Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/12/14 15:38, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:23:56 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> --enablerepo would need to be available to yumdownloader since the >> user may well want to download the source from "rawhide" so they >> indeed need to enable it. > --enablerepo= is available but

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:23:56 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > --enablerepo would need to be available to yumdownloader since the > user may well want to download the source from "rawhide" so they > indeed need to enable it. --enablerepo= is available but would need previous yum\dnf install fedora-rele

Re: best recipe for building a new kernel on fedora 20?

2014-02-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.02.2014, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > well, sure, but that's definitely not equivalent to building from > the official fedora source rpm, which comes with red hat-supplied > patches. Unless you're using something very special which depends on those patches, you'll be fine with a vanilla ker

Re: 'module' object has no attribute 'RPMSENSE_GREATER'

2014-02-11 Thread Stephen Davies
It seems that my fiddling with Python from source has zapped at least parts of the original. I can find no combination of bin and lib that does everything properly. I can set up for /usr/bin and /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 (which does exist and has python2.7) or /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib an

Re: QEMU boot of raw GPT partition

2014-02-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Pedro Francisco wrote: > Hello! > I'm considering the hypothesis of booting a raw GPT partition on QEMU. > > I was pondering basing my attempt on: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Simulate_virtual_disk_with_MBR_using_linear_RAID > . > > Basically, I w

Re: Strange problem -

2014-02-11 Thread g
On 02/12/2014 02:56 AM, poma wrote: On 10.02.2014 14:17, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: … But the sledgehammer [bobG, new user] works! Bob http://www.youtube.com/embed/cQl6r0fqRAI?rel=0&border=0&autoplay=1 :) great series. lmao nearly every time i watched it. -- peace out. i

Re: 'module' object has no attribute 'RPMSENSE_GREATER'

2014-02-11 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: > The /usr/local/bin version of python came from my manually building and > installing Python 2.7.6 as part of my attempts to build FreeCAD. > > If I hide all of the /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib Python components, > the original is unable

Re: Strange problem -

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 10.02.2014 14:17, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: … > But the sledgehammer [bobG, new user] works! > > Bob > http://www.youtube.com/embed/cQl6r0fqRAI?rel=0&border=0&autoplay=1 :) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: 'module' object has no attribute 'RPMSENSE_GREATER'

2014-02-11 Thread Stephen Davies
The /usr/local/bin version of python came from my manually building and installing Python 2.7.6 as part of my attempts to build FreeCAD. If I hide all of the /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib Python components, the original is unable to find modules - even if I set PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME. Am

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 23:52, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 02/12/14 06:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> i just want something i can point at that proves the point. >> >> Yeah, I just realized that and sent a second message. Not enough >> coffee :-) > > no

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Robert P. J. Day > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > wiki pages: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the > user to explicitly en

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 23:48, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > currently (against my be

Re: building a new kernel, and firmware

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 23:41, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > last question about "building kernel" wiki page, i promise. here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel#Build_the_New_Kernel > > one reads: > > "To build with firmware included, do: > > rpmbuild -bb --with baseonly --with

QEMU boot of raw GPT partition

2014-02-11 Thread Pedro Francisco
Hello! I'm considering the hypothesis of booting a raw GPT partition on QEMU. I was pondering basing my attempt on: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Simulate_virtual_disk_with_MBR_using_linear_RAID. Basically, I would create a fake GPT partition table (actually, two, since they are mirro

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/12/14 06:45, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) >>> "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: >>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora wiki pages:

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/11/2014 02:47 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >i*know* it does this ... i've seen the above. but for the purposes > > of writing documentation and courseware, i want to be able to*point* > > at something and say, "see? this is how it works." and, as

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/11/2014 02:47 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i*know* it does this ... i've seen the above. but for the purposes of writing documentation and courseware, i want to be able to*point* at something and say, "see? this is how it works." and, as far as i can tell, neither the man page nor "yumdo

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/12/14 06:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i just want something i can point at that proves the point. > > Yeah, I just realized that and sent a second message. Not enough > coffee :-) no problem. i'm well aware that i sometimes descend into o

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/12/14 06:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i just want something i can point at that proves the point. Yeah, I just realized that and sent a second message. Not enough coffee :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) > >> "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > >> > >>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > >>> wi

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/12/14 05:23, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > > wiki pages: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > > > and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" do

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/12/14 06:27, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) >> "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: >> >>> currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora >>> wiki pages: >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Build

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/12/14 05:23, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > wiki pages: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the > user to explicitly enable the sour

building a new kernel, and firmware

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
last question about "building kernel" wiki page, i promise. here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel#Build_the_New_Kernel one reads: "To build with firmware included, do: rpmbuild -bb --with baseonly --with firmware --without debuginfo \ --target=`uname -m` kernel.spec "

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) > "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > > > > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > > wiki pages: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > > > and i'm fairly su

Re: # systemctl start nfs.service works -- # systemctl enable nfs.service doesn't [SOLVED AGAIN]

2014-02-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 10:28 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/10/14 09:55, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Setting up an nfs server on a laptop running Fedora-20, I get the > > following perplexing results: > > > > # systemctl start nfs.service > > # systemctl enable nfs.service > >

Re: "yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:23:37 -0500 (EST) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora > wiki pages: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel > > and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the > use

Re: best recipe for building a new kernel on fedora 20?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 10.02.2014, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > uh, no. if that's all you specify, you get *way* more packages than > > just kernel and kernel-devel -- when my build worked earlier today, i > > think i counted 11. so that claim is a massive underestimate, but

"yumdownloader --source" doesn't need enabled source repos, does it?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
currently (against my better judgment) updating one of the fedora wiki pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel and i'm fairly sure that "yumdownloader --source" does *not* need the user to explicitly enable the source repos, yumdownloader will do that automatically, ye

Re: best recipe for building a new kernel on fedora 20?

2014-02-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2014, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > uh, no. if that's all you specify, you get *way* more packages than > just kernel and kernel-devel -- when my build worked earlier today, i > think i counted 11. so that claim is a massive underestimate, but i'll You can do it another way: 1. Take the .c

Re: building a driver/mod for a wireless nic

2014-02-11 Thread bruce
ok... here's a basic solution for the issue I faced with the dell/broadcom wireless card/nic. unning lspci -nn | grep AR8162 lspci -nn | grep RTL8188EE or lspci -n grep '01:00.0' 01:00.0 0200: 1969:1090 (rev 10) lspci -n grep '02:00.0' 02:00.0 0280: 10ec:8179 (rev 01) unning lspci -nn | grep

Re: NTP slowing down system shutdown, how to disable?

2014-02-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:10:00 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > One of the first things to learn is that "disable" doesn't mean "disable". > "mask" means "disable". (Something that's merely the former can be started > by other things.) So, you could try 'systemctl mask ntpd.service". Or you could use

Re: NTP slowing down system shutdown, how to disable?

2014-02-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:01:20 -0700 Eric Smith wrote: > I'm using a Dell T3500 running Fedora 20 x86_64. It's on a private > network not connected to the Internet, and with no NTP server. When I > shut down the machine, it pauses for more than a minute at > > A stop job is running for NTP cli

Re: NTP slowing down system shutdown, how to disable?

2014-02-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:01:20PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote: > I'm using a Dell T3500 running Fedora 20 x86_64. It's on a private network > not connected to the Internet, and with no NTP server. When I shut down the > machine, it pauses for more than a minute at > A stop job is running for NTP c

NTP slowing down system shutdown, how to disable?

2014-02-11 Thread Eric Smith
I'm using a Dell T3500 running Fedora 20 x86_64. It's on a private network not connected to the Internet, and with no NTP server. When I shut down the machine, it pauses for more than a minute at A stop job is running for NTP client/server. I don't think I enabled NTP when I installed it, but

Re: # systemctl start nfs.service works -- # systemctl enable nfs.service doesn't [NOW UNSOLVED]

2014-02-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Ohand FYI > > [egreshko@f20f ~]$ systemctl list-unit-files | grep nfs > proc-fs-nfsd.mount static > var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mountstatic > nfs-blkmap.service disabled > nfs

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread Max
On 02/11/2014 03:47 AM, soko.tica wrote: Meanwhile *https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf* * * *[root@box`**]#Xorg :1 -configure* *-bash: Xorg: command not found * You could try : X -configure in the shell. You have to be root and that would leave the file in the directory

Re: Recommendations for web-based photo album

2014-02-11 Thread Tim Evans
On 02/11/2014 12:47 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, I'm interested in setting up an online photo album. I've used Gallery in the past, but wondered if anyone had any other recommendations that would work well with Fedora? A PHP or perl based application would be best. http://coppermine-gallery.net/ --

Recommendations for web-based photo album

2014-02-11 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm interested in setting up an online photo album. I've used Gallery in the past, but wondered if anyone had any other recommendations that would work well with Fedora? A PHP or perl based application would be best. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@l

Re: how can i tell rpmbuild to *not* parallelize make during the build?

2014-02-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 02/10/2014 10:41 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2014, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > On 02/10/2014 12:09 PM, Robert P. J. Day issued this missive: > > > > > > > > grr ... following the instructions here: > > > > > > > > https:

Re: Case of the ghost CD

2014-02-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 February 2014, g sent: > you have either a 'fluke', a 'collector', or, a messed up 'bootleg'. Or someone uploading bad data to a music database... Some discs are recognised by some kind of unique code, other schemes try and figure out discs by number and length of tracks

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread poma
These reference packs are installed within the 'Basic Desktop', xorg-x11-apps xorg-x11-drv-ati xorg-x11-drv-evdev xorg-x11-drv-fbdev xorg-x11-drv-intel xorg-x11-drv-mga xorg-x11-drv-modesetting xorg-x11-drv-nouveau xorg-x11-drv-openchrome xorg-x11-drv-qxl xorg-x11-drv-synaptics xorg-x11-drv-vesa x

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Cristian Sava
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 12:21 +0100, poma wrote: > On 11.02.2014 11:01, Cristian Sava wrote: > > > > My servers & desktops were working ok with F19 and F20 (new or > > upgraded). > > After the recent updates on F20 NM does not start br0 on boot. > > I succeed to connect to the net after manually res

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:30:31 +0100 poma wrote: > On 11.02.2014 12:39, Paul Knox-Kennedy wrote: > > > Dumb question, I know, but how should I delete the bridge and recreate > > it? Nmcli? Gnome Network GUI? Brctl? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Networking/Bridging#Using_NetworkManager_.28per

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 09:15, soko.tica wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to enable x11 after a clean f20 minimal install. I do not want > graphical login managers, and want to run fluxbox as the window manager. I > have installed fluxbox and xorg-x11-server-Xdmx, but I am still stuck, > since I cannot find

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 12:39, Paul Knox-Kennedy wrote: > Dumb question, I know, but how should I delete the bridge and recreate > it? Nmcli? Gnome Network GUI? Brctl? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Networking/Bridging#Using_NetworkManager_.28permanent.29 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list

RE: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Paul Knox-Kennedy
> -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Bob Marcan > > After upgrading NM, same problems. > Delete br0 and define it again. Dumb question, I know, but how should I delete the bridge and recreate i

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2014 11:01, Cristian Sava wrote: > > My servers & desktops were working ok with F19 and F20 (new or > upgraded). > After the recent updates on F20 NM does not start br0 on boot. > I succeed to connect to the net after manually restarting NM. > Is it something wrong with my setup? Any advi

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:30:22 +0200 Cristian Sava wrote: > On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 12:25 +0200, Cristian Sava wrote: > On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:04 +, david v wrote: > > I am a new with fedora > > > > I think you put this line in config > > > > NM_CONTROLLED="yes" > No, tried that and still not

Re: NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Cristian Sava
On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 12:25 +0200, Cristian Sava wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:04 +, david v wrote: > I am a new with fedora > > I think you put this line in config > > NM_CONTROLLED="yes" No, tried that and still not working. My setup was working until the latest updates. C.S. -- user

NM bridging releted problem

2014-02-11 Thread Cristian Sava
My servers & desktops were working ok with F19 and F20 (new or upgraded). After the recent updates on F20 NM does not start br0 on boot. I succeed to connect to the net after manually restarting NM. Is it something wrong with my setup? Any advice? Is it a known bug? Do I need to fill a bug report?

Re: # systemctl start nfs.service works -- # systemctl enable nfs.service doesn't

2014-02-11 Thread poma
FTR https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1051052 $ rpm -q --changelog nfs-utils | grep nfs.target - Added Also=nfs.target to nfs-service file. (bz 1047972) - Make sure nfs.target is enabled (bz 970595) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970595 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:47:48 + "soko.tica" wrote: > Meanwhile > *https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf > * > > *[root@box`**]#Xorg :1 -configure* > *-bash: Xorg: command not found * > > http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.6

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:42:47 + "soko.tica" wrote: > More specifically, the file > etc/X11/xorg.conf. > has not been created during the install. Hasn't been used in a few releases iirc. I need to create it > manually, but there is no man page for it, and can't find any other > documentation

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread soko.tica
Meanwhile *https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf * *[root@box`**]#Xorg :1 -configure* *-bash: Xorg: command not found * On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:42 AM, soko.tica wrote: > More specifically, the file > etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread soko.tica
More specifically, the file etc/X11/xorg.conf. has not been created during the install. I need to create it manually, but there is no man page for it, and can't find any other documentation about it. It should be something like X- configure, but, I need some reliable fedora instructions for it. O

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread soko.tica
user$startfluxbox xmodmap: unable to open display ' ' Error: Couldn't connect to Xserver passing null display user$man xorg.conf No manual entry for xorg.conf === X server isn't configured and I have no clue where to find manual. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/11/14

Re: how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/11/14 16:15, soko.tica wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to enable x11 after a clean f20 minimal install. I do not want > graphical login managers, and want to run fluxbox as the window manager. I > have installed fluxbox and xorg-x11-server-Xdmx, but I am still stuck, since > I cannot find

how to enable xorg after minimal install (f20)?

2014-02-11 Thread soko.tica
Hello, I am trying to enable x11 after a clean f20 minimal install. I do not want graphical login managers, and want to run fluxbox as the window manager. I have installed fluxbox and xorg-x11-server-Xdmx, but I am still stuck, since I cannot find what the proper man. Can anyone point me to the a