Re: Getting updates to Fedora 15

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 24.03.2013 00:03, Jim wrote: > I have a live CD for Fedora 15, can I still get the updates for Fedora 15. > > The Print drivers I have for My Samsung Color Laser CLX-3175FN just > won't work in Fedora 17 or 18 because of Glibc updated packages. > The printer worked great on Fedora 15. > > The

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 10:47 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: On 3-23-13 15:21:37 Joe Zeff wrote: [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano This is your problem. You're missing a full path and crontab(1) requires it. If so, why does this work: EDITOR=nano crontab -e -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-23-13 15:21:37 Joe Zeff wrote: > [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR > nano This is your problem. You're missing a full path and crontab(1) requires it. -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Fred Erickson
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:51:24 -0400 Jim wrote: > I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in > the price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ? > > Don't want any more Samsung printers they don't care about Linux > support. I have a HP LaserJet-CM1415f

Re: touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread Peter Gueckel
doug wrote: > Unless you are particularly fond of a touchpad I wanted to learn gestures, taps &c, since most laptops have them and most people seem to prefer them. > wouldn't you be happier with a mouse or a trackball? That’s what I have finally decided upon. > Maybe there's a wireless k/b wi

Re: Getting updates to Fedora 15

2013-03-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 19:03:04 -0400, Jim wrote: I have a live CD for Fedora 15, can I still get the updates for Fedora 15. If it was the original live image from the release, you can get updates from after the release, but for a lot of things they'll be out of date now. -- users mailin

Re: gnome frozen

2013-03-23 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 22 March 2013 15:05, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > In average, once a day my gnome session freezes. Only one option, > > open a text session and try to kill the gnome-session! > > > > Any idea how to debug this? > > > > Run top an

Re: Printer setup headache

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 20.03.2013 21:52, poma wrote: > On 20.03.2013 21:28, Jim wrote: > ... >> Okay I have compiled foo2zjs and got my Samsung printer CLX-3175FN to >> print in Black and White and I have ghostscript installed, now how do I >> get it to print in COLOR ? >> > > Grayscale? > http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/fo

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 24.03.2013 02:18, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... > I have used a lot of HP printers because they use Postscript and their > own graphics language which is also supported, and because I've had good > luck with their scanners working, and they seem pretty reliable, and HP > keeps the toner available for

Re: touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread doug
On 03/23/2013 09:52 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote: Peter Gueckel wrote: There is some suggestion that some have gotten it to work. I have been reading further, and I think the Linux usability is limited to scrolling in Firefox and general moving of the cursor on the screen. Just that for $70! It’s g

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 06:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: it's strange that you have so many years experience as you say but such basic things are always a long thread by not check basics I have many years of experience with computers in general, and over a decade with Linux, but I've never used it profess

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2013 02:37, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/23/2013 06:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> pfff - and why do you not start crond? >> >> systemctl enable crond.service >> systemctl start crond.service >> systemctl status crond.service > > As it happens, I was just running around the Fedora document

Re: touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread Peter Gueckel
Peter Gueckel wrote: > There is some suggestion that some have gotten it to work. I have been reading further, and I think the Linux usability is limited to scrolling in Firefox and general moving of the cursor on the screen. Just that for $70! It’s going back tomorrow. The Logitech K400 wirel

Re: Xsane scans only 8.5 x 11 inches of 8.5 x 14 inch documents

2013-03-23 Thread Jim
On 03/23/2013 09:31 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: When an 8.5 x 14 in document is put into my scanner, xsane scans only the top 8.4 x 14 in portion of it. How can I change this behavior? (It's not easy.) Simple scan scans the entire document, so the problem is not with the

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 06:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: pfff - and why do you not start crond? systemctl enable crond.service systemctl start crond.service systemctl status crond.service As it happens, I was just running around the Fedora documentation and found those lines. It's now active. Thanx any

Re: Xsane scans only 8.5 x 11 inches of 8.5 x 14 inch documents

2013-03-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: When an 8.5 x 14 in document is put into my scanner, xsane scans only the top 8.4 x 14 in portion of it. How can I change this behavior? (It's not easy.) Simple scan scans the entire document, so the problem is not with the scanner nor with the sane backend. Scanner: F

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: On 03/23/2013 02:07 PM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 17:17, Jim wrote: On 03/23/2013 01:24 AM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: ... I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. *assume* Unfortunately this is an accurate description. With CUPS, se

Re: touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread Peter Gueckel
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Looks to me like this gadget is designed for Windows 8, and, as such, is > likely to be using Win-8-specific mojo. There is some suggestion that some have gotten it to work. I created the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf, but nothing is happening. I restarte

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2013 02:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/23/2013 04:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and what says "ps aux | grep cron"? > > Neither cron nor anacron is listed. Somehow, I'm not surprised pfff - and why do you not start crond? systemctl enable crond.service systemctl start crond.service s

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: ... I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. *assume* Unfortunately this is an accurate description. With CUPS, selecting the right printer has always been risky, too many elements constantly changed, side by side with

Re: touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Peter Gueckel writes: I just plugged in my brand new Logitech Wireless T650 touchpad. The cursor moves, but I am unable to get any other response: no tapping, etc. I have the xorg synaptics driver and kcm_touchpad installed, but it is greyed out and there is no way for me to activate it. How

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 04:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and what says "ps aux | grep cron"? Neither cron nor anacron is listed. Somehow, I'm not surprised. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

touchpad

2013-03-23 Thread Peter Gueckel
I just plugged in my brand new Logitech Wireless T650 touchpad. The cursor moves, but I am unable to get any other response: no tapping, etc. I have the xorg synaptics driver and kcm_touchpad installed, but it is greyed out and there is no way for me to activate it. How do I do this? -- user

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2013 00:34, schrieb Joe Zeff: > Sorry, but I don't use sudo. Ever. In fact, when I did a clean install on > my laptop, I made sure it wasn't > included. If I need to be root, I know and understand how su works so just do it >> Start the cron process > > Better yet: > > EDITOR=nan

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 04:20 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet. You're trying to add ONE LINE to crontab. Just do it. Or Stop the cron process edit /var/spool/yourid (with your favorite editor as root via sudo) Sorry, but I don't use sudo. Ever. In fact, when

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/23/2013 06:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 04:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> Suck it up! >> > > FOAD > > Just because you like using an obsolete, antique editor that was > designed before CRTs were in use doesn't mean that everybody else has to > use it. Yes, I started out with punch

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2013 00:04, schrieb Mark Eggers: > On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:21:37 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 03/23/2013 02:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> egreshko@meimei ~]$ export EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano [egreshko@meimei ~]$ >>> crontab -e >> >> [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano >> >> And, if I just run

Re: Getting updates to Fedora 15

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.03.2013 00:03, schrieb Jim: > I have a live CD for Fedora 15, can I still get the updates for Fedora 15 Fedora 15 is dead since a long time Fedora 17 is the last supported release Fedora 17 EOL will be August 2013 so no you can not get updates nor should you use F15 on machines connected

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 04:06 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Suck it up! FOAD Just because you like using an obsolete, antique editor that was designed before CRTs were in use doesn't mean that everybody else has to use it. Yes, I started out with punched cards, but I've also moved on. Maybe it's time fo

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/23/2013 04:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> One of those things that can bite you in the butt is that the >> environment for /bin/sh might be different than than in /bin/bash, >> especially as invoked by cron. > > Somebody suggested adding something new

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:21:37 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 02:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> egreshko@meimei ~]$ export EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano [egreshko@meimei ~]$ >> crontab -e > > [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano > > And, if I just run nano from the command line, it works, because > /usr

Getting updates to Fedora 15

2013-03-23 Thread Jim
I have a live CD for Fedora 15, can I still get the updates for Fedora 15. The Print drivers I have for My Samsung Color Laser CLX-3175FN just won't work in Fedora 17 or 18 because of Glibc updated packages. The printer worked great on Fedora 15. The foo2qpdl driver will work for this printer

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 03:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: besides the fact that /var/log/cron has nothing to do with vi so do not use it - what is your problem? I wasn't writing about examining /var/log/cron, I was trying to modify my crontab with the editor that I want to use. -- users mailing list users

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2013 23:19, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/23/2013 02:57 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: >> What is showing in the /var/log/cron file? >> > Just that I began editing it. I don't know vi, I don't want to, and I've no > idea how to exit except for killing > the terminal, which I did. I say, "

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 02:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: egreshko@meimei ~]$ export EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano [egreshko@meimei ~]$ crontab -e [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano And, if I just run nano from the command line, it works, because /usr/bin is on my PATH. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 02:57 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: What is showing in the /var/log/cron file? Just that I began editing it. I don't know vi, I don't want to, and I've no idea how to exit except for killing the terminal, which I did. I say, "Fi on vi!" -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2013 23:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/23/2013 02:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> why do you not simply place your cronjobs in/etc/cron.d/? >> >> i maintain a lot of servers with tons of cronjobs running as >> different users and never in my life called the contab-command > > Because cron

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 02:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: why do you not simply place your cronjobs in/etc/cron.d/? i maintain a lot of servers with tons of cronjobs running as different users and never in my life called the contab-command Because crontab is specifically written for this, and I saw no reas

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
would you please strip your quotes especially footers and signatures a 7 KB message for a one-liner is ridiculus Am 23.03.2013 22:57, schrieb Michael D. Setzer II: > [stripped fullquote] > What is showing in the /var/log/cron file? > >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://adm

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/24/13 05:43, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> One of those things that can bite you in the butt is that the >> environment for /bin/sh might be different than than in /bin/bash, >> especially as invoked by cron. > > Somebody suggested adding something new to cr

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 23 Mar 2013 at 14:43, Joe Zeff wrote: Date sent: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 14:43:44 -0700 From: Joe Zeff To: Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: Problem with cron > On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > > One of th

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2013 22:43, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> One of those things that can bite you in the butt is that the >> environment for /bin/sh might be different than than in /bin/bash, >> especially as invoked by cron. > > Somebody suggested adding something ne

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: One of those things that can bite you in the butt is that the environment for /bin/sh might be different than than in /bin/bash, especially as invoked by cron. Somebody suggested adding something new to crontab and seeing if it works. I tried it. A

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread doug
On 03/23/2013 02:51 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/23/2013 02:07 PM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 17:17, Jim wrote: On 03/23/2013 01:24 AM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: ... I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. *assume* Unfortunately this is an accurate de

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 23.03.2013 19:51, Jim wrote: ... > Can Linux be run inside a Virtual OS inside Windows 7, > The two computers I'm having problems with have Window 7 installed on > them, BUT THE THOUGHT OF THAT JUST MAKES ME CRINGE. If the virtualizer on the *host* OS support such *guest*, why not. Heh, I thoug

Xsane scans only 8.5 x 11 inches of 8.5 x 14 inch documents

2013-03-23 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
When an 8.5 x 14 in document is put into my scanner, xsane scans only the top 8.4 x 14 in portion of it. How can I change this behavior? (It's not easy.) Simple scan scans the entire document, so the problem is not with the scanner nor with the sane backend. Scanner: FUJITSU ScanSnap S1300 Xsa

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 11:56 AM, Steven Stern wrote: One of those things that can bite you in the butt is that the environment for /bin/sh might be different than than in /bin/bash, especially as invoked by cron. It worked fine in F 16, and it works from a command line. I'm not saying you're wrong, b

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 11:36 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:39:00 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/23/2013 02:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Well, as I've asked: Do other cron jobs work for you if you install them in the same way? And it would be normal (default) behaviour for them to b

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/23/2013 12:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 08:58 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 03/22/2013 03:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> I have my computers registered with the Linux Counter, and my main >>> desktop machine is supposed to update its status once a week, using a >>> cron job: >>> >>> # a

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Jim
On 03/23/2013 02:07 PM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 17:17, Jim wrote: On 03/23/2013 01:24 AM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: ... I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. *assume* Unfortunately this is an accurate description. With CUPS, selecting the

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:39:00 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 02:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Well, as I've asked: Do other cron jobs work for you if you install them > > in the same way? And it would be normal (default) behaviour for them to > > be logged in /var/log/cron - grep joe /

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 23.03.2013 17:17, Jim wrote: > On 03/23/2013 01:24 AM, poma wrote: >> On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: >> ... >>> I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. >>> >> *assume* >> Unfortunately this is an accurate description. >> With CUPS, selecting the right printer has

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2013 18:43, schrieb Richard Vickery: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > Perchance you're not in crontab.allow? > > where is crontab.allow? I just went to locate the file and couldn't it simply does not exist updatedb and locate are your friend [root@srv-rh

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 08:58 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/22/2013 03:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I have my computers registered with the Linux Counter, and my main desktop machine is supposed to update its status once a week, using a cron job: # added by lico-update.sh version 0.3.14 58 11 * * 4 /home/joe/b

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Richard Vickery
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:03 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > > > > I have my computers registered with the Linux Counter, and my main > > desktop machine is supposed to update its status once a week, using a > > cron job: > > > > # added by lico-update.sh version 0.3.1

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/23/2013 02:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Well, as I've asked: Do other cron jobs work for you if you install them in the same way? And it would be normal (default) behaviour for them to be logged in /var/log/cron - grep joe /var/log/cron would tell. I don't have any other, so I can't tel

Re: hibernate with keystroke?

2013-03-23 Thread poma
On 23.03.2013 06:05, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Am 22.03.2013 21:32, schrieb poma: >> On 22.03.2013 13:00, Harald Hoyer wrote: >> ... >>> you must not resume from a raid array >>> >> >> Let me show you how country feels :) >> >> Version: 025-35.git20130211.fc18 [1] >> >> /etc/dracut.conf.d/dracut-custom

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Jim
On 03/23/2013 01:24 AM, poma wrote: On 23.03.2013 04:04, Fred Smith wrote: ... I'll assume that their other/newer products would work as well. *assume* Unfortunately this is an accurate description. With CUPS, selecting the right printer has always been risky, too many elements constantly chan

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/22/2013 03:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I have my computers registered with the Linux Counter, and my main > desktop machine is supposed to update its status once a week, using a > cron job: > > # added by lico-update.sh version 0.3.14 > 58 11 * * 4 /home/joe/bin/lico-update.sh -m > > The permi

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Temlakos wrote: > On 03/23/2013 02:42 AM, Tim wrote: >> >> Joe Zeff (How do you produce with a browser?): >>> >>> Do you expect authors, as an example, to do all their writing in a >>> browser? Do you expect lawyers to compose their briefs and court >>> documents

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 23.03.2013 07:13, schrieb Gilboa Davara: >> D. Take a second to consider the web-mail vs. locally installed client >> split 10 years ago and today. 10 years ago, a vast majority of the >> mail traffic was POP3 and IMAP, today the tide

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Temlakos
On 03/23/2013 02:42 AM, Tim wrote: Joe Zeff (How do you produce with a browser?): Do you expect authors, as an example, to do all their writing in a browser? Do you expect lawyers to compose their briefs and court documents in a browser? How about accountants? How about programmers, graphic a

Re: Getting rshd

2013-03-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 22:12 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.03.2013 22:06, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > > How do you get rshd to run? > > hopefully not at all > > the rsh protocol is not secure for network use, because it > sends unencrypted information over the network > > > How are the .r

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2013 07:13, schrieb Gilboa Davara: > D. Take a second to consider the web-mail vs. locally installed client > split 10 years ago and today. 10 years ago, a vast majority of the > mail traffic was POP3 and IMAP, today the tides have turned, and the > most of the mail traffic is either bus

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:12:02 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > As the included comment says, I'm not familiar with any lico-update.sh script (and have never used it for the LiCo project), so I could not guess what it does, especially not since it added an absolute path for the command to execute. Hence my

Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer

2013-03-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.03.2013, Jim wrote: > I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in the > price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ? HP Laserjet Pro 1606dn We have to of them at work, and they have been working hassle-free and reliably several years. -- users

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/22/2013 11:13 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >> >> Most people (both at home and at >> work) only use the computer to exchange text information (E.g. mails, >> documents, accounting information, fill forms, etc) and light >> multimedia files - in

Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/22/2013 11:13 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: Most people (both at home and at work) only use the computer to exchange text information (E.g. mails, documents, accounting information, fill forms, etc) and light multimedia files - in which case, the move toward web-based-only software is -well- und

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/22/2013 10:03 PM, David G. Miller wrote: Perchance you're not in crontab.allow? That's only relevant if the file exists, and it doesn't on my system. The file /etc/cron.deny does exist, but it's empty. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip