Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-23 Thread William
Good evening, I followed Chris's suggestions. Thank-you, Chris. Here are relevant session portions: = bash.6[~]: grub2-install /dev/sda Installation finished. No error reported. bash.7[~]: - [edited /etc/default/grub. here are the new contents]

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-23 Thread Edward
On 1/23/2014 5:18 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/23/14 16:52, Edward M wrote: Thanks for the update and i'm glad the issue was solved. WelcomeOn further investigation it is actually a Chrome problem. Filed a report with "them". :-) Oh...turned out being a bug. I am re

Re: F18: new boot-up sequence, but old partitions still in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg !?!?!?

2014-01-23 Thread Stub
Let me comment on my own message: I believe I forgot to scrutinize the file /etc/default/grub. This file is 'automagically' created when fedora (grub2 ?) is installed the very first time, and its contents is based on the boot conditions at that time. When changing the boot conditions later, tho

Re: Fedup F17 --> F20

2014-01-23 Thread JUSTIN TAYLOR
Well, I wasn't able to find an F18 ISO (guess I wasn't asking Google nicely enough). So, I tried a yum upgrade to F18. Everything looked OK until I rebooted. It gets to the blue bar that moves across the bottom (it says Fedora 18). Then my PC reboots. Normally, I would boot into recovery

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 24.01.2014 00:10, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/23/2014 02:33 PM, poma wrote: >> Say whaaat? :) >> http://www.youtube.com/embed/Iok7KIjfTJQ?rel=0&border=0&autoplay=1 > > ...and here's the complete opening of the TV show: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So > Smoother one! http://www.yout

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/23/2014 03:06 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 01/23/2014 02:33 PM, poma wrote: On 23.01.2014 22:48, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/23/2014 01:14 PM, poma wrote: - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! My memory of the TV show, back in the early '50s when I was a rugrat is that it was "Hi-yo S

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 23/01/14 16:14, poma wrote: On 22.01.2014 18:55, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Now I have another problem where user "bobg" is not authorized! … If I correctly understood, - systemd-204-18.fc19 - No problemos! - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! plus, - Your way: multi-user.tar

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/23/2014 03:12 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: What, TV? It originated in the studios of WXYZ, Detroit, as I recall, and I had to make my own pictures! :-) If you'll check the Wikipedia article I referenced, you'll see that it started out on the radio and was on TV from 1949

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 23/01/14 16:48, Joe Zeff wrote: My memory of the TV show, back in the early '50s when I was a rugrat is that it was "Hi-yo Silver! Away!" And, Wikipedia agrees with me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger Not that it's important, but it's nice to find out that my memory of thin

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/23/2014 02:33 PM, poma wrote: Say whaaat? :) http://www.youtube.com/embed/Iok7KIjfTJQ?rel=0&border=0&autoplay=1 ...and here's the complete opening of the TV show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/23/2014 02:33 PM, poma wrote: On 23.01.2014 22:48, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/23/2014 01:14 PM, poma wrote: - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! My memory of the TV show, back in the early '50s when I was a rugrat is that it was "Hi-yo Silver! Away!" And, Wikipedia agrees with me: https://

Re: [OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 22:48, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/23/2014 01:14 PM, poma wrote: >> - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! > > My memory of the TV show, back in the early '50s when I was a rugrat is > that it was "Hi-yo Silver! Away!" And, Wikipedia agrees with me: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 22:14, poma wrote: > On 22.01.2014 18:55, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >> Now I have another problem where user "bobg" is not authorized! > … > > If I correctly understood, > - systemd-204-18.fc19 - No problemos! > - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! > plus, > - Your wa

[OT] was, Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/23/2014 01:14 PM, poma wrote: - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! My memory of the TV show, back in the early '50s when I was a rugrat is that it was "Hi-yo Silver! Away!" And, Wikipedia agrees with me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger Not that it's important, but it's

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 22.01.2014 18:55, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Now I have another problem where user "bobg" is not authorized! … If I correctly understood, - systemd-204-18.fc19 - No problemos! - systemd-208-9.fc20 - Hi-ho Silver! plus, - Your way: multi-user.target -> 'startxfce4' - Standard wa

Re: logwatch error messages

2014-01-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:17:25 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Did it, now to wait until the next logwatch run. > > you can force it to run with either running "sh /etc/cron.daily/0logwatch" or run-parts /etc/cron.daily (re-runs all the daily jobs in the that dir) ___ Regards, Frank www.fr

Re: yumBackend.py

2014-01-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:18:12 + Phil Dobbin wrote: > I take it running '# yum update' will still work? > As should yum-cron or yum-updatesd if installed. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: ARRGH: Anaconda F20: dumb Dumber DUMBEST!

2014-01-23 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 23/01/14 12:49 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:52 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: >Now this sort of blind stupidity really irritates the hell out of me. > >I was trying to do a stand-alone install of F20 on my laptop. The installer knows that I have an Intel 3965 wifi setup, but Net

Re: yumBackend.py

2014-01-23 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 23/01/14 18:49, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hi, all. I know this has been discussed on here before but I'm struggling to stop 'yumBackend.py' hogging the CPU & sending the load averages over 2.00. I've disabled it via the GUI in Software & reboot

Re: logwatch error messages

2014-01-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/23/2014 01:55 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/2014 01:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:38 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/2014 11:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am seeing

Re: [389-users] Upgraded 389-admin rpms and now I can't start dirsrv-admin

2014-01-23 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/23/2014 11:47 AM, Groten, Ryan wrote: Just upgraded my packages from: 389-ds-console-1.2.6-1.el5 389-console-1.1.7-1.el5 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.6-1.el5 389-admin-console-1.1.8-1.el5 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.8-1.el5 389-ds-base-1.2.9.9-1.el5 389-dsgw-1.1.7-2.el5 389-adminutil-1.1.1

Re: logwatch error messages

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/2014 01:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 01/23/2014 08:38 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/22/2014 11:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> I am seeing the following errors via "journal

Re: logwatch error messages

2014-01-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/23/2014 08:38 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/2014 11:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am seeing the following errors via "journalctl |grep logwatch": I had performed the following selinux policy: On 01/06/2014 08:14 AM, Daniel J Walsh w

Re: yumBackend.py

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > Hi, all. > > I know this has been discussed on here before but I'm struggling to stop > 'yumBackend.py' hogging the CPU & sending the load averages over 2.00. > > I've disabled it via the GUI in Software & rebooted but it's still running > e

Re: pdfnup on F20

2014-01-23 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:14:35 -0600 Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > ~$ pdfnup -nup 2x2 introduction.pdf > > If your e-mail is correct, I believe you are missing a hyphen. > > Try: pdfnup --nup 2x2 introduction.pdf Thanks very much! Duh!! Thanks again!! Ranjan > -- > u

yumBackend.py

2014-01-23 Thread Phil Dobbin
Hi, all. I know this has been discussed on here before but I'm struggling to stop 'yumBackend.py' hogging the CPU & sending the load averages over 2.00. I've disabled it via the GUI in Software & rebooted but it's still running every five minutes. Is there a way of dealing with this via the

Re: ARRGH: Anaconda F20: dumb Dumber DUMBEST!

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:52 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: > Now this sort of blind stupidity really irritates the hell out of me. > > I was trying to do a stand-alone install of F20 on my laptop. The installer > knows that I have an Intel 3965 wifi setup, but NetworkManager *would not > connect* no m

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Jon Ingason
2014-01-23 18:02, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA skrev: > On 23/01/14 11:44, Jon Ingason wrote: >> But what do you get if you do > > "Your Nikon memory card should be mounted to /run/media/bobg/disk (or > whatever it might be named)." > > I have no way of reading the memory card separate from

Re: EXFat file system

2014-01-23 Thread Ian Malone
On 23 January 2014 02:55, doug wrote: > On 01/22/2014 07:34 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> >> On 01/22/2014 06:29 PM, Jim wrote: >>> >>> I have a GoPro Camera that has formatted the SD Card to a ExFat file >>> system and Linux cannot read the sd card. >>> What do I have to do to be able to read card,

Re: pdfnup on F20

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Ranjan Maitra wrote: ~$ pdfnup -nup 2x2 introduction.pdf If your e-mail is correct, I believe you are missing a hyphen. Try: pdfnup --nup 2x2 introduction.pdf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 23/01/14 11:44, Jon Ingason wrote: But what do you get if you do ls -l /run/media/bobg/ You should see all media devices that are atached to the computer. Yes I do, in this case: [bobg@box10 ~]$ ls -l /run/media/bobg/ total 16 drwx--. 9 bobg bobg 16384 Dec 31 1969 LIVE and then: [

pdfnup on F20

2014-01-23 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I am a little confused that my pdfnup does not work on F20 (it worked just fine on F19). Here is my command: ~$ pdfnup -nup 2x2 introduction.pdf pdfjam: This is pdfjam version 2.08. pdfjam: Reading any site-wide or user-specific defaults... (none found) pdfjam ERRO

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Jon Ingason
2014-01-23 16:54, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA skrev: > On 23/01/14 10:09, Jon Ingason wrote: >> 2014-01-23 14:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA skrev: >>> I never switch users except perhaps in a terminal when su/root is >>> required. I tried unplugging the cable, waiting, etc. Initially

ARRGH: Anaconda F20: dumb Dumber DUMBEST!

2014-01-23 Thread R. G. Newbury
Now this sort of blind stupidity really irritates the hell out of me. I was trying to do a stand-alone install of F20 on my laptop. The installer knows that I have an Intel 3965 wifi setup, but NetworkManager *would not connect* no matter what I tried. So I continued, without network access.

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 23/01/14 10:09, Jon Ingason wrote: 2014-01-23 14:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA skrev: On 23/01/14 06:19, Tim wrote: Were you logged in as yourself when connecting your camera hardware (whether by cable, or putting a memory card in)? I've had similar problems, once or twice, when I'v

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:57:58 +0530 Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > Would be interesting to know about it, when you catch it. Please do keep > us informed. Apparently the systemd fungus has grown over pulseaudio in fedora 20 (I wonder when they'll change the name "linux" to "systemd" :-). To work around th

IPv6 breakage in NetworkManager

2014-01-23 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 01/22/2014 12:52 AM, From: Dan Irwin Seeing significant issues with IPv6. After some time, IPv6 completely seems to stop working. IPv4 is unaffected. Re-connecting to wifi seems to restore IPv6 connectivity. However, various things (ssh, firefox) stop working completely. Open ssh sessions

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Jon Ingason
2014-01-23 14:23, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA skrev: > On 23/01/14 06:19, Tim wrote: >> Were you logged in as yourself when connecting your camera hardware >> (whether by cable, or putting a memory card in)? >> >> I've had similar problems, once or twice, when I've switched users, and >> foun

Re: Gnucash vs. Kmymoney

2014-01-23 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Hi! I tried them both and I find Kmymoney simpler and smaller than Gnucash. But I really think that you should give both a try and see which one fits you better. Cheers, SYLVIA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: GNOME Shell and password prompts

2014-01-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 11:53 +0530, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > On 01/19/2014 04:58 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > What app is it now that prompts for passwords when Evolution decides it > > needs one reentered? > > > > I subscribe to a couple of gmail calendars that don't require passwords, > > yet I

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 08:20:22 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:20:03 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Is there some system service I may have disabled in my ignorance that needs to run in order to have sound? That must be it. If I run a live USB fedora 20 on the same machine, I

Re: logwatch error messages

2014-01-23 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/2014 11:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I am seeing the following errors via "journalctl |grep logwatch": > > Jan 22 03:37:14 lx120e.htt-consult.com setroubleshoot[11102]: dbus > avc(node=lx120e.htt-consult.com type=AVC msg=audit(1390390627

Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 14:16, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > Hold on. But I do see it on my Fedora 20 system. > > $ rpm -q biosdevname > biosdevname-0.5.0-2.fc20.x86_64 :) Both tools are doing it, only the 'udev' is the "bigmama[1]" tool. ;) poma [1] systemd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 14:10, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > Does that mean we cannot disable the feature by a kernel parameter any > more ? If you do, Kernel -> "Card Shuffler" -> Network Interface Names poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 01/23/2014 06:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:20:03 -0500 > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> Is there some system service I may have disabled >> in my ignorance that needs to run in order to >> have sound? > > That must be it. If I run a live USB fedora 20 on the > same machine, I ge

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 23/01/14 06:19, Tim wrote: Were you logged in as yourself when connecting your camera hardware (whether by cable, or putting a memory card in)? I've had similar problems, once or twice, when I've switched users, and found I couldn't read a card. It would appear that when the thingummy was pl

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/23/14 16:52, Edward M wrote: >Thanks for the update and i'm glad the issue was solved. WelcomeOn further investigation it is actually a Chrome problem. Filed a report with "them". :-) -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailin

Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-23 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 01/23/2014 06:40 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > On 01/23/2014 06:21 PM, poma wrote: >> On 23.01.2014 07:40, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >>> On 01/20/2014 10:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> … While I am here, I also wanted to know the answer to the question as to how the interfaces are decided in

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:20:03 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > Is there some system service I may have disabled > in my ignorance that needs to run in order to > have sound? That must be it. If I run a live USB fedora 20 on the same machine, I get sound. I saved off a list of everything I thought might

Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-23 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 01/23/2014 06:21 PM, poma wrote: > On 23.01.2014 07:40, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >> On 01/20/2014 10:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > … >>> While I am here, I also wanted to know the answer to the question as >>> to how the interfaces are decided in latter-day Fedoras: to elucidate, >>> it used to be

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 14:03, Temlakos wrote: > On 01/23/2014 07:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: … >> Out of curiosity, I checked out sound on my f20 work system >> today, and I see the same "dummy output" as the only >> choice in the gnome sound control. … > Does your hardware have a mute button? Sometimes F20 h

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Temlakos
On 01/23/2014 07:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I submitted this bug last night about no sound on my home system: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056833 Out of curiosity, I checked out sound on my f20 work system today, and I see the same "dummy output" as the only choice in the gnome s

Re: How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-23 Thread poma
On 23.01.2014 07:40, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > On 01/20/2014 10:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: … >> While I am here, I also wanted to know the answer to the question as >> to how the interfaces are decided in latter-day Fedoras: to elucidate, >> it used to be that eth0 and wlan0 and ppp0 were the interf

Re: Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/23/14 20:20, Tom Horsley wrote: > I submitted this bug last night about no sound on my home > system: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056833 > > Out of curiosity, I checked out sound on my f20 work system > today, and I see the same "dummy output" as the only > choice in the

Any sound at all in Fedora 20?

2014-01-23 Thread Tom Horsley
I submitted this bug last night about no sound on my home system: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056833 Out of curiosity, I checked out sound on my f20 work system today, and I see the same "dummy output" as the only choice in the gnome sound control. Does anyone have sound on thei

Re: gphoto2 only as root -

2014-01-23 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 22 January 2014, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA sent: > Now I have another problem where user "bobg" is not authorized! > > [bobg@box10 ~]$ gphoto2 --get-all-files > *** Error: No camera found. *** Were you logged in as yourself when connecting your camera hardware (wh

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-23 Thread Edward M
On 1/22/2014 10:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/22/14 07:33, Edward M wrote: sorry...the links did not solved the issue. Thanks for trying thanks...now i don't feel like a luser I did locate the issue It is one of the google-droid fonts causing the problem. erasing

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:20:36 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: > You'd need to modify the job that cron runs to send out the email when > it's complete. Yes, it's bitten me in the past. or go outside the box: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cronwrap The openSUSE rpm installed (here) without a hitch) __

Re: GNOME Shell and password prompts

2014-01-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno gio, 23/01/2014 alle 11.53 +0530, Rejy M Cyriac ha scritto: > On 01/19/2014 04:58 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > What app is it now that prompts for passwords when Evolution decides it > > needs one reentered? > > > > I subscribe to a couple of gmail calendars that don't require passwor

Re: qcad on remote fedora

2014-01-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:05:01 +0100 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > However, I finally installed qcad-3.4.5-linux-x86_32.run > ((http://www.ribbonsoft.com/en/qcad-downloads-trial which seems to be > GPL. If it is correct then it may come back to the distribution You haven't read this all the replies the

Re: GNOME Shell and password prompts

2014-01-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Also here, when Evolution require password, I can't access to other applications (es. KeePassX), and copy and paste password. No AltTab, no SuperKey, no application list. Only CTRL+ALT+F2 work, but this is another story. It's possible to disable this annoying features? Thanks Il giorno dom, 19/