Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 01 August 2013, Marko Vojinovic sent: > Speaking hypothetically (and playing the devil's advocate a bit), the > fact that the bugreports were not responded to doesn't mean that they > were not looked at or maybe reported upstream. It can happen that the > upstream devs alread

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
T.C. Hollingsworth writes: On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I thought that it was an RPM bug, but it's really a package bug, but it's > really really something that RPM should handle, but does not, so it should > really be an RPM bug. It's definitely an RPM bug, just

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I thought that it was an RPM bug, but it's really a package bug, but it's > really really something that RPM should handle, but does not, so it should > really be an RPM bug. It's definitely an RPM bug, just one that is really, really hard

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rahul Sundaram writes: Hi On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik  wrote: There is no real conflict. Something in RPM is FUbared. bugzilla # ?  Thanks This can't be an obscure bug, it was fairly obvious that everyone who upgrades is going to run into it. Didn't even bother t

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 08/01/2013 03:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's some kind of an RPM bug. I ran into this when upgrading from F18 to F19. The solution, on every box, was trivial. yum remove firefox, then yum install it. You'll be able to reinstall firefox just fine. And that's what I fin

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM, David wrote: > Are they still active 'in' Fedora 18 or fedora 19? If yes then reenter them. Please don't create new bugs just because old ones were closed; it makes things messier. If you open a new one every time a Fedora release goes EOL it's much harder to tell

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/02/13 06:54, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Yep I just got 3 closures of bugs reported in F17 that were looked at >> and subsequently fixed in F18 but not back ported. I know there will be >> several other when F18 reaches EOL since the next version of

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 04:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Atleast for me, I just noticed a few bug reports being closed that I had taken a look at earlier, decided that I will focus on other bugs since it was a low priority issue and the danger of introducing new problems were higher. Should I have respond

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's some kind of an RPM bug. I ran into this when upgrading from F18 to F19. The solution, on every box, was trivial. yum remove firefox, then yum install it. You'll be able to reinstall firefox just fine. And that's what I finally did. There i

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:55 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: If all else fails, I'd use "rpm -e firefox" and subsequently "yum install firefox". I know it's not the cleanest and most proper way to deal with it, but I believe that rpm would actually do what it's told to do. After that it would be up to yum to f

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > There is no real conflict. Something in RPM is FUbared. > bugzilla # ? Thanks Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Yep I just got 3 closures of bugs reported in F17 that were looked >> at and subsequently fixed in F18 but not back ported. I know there will be >> several other when F18 reaches EOL since

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 08/01/2013 03:11 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: You have two firefox packages installed. There are multiple ways of fixing this with or without yum. No, I don't. I never did. I had the fc17 version of firefox 22 and couldn't update to the f19 version of firefox 22 be

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Yep I just got 3 closures of bugs reported in F17 that were looked at and subsequently fixed in F18 but not back ported. I know there will be several other when F18 reaches EOL since the next version of LibreOffice fixed some and F18 will remain

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:30:25 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 03:14 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > (1) do "yum distro-sync full", > > (2) make sure that /etc/os-release says Fedora 19, and > > (3) check that repository definitions under/etc/yum.repos.d/ > > actually point to Fedora 19 repos?

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:25 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of bad manners, David is right that you should check if the bug is resolved in the later versions of Fedora before getting angry about being ignored. Actually, I've had a few that g

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/02/13 06:25, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 14:25:30 -0700 > Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/01/2013 02:07 PM, David wrote: >>> On 8/1/2013 4:31 PM, Tethys wrote: So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 came out and now they're being closed as F

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:14 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: (1) do "yum distro-sync full", (2) make sure that /etc/os-release says Fedora 19, and (3) check that repository definitions under/etc/yum.repos.d/ actually point to Fedora 19 repos? Asked and answered, several times. -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 03:11 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: You have two firefox packages installed. There are multiple ways of fixing this with or without yum. No, I don't. I never did. I had the fc17 version of firefox 22 and couldn't update to the f19 version of firefox 22 because of a file confl

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 14:25:30 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 02:07 PM, David wrote: > > On 8/1/2013 4:31 PM, Tethys wrote: > >> So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when > >> F17 came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once > >> again, several of them don

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:51:46 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > There's one package that I can't get upgraded, and it's driving me up > the wall because every time I run an update via yum or yumex, I have > to remember to exclude it: firefox. Here's the results of my latest > try: > > Transaction check er

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread inode0
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tethys wrote: > So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 > came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, > several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by > the package maintainer. I wonder why I

Re: Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 08/01/2013 03:51 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Transaction check error: > file /usr/lib/firefox/browser/defaults/preferences from install of > firefox-22.0-1.fc19.i686 conflicts with file from package > firefox-22.0-1.fc17.i686 You have two firefox packages installed. There are multiple ways of fixi

Re: Disable built-in WiFi card so that USB WiFi device gets used.

2013-08-01 Thread poma
Cut 'n' loose :) This is an embedded device, lspci: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01) Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce - filename: /lib/modules/$(uname-r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi/ rtl8192ce/rtl8192ce.ko - rpm: kernel - firmware:

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 01/08/13 14:42, Reindl Harald wrote: * insert the iso-image in the virtual CD drive * select to boot from CD in the *virtual BIOS* nobody burns iso images to a physical media for use them in any VM google: "virtualbox CD iso image" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oobxm02UrBE Ok, that was wh

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 02:07 PM, David wrote: On 8/1/2013 4:31 PM, Tethys wrote: So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by the package mainta

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread David
On 8/1/2013 4:31 PM, Tethys wrote: > So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 > came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, > several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by > the package maintainer. I wonder why I bother some

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 21:35, schrieb Bill Oliver: On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 21:02, schrieb Bill Oliver: One more note. As I've mentioned before, I do a full wipe and installation periodically on my machines. This can be a has

Is there a way to force an update/upgrade in yum?

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
There's one package that I can't get upgraded, and it's driving me up the wall because every time I run an update via yum or yumex, I have to remember to exclude it: firefox. Here's the results of my latest try: Transaction check error: file /usr/lib/firefox/browser/defaults/preferences from

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 01:31 PM, Tethys wrote: So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by the package maintainer. I wonder why I bother sometim

Panasonic

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, On my laptop with fedora 19, I cannot easily transfer my pictures. The camera does not seem to be recognized. However, After a very long time I was able to mount it from /dev/sdb1 and copy my files. It is not not very convenient! Any idea? It works fine from another machine (fedora 18).

It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread Tethys
So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by the package maintainer. I wonder why I bother sometimes... Tet -- "Java is a DSL for takin

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.08.2013 21:35, schrieb Bill Oliver: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 01.08.2013 21:02, schrieb Bill Oliver: >>> One more note. As I've mentioned before, I do a full wipe and installation >>> periodically on my machines. This can >>> be a hassle if one is left re-installin

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.08.2013 21:02, schrieb Bill Oliver: > One more note. As I've mentioned before, I do a full wipe and installation > periodically on my machines. This can > be a hassle if one is left re-installing other virtual OSs as well. I have > found that, with VirtualBox, I can > simply back up the

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.08.2013 20:31, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni: > On 01/08/13 13:18, Joachim Backes wrote: >>> Ok, I give up, wont waste any more effort on that then but it really >>> diminishes the usefulness of VB! >>> >> Did you install the Vbox extension pack? It's needed for USB access, even in >> the OSE

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/01/2013 11:43 AM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty > worthless unless you have a supply of blanks, I don't have many on hand > presently. I have been trying to make the USB function work without much > success. > >

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 21:02, schrieb Bill Oliver: One more note. As I've mentioned before, I do a full wipe and installation periodically on my machines. This can be a hassle if one is left re-installing other virtual OSs as well. I have found that, with

Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 12:18 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: The colours the OP is refering to is not the coloured output of ls. That is controlled by the environment variable LS_COLORS. The OP has to make sure his PS1 variable does not have any ANSI colour escapes. If you are interested, take a look at my respon

Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:49:27AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/01/2013 06:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:07:07 -0400 > >Neal Becker wrote: > > > >>I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest > >>way to > >>turn it off for all users (especially r

Re: The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-08-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > Will do, but I'm not sure when I'll have the need just yet. No need to hurry. I could try myself at the cost of wasted media and the risc that my hardware and system differ too much from yours. Kernel 2.6, burner at USB, ... several reasons why i might be unable to reproduce. So it is bette

