggest Search plugin: http://eligrey.com/blog/post/tag/search (or at least I could not figure out how to use with these). Hence, for searchi

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-28 Thread Tim
Tim: >> When you mis-set the DPI, you lose the ability for applications to >> show "actual size" objects. Such as graphics designers, or desktop >> publishers, who want to design something with real-world >> measurements (i.e. centimeters, not pixels), and have the program >> show it at life size

Re: Advice on which web browser as a second choice.

2014-03-28 Thread Lawrence E Graves
On 03/28/2014 08:59 AM, Lee wrote: My two are seamonkey and Firefox. For quick lookups, I often use lynx in a terminal. On Mar 28, 2014 7:30 AM, "Bill Case" > wrote: Hi; I used to use epiphany, now web, as my second browser. Firefox has always bee

Re: linux-lvm question

2014-03-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:00:21AM -0600, Shane Johnson wrote: > The only option I know of is to vgremove {vg} --removemissing and > sometimes you may even have to use a -f to force it. But be aware, > this will destroy any LVs you have on that PV. I have had one person > recommend to me trying d

Re: smart errors- move grub to sdb ?

2014-03-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 07:56:51PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 27 Offline uncorrectable sectors > > ok, I have a dual-disk setup. /dev/sda has my /home and is getting errors > fedora "/" is actually /dev/sdb1 . > > I also have a spare partition on sdb that my /home is

Adding files to Mock environment

2014-03-28 Thread Adam Bishop
Good Morning, I have a package that I want to rebuild with support for some extra features. To do this, some non-packaged files (an SDK) need to be available within the build environment. Is there a configuration directive that can instruct Mock just to copy a directory into the build root? T

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/27/2014 08:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> What was the AVC that you got? >>> >> On 03/27/2014 04:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> > Not sure exactly how to check. /var/log/secure has lots of entries.. I >> > didn't write down the error message and the window is gone. where do I >> > look ? >> >

Re: Is it irrelevant what users of FOSS think? (Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?"))

2014-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Robin Laing wrote: > On 2014-03-26 03:12, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> >> It is Fedora policy to not do that: >> >> >> > > I know this and I don't like it when there is a broken package in use on > Fedor