Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:41:09PM +0530, AP wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > Check this how this list's archive: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html > > > You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: > As to why this guy among all the others here is posting broken > messages, I am betting g is correct. Man, you bet without any guarantee! There seems no logic. Asking questions and gaining from user's experiences counts, no more a troll

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Yes, that's very likely. Which browser is it? Opera and Firefox both. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

Re: Why some say "rpm elysium"

2013-11-28 Thread poma
g, this is the signature of your email account, right? -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- And the spammer/troller/whatever aka AP uses this email address: worldwithoutfen...@gmail.com Do you notice the coincidence? I wonder if this is a modern vers

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread g
*oops* let out one point. if you will note; Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:18:08 +0100 From: "Patrick Dupre" Message-ID: <20131127171808.119...@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: evince X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer is also a thread breaker. -- peace out. in a world with out fences,

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 06:22 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Ian Malone sent: It turns out if you use the 'edit subject' option gmail drops the references and in-reply-to (even if you don't actually edit the subject). I didn't even know how you would do that with gmail (nor do

Re: evince

2013-11-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/29/13 08:36, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, Ed Greshko sent: >> One interesting thing I discovered, at least on my F19 system, is if I >> highlight (copy) the Phi and then paste it into a terminal the >> resulting character is a delta. > That seriously points to it bein

Re: evince

2013-11-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, Ed Greshko sent: > One interesting thing I discovered, at least on my F19 system, is if I > highlight (copy) the Phi and then paste it into a terminal the > resulting character is a delta. That seriously points to it being a broken font, then. What's on th

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Ian Malone sent: > It turns out if you use the 'edit subject' option gmail drops the > references and in-reply-to (even if you don't actually edit the > subject). I didn't even know how you would do that with gmail (nor do I particularly care), though I ev

Re: Audio from Win 7 guest VM decided to work, all of a sudden

2013-11-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Sam Varshavchik writes: Ian Malone writes: On 28 November 2013 16:11, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After just installing a new Windows 7 guest, I was surprised to hear some > scratchy audio, from Windows, when it booted. > > I never had any luck getting any audio from guest VMs. I have a differen

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 02:54 PM, David wrote: <> Which is set to 'date', 'Ascending, and 'Threaded'. Basically the same settings that have worked for me since at least Thunderbird 2.0. my settings similar in that i use 'order received'. regardless of all the possible settings that i use, ap still bre

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 02:35 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: Without the proper headers, correct threading is impossible. My client approximates it. this is true. Your client is doing the same thing -- approximating threading. it may well be true and is why i asked david to post what settings he ha

Re: evince

2013-11-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/29/13 01:48, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > We do already, don't we? With the feedback from the various users of > Fedora 18, 19 and 20, where the Delta displays correctly, it seems to boil > down to a configuration issue. Mission objective would be to find out what > changes an installation to

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread David
On 11/28/2013 3:40 PM, g wrote: > > > On 11/28/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: > <<>> > >> The Threading is done by Thunderbird in the folder(s). >> >> Menu Bar > View > Threads > All and selected in the per folder >> settings as 'Thread" (enabled) > > 'thread' is understood, but there are more s

Re: Audio from Win 7 guest VM decided to work, all of a sudden

2013-11-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ian Malone writes: On 28 November 2013 16:11, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After just installing a new Windows 7 guest, I was surprised to hear some > scratchy audio, from Windows, when it booted. > > I never had any luck getting any audio from guest VMs. I have a different, > existing Windows 7 VM

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: <<>> The Threading is done by Thunderbird in the folder(s). Menu Bar > View > Threads > All and selected in the per folder settings as 'Thread" (enabled) 'thread' is understood, but there are more settings to select like i asked about, ie; View > S

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 11-27-13 23:15:12 David wrote: > You are searching for errors? Perhaps I said that incorrectly. AP's > messages, and those of everyone that I have seen that have replied > to his original post, thread correctly. For me. This is a function of the mail reader client. I use Kmail and this list is

Re: Default browser

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 01:09 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:59:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/27/2013 01:38 PM, Beartooth wrote: Could these things be case-sensitive?? Why not? Everything else in Linux is. Not everything; yum for instance sometimes ignores capitals. Anyway

Re: Audio from Win 7 guest VM decided to work, all of a sudden

2013-11-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 November 2013 16:11, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After just installing a new Windows 7 guest, I was surprised to hear some > scratchy audio, from Windows, when it booted. > > I never had any luck getting any audio from guest VMs. I have a different, > existing Windows 7 VM that's not producing

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread David
On 11/28/2013 12:55 PM, g wrote: > > > On 11/28/2013 10:00 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > <> > >> Check this how this list's archive: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html >> >> You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your >> postings start a

Re: Default browser

2013-11-28 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:59:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/27/2013 01:38 PM, Beartooth wrote: >> Could these things be case-sensitive?? > > Why not? Everything else in Linux is. Not everything; yum for instance sometimes ignores capitals. Anyway, I changed dillo to Dillo

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: > Give a look to this proposal: > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ Yeah I mentioned it about 23 emails back in this thread. The most useful aspect of that doc is the admission that there's a problem. As for

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 11:30 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:41:09 +0530, AP wrote: As a home user, I really don't know why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug? Yes, that's very likely. Which b

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 11:34 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:41:57 +, Ian Malone wrote: Just started reading emails and noticed AP's emails are scattered all over the place. Is there something wrong with fedora's email server that is scattering emails? No, it turns out to be

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread g
On 11/28/2013 10:00 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: <> Check this how this list's archive: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your postings start a new thread, i.e. replies of yours do not appear in the

Re: evince

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:44:59 +0100, poma wrote: > On 27.11.2013 18:38, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > The document shows up correctly for me, in both evince and okular. > > > > Can we finally agree on anything!? > LoL! We do already, don't we? With the feedback from the various users of Fedora 18, 1

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:41:57 +, Ian Malone wrote: > > Just started reading emails and noticed AP's emails are scattered all over > > the place. > > Is there something wrong with fedora's email server that is scattering > > emails? > > > > No, it turns out to be gmail. Replying using gmail's e

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:41:09 +0530, AP wrote: > As a home user, I really don't know > why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? > (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug? Yes, that's very likely. Which browser is it? -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Check this how this list's archive: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html > You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your postings start > a new thread, i.e. replies of yours do not app

Audio from Win 7 guest VM decided to work, all of a sudden

2013-11-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
After just installing a new Windows 7 guest, I was surprised to hear some scratchy audio, from Windows, when it booted. I never had any luck getting any audio from guest VMs. I have a different, existing Windows 7 VM that's not producing any audio, on a different laptop. So now that, appare

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/28/2013 04:32 PM, AP wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: No, AP's replies don't contain any "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" headers. I really don't know about it. Check this how this list's archive: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-Nov

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > Deliberate or not, it was at least interesting. If using a separate > client it can be quite easy, but that normally leaves a more apparent This mail really did the exact the same break of thread and appears in my Inbox as a separate mail, no

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Tim wrote: > And the headers are still missing. > What happens if you don't block scripting while you're doing this? > Enable it before you hit reply, type your reply, then send it. Scripting!! There is no additional add-on installed in Opera!! -- users mai

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM, poma wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg01470.html > This dude is obviously a spammer, and for you dgboles it seems to be a > rather enjoyable. > Good to know. So what? You can ask in different places to know the experiences and knowledge of

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > No, AP's replies don't contain any "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" > headers. I really don't know about it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: Why some say "spammer"

2013-11-28 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 28/11/13 14:04, poma wrote: Bee awesome.:! Bee? -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: htt

Re: Why some say "spammer"

2013-11-28 Thread poma
On 28.11.2013 06:37, David wrote: > You have been a little off lately. Missed your meds? > Where would we be without your brilliant comments. Naughty, naughty boy! Bee awesome.:! poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: sharing /boot among multible Linux distros

2013-11-28 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
Give a look to this proposal: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/BootLoaderSpec/ -- Juan Orti GPG Key: DEEBD08B - http://jorti.fedorapeople.org/pubkey.asc Blog: https://apuntesderoot.wordpress.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: UTF-8 enabled enscript? - looking for a way to print UTF-8 text from CLI

2013-11-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 17:32 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote: > UTF-8 enabled enscript - looking for a way to print UTF-8 text from CLI? Doesn't it just work? If not, install the 'paps' package and restart CUPS. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailin

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Edward M
On 11/28/2013 2:44 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: No, AP's replies don't contain any "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" headers. -- Oh, ok. Was starting to a get little worried thinking the problem could be on my end instead. Thanks Ian and Michael:-) -- "Banks lend by creating credit. Th

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 November 2013 09:29, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Roger sent: >> I haven't been following this discussion thread closely of late but >> would like to understand how and what emails, clients, headers, gmail >> and faults or not with browsers has to do with "Why some

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 02:27:46 -0800, Edward M wrote: > Just started reading emails and noticed AP's emails are scattered all > over the place. > Is there something wrong with fedora's email server that is scattering > emails? No, AP's replies don't contain any "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" hea

Re: is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 November 2013 10:27, Edward M wrote: > Just started reading emails and noticed AP's emails are scattered all over > the place. > Is there something wrong with fedora's email server that is scattering > emails? > No, it turns out to be gmail. Replying using gmail's edit-subject feature cause

is something wrong with email server?

2013-11-28 Thread Edward M
Just started reading emails and noticed AP's emails are scattered all over the place. Is there something wrong with fedora's email server that is scattering emails? -- "Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing." — Ralph M. Hawtrey, former Secretary of Trea

Re: VOB

2013-11-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Being on the test kernel - or, more likely, using a more stable one from > the list that is compiled - is probably the answer to the issue: how am I > to watch a VOB file? > > Linux 3.11.9-300.fc20.x86_64 #1

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2013, Roger sent: > I haven't been following this discussion thread closely of late but > would like to understand how and what emails, clients, headers, gmail > and faults or not with browsers has to do with "Why some say "rpm > hell". I seem to have missed a

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 27 November 2013, David sent: > As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has no > problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for me fall > in the proper place in the thread(s) on this list. > > So that means?? Maybe you 'Linux geeks' with y

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Yet, when I do that with gmail (reply to a message through the web >> interface), it works with proper headers. g: > that is interesting. > > you have not done so regarding this "Subject:". Because I have a bit more respect for the list than sending a mass of test emails through it when

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 November 2013 04:15, David wrote: > On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, g wrote: >> >> >> On 11/27/2013 08:02 PM, David wrote: >> <> >> >>> As I said... Me - The ordinary user that uses an Email Client has >>> no problems with what AP and Gmail is/are doing. His posts, for >>> me fall in the proper place