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Bill Oliver wrote: I can read and write to a flash drive without problems. It worked out of the box for me. I tried to post a screenshot, but it got held up in moderation. In the old versions of VirtualBox, USB support was in the "guest additions" package, as I rememb

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/08/13 12:54, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni: VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty worthless unless you have a supply of blanks, I don't have many on hand prese

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread David
On 8/1/2013 2:31 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 01/08/13 13:18, Joachim Backes wrote: >>> Ok, I give up, wont waste any more effort on that then but it really >>> diminishes the usefulness of VB! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> Did you install the Vbox extension pack? It's

Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/01/2013 06:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:07:07 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest way to turn it off for all users (especially root)? There is a whole slew of things in /etc/profile that turn on annoying e

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 01.08.2013 20:31, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA: I have the Fedora 19 DVD iso saved to my NFS. I can't seem to find any way to make it install from that either short of saving it to a DVD firs and don't know where to find answers to these questions. Perhaps I don't have the rig

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 01/08/13 13:18, Joachim Backes wrote: Ok, I give up, wont waste any more effort on that then but it really diminishes the usefulness of VB! Thanks, Bob Did you install the Vbox extension pack? It's needed for USB access, even in the OSE version! Joachim Backes No, I didn't know it e

Re: The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Richard Shaw wrote: > > cdrecord without was at 6X and cdrskin without at about 4X > > Source code and man page of cdrskin indicate that a burn > run on BD-R has a transfer chunk size of 32 KiB if not > - option stream_recording=on

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.08.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni: > > VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty worthless > unless you have a supply of blanks, I > don't have many on hand presently. I have been trying to make the USB > function work without much success. > > Googling su

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/01/2013 07:08 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/08/13 12:54, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni: VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty worthless unless you have a supply of blanks, I don't have many on hand pr

Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 01/08/13 12:54, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.08.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni: VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty worthless unless you have a supply of blanks, I don't have many on hand presently. I have been trying to make the USB function work without

Re: The state of blu-ray burning in linux is terrible

2013-08-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Shaw wrote: > cdrecord without was at 6X and cdrskin without at about 4X Source code and man page of cdrskin indicate that a burn run on BD-R has a transfer chunk size of 32 KiB if not - option stream_recording=on is given - or option dvd_obs=64k is given - or ./configure option --ena

VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-01 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
VirtualBox defaults to using the CDROM/DVD drive which is pretty worthless unless you have a supply of blanks, I don't have many on hand presently. I have been trying to make the USB function work without much success. Googling suggests group/user problems, I have bobg and root listed as vb

Re: VirtualBox wont run -

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:45 -0400, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > However, systemctl setup vboxdrv.service still does not run: > > [root@box10 bobg]# /sbin/service vboxdrv setup > Redirecting to /bin/systemctl setup vboxdrv.service > Unknown operation 'setup'. Virtual Box appare

Re: How to create launchers on panel in Gnome 3 Classic Mode?

2013-08-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/31/2013 08:57 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> >> I am not aware of the policy you are referring to. It sounds like a >> misunderstanding. Perhaps you can provide a reference? >> > > I don't know if it's an official policy or not, but

Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:07:07 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: > I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest way > to > turn it off for all users (especially root)? There is a whole slew of things in /etc/profile that turn on annoying environment variables which enable thing

Re: turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 09:07:07AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest way > to > turn it off for all users (especially root)? You have to set your PS1 in your ~/.bashrc such that there are no colour escapes. This is what I do:

turn off bash colored prompts for all users

2013-08-01 Thread Neal Becker
I suspect colored prompts are confusing emacs tramp. What's the easiest way to turn it off for all users (especially root)? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Co

Re: GUI unusable after upgrade from F 17 to F 19

2013-08-01 Thread Thomas Flaig
Hello, Am 31.07.2013 schrieb Joe Zeff: > Ever since, the GUI has been unusable even > after I cleaned up over 1,000 duplicate packages from the CLI. > There's a mouse pointer, but it doesn't move, and the keyboard is > ignored. Same problem here (on a clean Fedora 19 installation and also on Fedor