Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-24 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 11/22/2013 05:11 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 22 November 2013 05:55, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:23 AM, inode0 wrote: > >>> Users can care about the distribution and have opinions about how it >>> should be presented. And those creating the distribution should

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:10:33 -0800 Hugh Caley wrote: > I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't > interested in keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default > for Fedora he'd change his mind? Or someone else would take over? > > Hugh > Unless your a Developer you

qemu-system-x86 eat 400% CPU

2013-11-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
On Fedora 19/x86_64, Xeon 4cores/8threads, 8GB RAM I have in a VM installed windows 2000 (full qemu cmdline see below). What is weird, 'top' on host show that all 4 threads load CPU at 100% each. On guest are running only minimum processes and windows task manager show load 0-2%; virtual machine is

Re: How avoid unwanted systemd-journald?

2013-11-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:37:03 +0100 > Patrick Lists wrote: > >> >> I meant the transmission of the log to another log server. Not the >> log itself. Anyway, here is Lennart Poettering's rationale behind >> journald: >> > > One of the things you will see after a hard reset is

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread Tim
Tim: >> It doesn't require gmail to get messages threaded. Threading is done by >> the message headers, each message has its own message ID, each reply has >> another header saying which message ID it's in reply to, and there's >> another header listing all the message IDs that belong in the same

Re: Yum Update Issue

2013-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 12:23:47 -0700, Frank Tanner III wrote: > I have performed a FedUp upgrade from Fedora 18 to Fedora 19 and am now > running into the following issue: > > Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/bin/clpi_dump conflicts between > attempted installs of libbluray-0.4.0-1.fc19.i686 and

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Tim wrote: > To see messages in their properly threaded order, one needs to use a > mail client that isn't broken in that regard (Evolution, Thunderbird, > and many others work), and pick the option that threads messages in the > message list window. > I agree w

Re: mouse track-pad

2013-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you require a rather ignorant reply in order that I defend myself? I don't even know what that means. I simply pointed out something you appeared not to be aware of. poc -- users mailing list users@li

Yum Update Issue

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Tanner III
I have performed a FedUp upgrade from Fedora 18 to Fedora 19 and am now running into the following issue: Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/bin/clpi_dump conflicts between attempted installs of libbluray-0.4.0-1.fc19.i686 and libbluray-0.4.0-1.fc19.x86_64 The current package versions that are in

Re: OT- Getting Firefox GMail Old Compose (for a while) - Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 11/23/2013 09:13 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Fulko Hew > wrote: Can you post some instructions ? (for getting GMail usable again after "New Compose") Get UAControl from here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addo

rsync errors (selinux?)

2013-11-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
For several years I've been doing an rsync across-the-lan backup for home directories. All has worked well until recently (well, since the fedup to f20 last night). Now backups are failing with an inscrutable rsync error. While the errors mention selinux, I don't see any errors in either the se

Terminal signal handling

2013-11-24 Thread Peter Oliver
I've started having a couple of odd issues with terminals in the last week or so on my Fedora 19 desktop machine and I think they're probably related. My laptop, also running Fedora 19, appears to be unaffected. Sometimes, terminals are unresponsive to ^Z, and I'm unable to suspend a process

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 24, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> >>> On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary and look up

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread AP
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Beartooth wrote: > Say you want Opera on an old machine that you haven't used for > some time. You go to a browser it does have, but for some reason the > default opera.com offers isn't what you want. You find what you do want, > and opera.com asks whethe

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread AP
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Tim wrote: > It doesn't require gmail to get messages threaded. Threading is done by > the message headers, each message has its own message ID, each reply has > another header saying which message ID it's in reply to, and there's > another header listing all the

Display setting problem CORRECTION-

2013-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
CORRECTION: Fedora-19 I have a ViewSonic VX2035wm LCD Display monitor on this computer that is not recognized by Fedora-19. in order to get a reasonable display I have to run /usr/bin/xrandr -s 1680x1050 after I am logged in and the display [XFCE] is running. That works for me but it seems a b

Display setting problem -

2013-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I have a ViewSonic VX2035wm LCD Display monitor on this computer that is not recognized by Fedora-18. in order to get a reasonable display I have to run /usr/bin/xrandr -s 1680x1050 after I am logged in and the display [XFCE] is running. That works for me but it seems a bit clunky and after

update FC19

2013-11-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, TRying to update fedora 19, I get: --> Processing Dependency: /usr/bin/nxssh for package: qtnx-0.9-16.fc19.i686 --> Running transaction check ---> Package nx.i686 0:3.5.0-17.fc19 will be obsoleted ---> Package nx-libs.i686 0:3.5.0.21-3.fc19 will be obsoleting --> Processing Dependency: nx-l

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-24 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 23 November 2013, g sent: > i have a gmail account for other purposes that i pull in emails > from because some of them i want to reply to and save. > > also, i found that as only way to maintain threads. > > your postings thread and i am wondering you would post a new > "S

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary >>> and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford >>> Englis

Re: Writing English. Please explain how this is a Fedora topic? -No please don't!

2013-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 November 2013 02:35, Roger wrote: > Would the moderators please be kind enough to take this very tiresome off > topic -off list- so that discussion about Fedora is not circumvented by > trivia. > > Out of the thousands of lurkers and contributors, some of which are major > corporations, go

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 November 2013 00:21, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Rolf Turner wrote: > >> On 11/24/13 09:30, Robert Holtzman wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:29:19AM +1300, Rolf Turner wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> > > But wrong nevertheless. It conflates two quite distinct idea

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 10:18:59 +1300 Rolf Turner wrote: > The "p" is silent; as in phthisis. Or as in swimming. :-) > > cheers, > > Rolf Turner There are no result for Psigh in the Oxford English Dictionary, is you meant an exacerbation it would be "Sigh" -- Regards, Frank www.fran