Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.11.2013, AP wrote: > Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both > are equal Better/equal in precisely what? > ...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is only the kernel...? Because there are different distributions which all think that their own pa

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:23 AM, inode0 wrote: > > That really makes no sense. Neither part of it. The fact that someone > knows about options available has nothing to do with whether he/she > should care about what is the default in the distribution and users > who don't even know what the

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> >> Why shouldn't it matter to him? Who should it matter to? > > > I already indicated why it shouldn't matter to him because what he prefers > is already in the repository and he

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, inode0 wrote: > > Why shouldn't it matter to him? Who should it matter to? > I already indicated why it shouldn't matter to him because what he prefers is already in the repository and he can switch to it regardless of the defaults. Among users, it might matt

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: >> >> >> I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in >> keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change >> his mind? Or s

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 11/21/2013 05:10 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change his mind? Or someone else would take over? Hugh -- *Hugh Caley Software Developer, Rocket Aldon Roc

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: > > I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in > keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change > his mind? Or someone else would take over? > You know what you prefer and it is a

Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread Hugh Caley
I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change his mind? Or someone else would take over? Hugh -- *Hugh Caley Software Developer, Rocket Aldon Rocket Software* 6001 Shellmound St. Ste. 600

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages. Ok. > Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you mixed rpm packages from > different sources. You mean from third party sources. -- users mailing li

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 11/21/2013 10:29 AM, AP wrote: Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in some ways...? yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages. Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you

[389-users] Recommended Berkeley DB for compiling 389 DS 1.3.2.3 version

2013-11-21 Thread Balaji P
Hi All, I downloaded 389 directory server source code 1.3.2.3 from link (http://port389.org/sources/389-ds-base-1.3.2.3.tar.bz2) and try to compile in my CentOS release 4.9 (Final) environment. I noticed below error message and suspect with referring invalid Berkeley DB version. I am currentl

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd > install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install > that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cycles of this and > you know what "dependency

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Mihamina RKTMB
On 11/21/2013 06:41 PM, AP wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: What precisely are you asking for? Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both are equal...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is only the kernel...? Technically, -

[389-users] setup-ds-admin.pl errors

2013-11-21 Thread Alberto Viana
I'm trying to set up a new instance of 389 DS in my homologation enviroment: 389-ds-base-1.3.2.4 389-adminutil-1.1.18 389-admin-console-1.1.8 After I ran setup-ds-admin.pl, i'm getting the following errors: Are you ready to set up your servers? [yes]: Creating directory server . . . Could not im

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > What precisely are you asking for? Just wanted to know if rpm is better than apt or vice-versa or both are equal...or why did this bifurcation took place if the Linux is only the kernel...? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 20:59 +0530, AP wrote: > Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cy

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.11.2013, AP wrote: > Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". > Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in > some ways...? What precisely are you asking for? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Doug
On 11/21/2013 03:40 AM, Rafnews wrote: > KDE in failover mode You used this expression with reference to an old, slow computer. How do you run KDE in failover mode? (I'm not using Fedora--I have KDE on PCLinuxOS.) My pc is fast enough, but I'm curious, since I never saw that option anywhere. Or is

Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
Hello, Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in some ways...? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: [389-users] Recommended Berkeley DB for compiling 389 DS 1.3.2.3 version

2013-11-21 Thread Rich Megginson
On 11/21/2013 07:48 AM, Balaji P wrote: Hi All, I downloaded 389 directory server source code 1.3.2.3**from link (http://port389.org/sources/389-ds-base-1.3.2.3.tar.bz2) and try to compile in my CentOS release 4.9 (Final) environment. I noticed below error message and suspect with referring i

Re: [389-users] 389 directory server crash

2013-11-21 Thread Rich Megginson
On 11/21/2013 02:23 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: I disabled LDAP paging in sssd.conf and let the setup run for a while. No crashes since. It does worry me though, that some other application could crash the server by using result paging. I am worried too. Please file a ticket. On 18. 11. 2013

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Mihamina RKTMB wrote: > Technically, > - making rpms are easier than making debs. Oh, okay. > - apt is NOT the equivalent of rpm, but the equivalent of yum Okay, I must have used that. > - You forgot the package management of Gentoo, Arch and so on on your tro

Re: [389-users] setup-ds-admin.pl errors

2013-11-21 Thread Rich Megginson
On 11/21/2013 08:07 AM, Alberto Viana wrote: I'm trying to set up a new instance of 389 DS in my homologation enviroment: 389-ds-base-1.3.2.4 389-adminutil-1.1.18 389-admin-console-1.1.8 After I ran setup-ds-admin.pl , i'm getting the following errors: Are you read

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Rafnews
On 21.11.2013 17:39, Doug wrote: On 11/21/2013 03:40 AM, Rafnews wrote: KDE in failover mode You used this expression with reference to an old, slow computer. How do you run KDE in failover mode? (I'm not using Fedora--I have KDE on PCLinuxOS.) My pc is fast enough, but I'm curious, since I nev

Re: Why some say "rpm hell"

2013-11-21 Thread AP
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > Probably a reference to the very early days of RPM (pre-yum). You'd > install a package, then find some library was missing and go to install > that, which led to something else missing, etc. A few cycles of this and > you know what "dependenc

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 21 November 2013 18:39, Doug wrote: > On 11/21/2013 03:40 AM, Rafnews wrote: >> KDE in failover mode > > You used this expression with reference to an old, slow computer. > How do you run KDE in failover mode? (I'm not using Fedora--I > have KDE on PCLinuxOS.) My pc is fast enough, but I'm curi

Re: openssh-6.3p1-5.fc20 fails with "EC_KEY_new_by_curve_name failed"

2013-11-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 20 15:04, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Nov 11 20:44, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>On Nov 11 12:14, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>>Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Does anybody have an idea what the problem could be? > >>> > >>>Only ECC NIST Suite B curves were enabled in

Re: dkms failure on reboot - virtualbox

2013-11-21 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 21.11.2013 11:40, schrieb Klaus-Peter Schrage: Using VirtualBox-4.2 (VirtualBox-4.3-4.3.2_90405_fedora18-1.x86_64) without any problems after upgrade to kernel 3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_6. Sorry, it should read VirtualBox-4.2-4.2.18_88780_fedora18-1.x86_64! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: dkms failure on reboot - virtualbox

2013-11-21 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 17.11.2013 19:00, schrieb Sjoerd Mullender: On 2013-11-17 17:19, Steven Stern wrote: Booting after today's kernel update, I noticed that there was a dkms failure: Nov 17 10:08:10 sds-desk-2 vboxdrv[556]: Starting VirtualBox kernel modules [FA ILED] Nov 17 10:08:10 sds-desk-2 vboxdrv[556]: (m

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 11/21/2013 02:10 PM, Rafnews wrote: > On 21.11.2013 08:42, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 12:43 PM, Rafnews wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> i installed on a very old laptop Fedora 19. Firstly i must say that >>> fedora is my favorite OS especially for very old hardware as it works >>> everywhere.

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:40:02 +0100 Rafnews wrote: > i just need to find a player that can shutdown the computer once > movie is ended... > yum info xbmc https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XBMC -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Rafnews
On 21.11.2013 08:42, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 11/21/2013 12:43 PM, Rafnews wrote: Hi, i installed on a very old laptop Fedora 19. Firstly i must say that fedora is my favorite OS especially for very old hardware as it works everywhere. so this laptop is for my son to watch cartoons and other chi

Re: xfce, gnome and kde

2013-11-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:13:41 +0100 Rafnews wrote: > Hi, > > i installed on a very old laptop Fedora 19. Firstly Stick to the lightweights, wait till you run Xfce (my experience) on a 6\8 core with 32gb ram. The others will still be slow. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailin