Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent: > I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit > him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL! And we'll be cheering, too. On a whim, I once googled spammer beaten up, and read an amusing story about a ten minute fist f

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent: > Every mailing list I've joined I have a genuine interest in, or it's a > hobby of mine..(PremierGuitar.com.GuitarFetish.com...etc) I see no > real way that my email address got out TO the people who are using it > as a spam rece

Re: Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 30, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Sean Darcy wrote: > Kernel driver in use: tg3 > > > Not sure what to do with this. Reboot, at grub menu highlight the f20 kernel option, hit e to edit, find the linux command line, remove quiet rhgb, add rd.blacklist=tg3 and then F10 to boot. Chris Murphy

Re: Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:26:22 +, Bill Oliver wrote: Yeah, but poc was right in that if you have an image of the disk, you will know that there's an encrypted partition there, and you can get a court order to force the password. Since you have no fourth amamendment rights upon entry

Re: F19: how to name interface, persistently

2013-12-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Sean Darcy writes: On F19 how do I create persistent rules for ethernet interfaces? cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules # program, run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file. # # You can modify it, as

F19: how to name interface, persistently

2013-12-30 Thread Sean Darcy
On F19 how do I create persistent rules for ethernet interfaces? cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules # program, run by the persistent-net-generator.rules rules file. # # You can modify it, as long as you keep each

Re: Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log

2013-12-30 Thread Sean Darcy
On 12/30/2013 06:39 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 30, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Sean Darcy wrote: Sadly, it's a real kernel panic. Everything stops. I can't even reboot. It's a good thing there's a power cord! I'll copy what's on the screen, and submit it as a bug report. Maybe someone smarter th

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:50:46AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/31/13 10:14, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 08:06:37PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> I can see why the securities boundary issue means that a secure process > >> with > >> elevated privledges has to do the wri

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/13 10:50, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, you don't need sendmail. procmail will do just fine. I should mention one downside to using this approach. The mail which crond feeds to the mailer lacks a "Date:" header. So, if you use this, or potentially, another mailer such as mailx the messa

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Frank, On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 02:27:06AM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 01:46:07 +0100 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > I was under the same impression, hence my original thread: > > > > > > > > > > H

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/13 10:14, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 08:06:37PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> I can see why the securities boundary issue means that a secure process with >> elevated privledges has to do the writing to /var/mail, and mailx does not >> run as such. Thus we need a real

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:27:06 + Frank Murphy wrote: Apologies for self-reply. Figured a picture == 1000 these things: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-311213-024006.php Test-Email was: ls -l $HOME | mailx -s "The content of my home directory" frank -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 01:46:07 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: > I was under the same impression, hence my original thread: > > > > However I was told (by Frank) that it is possible using mailx. > >

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 08:06:37PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I can see why the securities boundary issue means that a secure process with > elevated privledges has to do the writing to /var/mail, and mailx does not > run as such. Thus we need a real MTA for this purpose and choose sendma

Re: Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, Robert Moskowitz wrote: One approach is to put your important stuff on an encrypted partition that is not auto mounted. Mount it only when needed, then unmount it. Yeah, but poc was right in that if you have an image of the disk, you will know that there's an encry

Re: New external harddrive and 106Mb unallocated - why

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
It was pointed out to me, off list, that I am generally targeting a country (China) for bad behaviour in this email. I apologize to people this affends. I have many colleagues in the IETF and IEEE from China and work closely with them. I am applying for a visa to attend the IEEE 802 meeting

Re: Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 08:03 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: In linux, is it possible to dictate two different actions upon login with different passwords? Short answer: no. Longer answer: in co

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 07:46 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Chris, On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:20:04PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz said: On 12/30/2013 01:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: If you want logwatch or have cron

Re: Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Bill Oliver
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: In linux, is it possible to dictate two different actions upon login with different passwords? Short answer: no. Longer answer: in computing almost anything is possible if you reall

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 07:43 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joe Zeff wrote: I'm really puzzled by the fact that none of the CentOS documentation I have looked at deals with what seems to me a rather important step in processing email. Why should it? There's nothing about the process that's specific to Cent

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Chris, On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:20:04PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz said: > > On 12/30/2013 01:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > >On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 > > >Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > >If you want logwatch or have cron jobs with output you wish,

Re: Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > > In linux, is it possible to dictate two different actions upon login with > different passwords? Short answer: no. Longer answer: in computing almost anything is possible if you really want to achieve it. Given that on Unix-style system

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joe Zeff wrote: >> I'm really puzzled by the fact that none of the CentOS documentation >> I have looked at deals with what seems to me a rather important step >> in processing email. > Why should it? There's nothing about the process that's specific to > CentOS. It is a part of the postfix/amav

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2013 04:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm really puzzled by the fact that none of the CentOS documentation I have looked at deals with what seems to me a rather important step in processing email. Why should it? There's nothing about the process that's specific to CentOS. -- users mail

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:00:40AM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > On Monday, December 30, 2013 03:38:46 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > I collect email on my server from various (remote) mail-servers. > > > This is then processed by postfix/amavis/clamav/spamassassin . > > > Spam is marked by a

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Monday, December 30, 2013 03:38:46 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I collect email on my server from various (remote) mail-servers. > > This is then processed by postfix/amavis/clamav/spamassassin . > > Spam is marked by addition of [SPAM] or ***Spam*** to the Subject header, > > as well as addi

Re: New external harddrive and 106Mb unallocated - why

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 30, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just got a Toshiba Canvio Desk 2TB external HD that my plans are to delete > the NTFS partition and put on an EXT4 one. > > Thing is the first 106MB are unallocated. Why? Can you post the results from 'parted -l /dev/sdX u s p' that mi

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Peter Skensved
> > No, I'm not trying to build a proper mail-server. > I collect email on my server from various (remote) mail-servers. > This is then processed by postfix/amavis/clamav/spamassassin . > Spam is marked by addition of [SPAM] or ***Spam*** to the Subject header, > as well as addition of several oth

Re: Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 30, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Sean Darcy wrote: > > Sadly, it's a real kernel panic. Everything stops. I can't even reboot. It's > a good thing there's a power cord! > > I'll copy what's on the screen, and submit it as a bug report. Maybe someone > smarter than I am can figure out what actuall

Different actions on different passwords?

2013-12-30 Thread Bill Oliver
I guess this is more of a general linux question than a fedora one, but since I use fedora... A friend of mine (a Windows afficionado, but not experienced with linux), and I were talking about recent examples where folk were required by the court to provide the password for their laptop. Tha

New external harddrive and 106Mb unallocated - why

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just got a Toshiba Canvio Desk 2TB external HD that my plans are to delete the NTFS partition and put on an EXT4 one. Thing is the first 106MB are unallocated. Why? If this was a Chinese product, I would be worried. I actually found a 'call home' USB stick once. One MIGHT think that Toshi

Re: Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log

2013-12-30 Thread Sean Darcy
On 12/30/2013 11:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 29, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Sean Darcy wrote: Updated to F19, kernel-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. On boot I get a kernel panic around [2.2]. The trace that's on the screen is about smp, timers, hpet. Can't read quickly enough to see what actually hap

Re: gnome, gnome-terminal desktop icon oddity

2013-12-30 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 12/29/2013 05:04 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz >> wrote: >>> >>> Oh, and I have lost to lock my desktop. >> >> super-l > > Got it thanks. > > I only started seeing reference to the 'super' key w

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread David
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote: > > On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote: >> Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent: >>> SPAM is very subjective. >>> I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas) >>> and then in February they're

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent: SPAM is very subjective. I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas) and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they just tag the message as SP

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 03:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Are you looking to build a mail server? I can give you the links I used, but I would recommend doing a mail server on Centos, not Fedora. Unless you are experimenting.. No, I'm not trying to build a proper mail-server. I c

Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle

2013-12-30 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/2013 3:08 PM, Brian Hanks wrote: > > After reading this, I checked my RPMFusion repos and found that > none are hard-coded. All are using the $releasever variable, and > all resolve to valid repos with the proper packages available. My > a

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Are you looking to build a mail server? I can give you the links I > used, but I would recommend doing a mail server on Centos, not Fedora. > Unless you are experimenting.. No, I'm not trying to build a proper mail-server. I collect email on my server from various (remo

Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle

2013-12-30 Thread Brian Hanks
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:47:30 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: So, there are no repos that offer updates for those three packages? Or is fedup unable to handle 3rd party repos? Other than that, please don't add my name to the mail's subject line in such a misleading/ambiguous way. Thank you. My

balsa is unthemed

2013-12-30 Thread Tony Nelson
The balsa email program draws unthemed on my system after upgrading to F20. Actually, the adwaita theme works, but none of the other themes do. I get no complaints from Gtk in .xsession-errors or journalctl when changing themes. Other programs are OK. Does anyone else see this or know what it i

My fedup upgrade from F18 to F20, or "When Sendmail won't start"

2013-12-30 Thread Tony Nelson
I have upgraded my system from F18 to F20 with fedup. Last year I upgraded from F16 to F18 with preupgrade and fedup, and it did not go well. This time was much better. The boot option to upgrade did not appear until I rebuilt the grub2 menu with: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg I s

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/31/13 02:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff going on in a desktop system, but services like logwatch a

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 02:20 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz said: On 12/30/2013 01:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: If you want logwatch or have cron jobs with output you wish, feel free to install a MTA and configure it.

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 03:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/31/13 02:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of > > system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff > > going on in a desktop system, but ser

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/13 02:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of > system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff > going on in a desktop system, but services like logwatch are very helpful to > maintain a healthy

Re: GnuCash

2013-12-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:50:16 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > FYI, GnuCash 2.6 is out. New features are listed here: > http://gnucash.org/2.6-release-tour.phtml See http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/gnucash -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1047200 Upstream release monitoring has reported it already.

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:00:50 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It isn't? Are you saying I was not clear in saying this is for local deliveries only, or are you saying that for some users, they may not want local delivery, as they don't read mail that is locally stored in /var/mail/user?

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz said: > On 12/30/2013 01:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 > >Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >If you want logwatch or have cron jobs with output you wish, feel free > >to install a MTA and configure it. > been there done that. Looking t

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:24:07 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So no MTA seems good IF we can configure mailx to do the local deliveries. I am kind of assuming that some changes to /etc/mail.rc might do part of the job. Probably some /bin/

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 01:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff going on in a desktop system, but service

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 13:30 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote: > I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit > him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Canter_and_Martha_Siegel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle

2013-12-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 08:51:01 -0600, Brian Hanks wrote: > The exact error message was "WARNING: problems were encountered during > transaction test: > broken dependencies > kmod-VirtualBox-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64-4.3.6-1.fc19.1.x86_64 requires > kernel-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64 > Continue with upgrad

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor
On 12/30/2013 12:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email addresses to the "Block" list... Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address? Just try it in Thun

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:24:07 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local > deliver of system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it > to the logs) stuff going on in a desktop system, but services like > logwatch are very helpful to mai

Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:24:07 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So no MTA seems good IF we can configure mailx to do the local deliveries. I am kind of assuming that some changes to /etc/mail.rc might do part of the job. Probably some /bin/sendmail script that maps sendmail arguments to

F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
An unintended consequence of no default MTA in f20 is no local deliver of system mail. It IS possible to just ignore (or leave it to the logs) stuff going on in a desktop system, but services like logwatch are very helpful to maintain a healthy system. Plus there is cron for regular tasks we

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 11:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: The document says "This page contains some longer HowTos for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, and does not seem to contai

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: >> The document says >> "This page contains some longer HowTos >> for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". >> Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, >> and does not seem to contain any links to the HowTos it refers

Re: Updated to 19; now kernel panic on boot. No log

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 29, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Sean Darcy wrote: > Updated to F19, kernel-3.12.5-200.fc19.x86_64. > > On boot I get a kernel panic around [2.2]. The trace that's on the screen is > about smp, timers, hpet. Can't read quickly enough to see what actually > happened. The kernel panic halts the st

Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 30, 2013, at 5:49 AM, Brian Hanks wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:47:07 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> You chose the fedup option in GRUB, but instead of getting text status of >> the progessing update, you got what appeared to be normal F19 boot? >> >> If /var is a separate parti

Re: failed to ..

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/30/2013 07:01 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I tried to set relabel by using system-config-selinux, >>> but nothing happens I have to keep selinux=0 to be able t

GnuCash

2013-12-30 Thread Steven Stern
FYI, GnuCash 2.6 is out. New features are listed here: http://gnucash.org/2.6-release-tour.phtml -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http:

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 30.12.2013 14:42, schrieb Timothy Murphy: The document says "This page contains some longer HowTos for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, and does not seem to contain any links to the HowTos it r

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 09:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/30/2013 08:42 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The document says "This page contains some longer HowTos for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, and do

Re: CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 08:42 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The document says "This page contains some longer HowTos for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, and does not seem to contain any links to the HowTos it

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/30/2013 08:50 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent: what is claws-mail? I do not see it installed by default. Just another mail client. And with a GUI, it seems from the screenshots I've found. For logs and such, mutt does the job. For my mai

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Robert Moskowitz sent: > what is claws-mail? I do not see it installed by default. Just another mail client. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automaticall

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent: > SPAM is very subjective. > I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas) > and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they > just tag the message as SPAM, and they argue it's SPAM be

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent: > this is all fascinating to me. I'm not using a mail server, just > trying to keep the size of my Inbox down, since the more spam it gets > the fatter it gets as wellI will be looking into all possibilities > regarding this

CentOS HowTos

2013-12-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
The document says "This page contains some longer HowTos for achieving different tasks on CentOS systems". Unfortunately, the document consists of a single page, and does not seem to contain any links to the HowTos it refers to. I'm looking in particular for the Ho

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/26/2013 03:49 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail.

Fwd: Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
OK. It was Mark, not Lars, that pointed out the logwatch problem. Is this a logwatch f20 bug to report, or simply 'if you know to install logwatch, you should know how to configure mail'. Of course we never had to configure mail in the past to use logwatch, but that is not logwatch maintaine

Re: Reverse E-Mail Blockage.....

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Dave Ihnat sent: > It sounds to me like you don't care for anti-spam solutions, and as > such have never really investigated the viable options. I can > understand your sentiments, but don't agree with your conclusions. > It's your choice, and I respect tha

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am joining this thread, as I tripped up on this once I got my old cron jobs transfered over to this install. I have the following| $ crontab -l SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin MAILTO=me # For details see man 4 crontabs # Example of job definition: # . minu

Re: F20 Installs Fail From Every Angle

2013-12-30 Thread Brian Hanks
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:47:07 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: You chose the fedup option in GRUB, but instead of getting text status of the progessing update, you got what appeared to be normal F19 boot? If /var is a separate partition/LV instead of on rootfs, this behavior occurs. Pleas

Re: failed to ..

2013-12-30 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Ralf Corsepius sent: > With all due respect, disabling SELinux *must not cause problems*. > > If it does, somebody is critically broken and needs to be fixed, > ASAP. Usually, yes. But you cannot expect SELinux relabelling to be done when you've disabled

Re: Fedora features enquire and requirements

2013-12-30 Thread Markku Kolkka
30.12.2013 9:11, Rahul Samaria kirjoitti: > Hi Team, > > > > As one of the best digital library software we want to implement Fedora > for setting up digital library for our organization. It appears you are interested in the Fedora Repository Project (http://www.fedora-commons.org/), however

Re: failed to ..

2013-12-30 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank for the recommendations. Do not worry, I just set enforcing=0 1 time to get the relabelling Then every thing is perfect. > > On 12/30/2013 07:01 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:15 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I tried to set relabel by using syst

Re: Fedora features enquire and requirements

2013-12-30 Thread Roger
Hi  Rahul Can thoroughly recommend Fedora or Ubuntu, we use both. If you choose Ubuntu then opt for the LTS (long term support) version. I don't know if this will help but for such a task as you describe below  but you may wish to look into using Drupal 7

Re: I'm trying to install intel xdk

2013-12-30 Thread chedi toueiti
You have simply to remove the broken link in the xdk folder using rm libudev.so.0 Then make a new one pointing to the lib version in your distribution (in my case) ln -s /usr/lib64/libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0 I got it running on the latest fedora 20 without any issue for now. On Dec 30, 2013 4:26 AM,

Re: System mail (Fedora 20)

2013-12-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:26:32 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:24:14PM +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:02:06 +0100 > > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > rpm -q exim sendmail postfix mailx > > package exim is not installed > > package sendmail is not installed >