Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-11-13 21:11:50 Gary Artim wrote: > to summerize I have 2 machine linked by a single patch cable, one of If that is not a cross-over cable, that is your problem. Can you ping the router from othermachine? -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 3-12-13 14:23:17 zoom itman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: > > So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop > > So I have Fedora 17 installed on there now. That was quite painless. > > Moving to 18, can I just install fedora-release from 18 and do a yum > updat

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/12/13 12:29, Gary Artim wrote: > nope, I get back the defined route, using -n elims the long term pause. I'm > assuming the pause is a sign of it not working. maybe I'm looking in the > wrong place and should focus in the router machine? It doesn't pause since the -n doesn't do a dns looku

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Gary Artim
nope, I get back the defined route, using -n elims the long term pause. I'm assuming the pause is a sign of it not working. maybe I'm looking in the wrong place and should focus in the router machine? On Mar 11, 2013 9:22 PM, "Ed Greshko" wrote: > On 03/12/13 12:11, Gary Artim wrote: > > When I t

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread zoom itman
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: > So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop So I have Fedora 17 installed on there now. That was quite painless. Moving to 18, can I just install fedora-release from 18 and do a yum update or upgrade? Looking for suggestions from people w

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/12/13 12:11, Gary Artim wrote: > When I type route on the non router it hangs, then after some time > comes back with the default route to the router So, it "pauses" which is not really a "hang". If you use "route -n" does it pause? -- From now on, at least during winter time, Im going to

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Gary Artim
not sure what you're saying...I just have a default route defined on the machine I'd like routed. The router has all the iptables stuff. When I type route on the non router it hangs, then after some time comes back with the default route to the router and canNOT get beyond the subnet. To my knowled

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
> client hang on route command what the hell are you doing? the client does not need anything to know about routing your router is the standard-gateway of the clients and has to do anyhting with affeactes NAT/masquerading/routing because that is why it is called router Am 12.03.2013 04:20, schri

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Gary Artim
I tried postrouting/masquerade in iptables on the router and still the client hang on route command. Its like the client cant see the router. But ping works fine in both directions. If I try and ping a known address on the greater internet, nothing. So there is no route beyond the subnet of 192.168

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
you do NOT need this on the client and it is NOT enough if your machine works as NAT-router postrouting/masquerade is at least needed Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 19602 packets, 1625K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 80 7964 MASQUERADE

Re: kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64

2013-03-11 Thread ergodic
Tom and Reindl thanks for for you replies. I will hold until next kernel update and if the problem persist I will BZ it. In the interim I will try to debug the boot failure Best regards - Original Message - Am 11.03.2013 23:40, schrieb ergodic: > Before I file a Bugzilla, has anyone hav

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Gary Artim
thanks, I forgot to mention I do have this set on both the client and router, still doesnt work. something is fishie, I went home frustrated and used my 2 laptops, one running mint linux, wirelessly, with a ethernet port (as the router) and one running fedora 18 as the client and got it to route --

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:43:20 +1000 Dan Irwin wrote: > Now for the tough question. Should I just stick with F17, or use this > "fedup" to go to F18? A lot of folks seem to think "yum upgrade" is safer and more reliable than fedup. I used a completely different technique: Copied a fedora 18 virtua

Re: network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread zoom itman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Gary Artim wrote: > I have a problems using a patch cable and trying to route though > another machine This might help, on the machine doing the forwarding: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Then, set net.ipv4.ip_forward to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf so it per

network routing.

2013-03-11 Thread Gary Artim
I have a problems using a patch cable and trying to route though another machine. The client is a minimum installed machine and the router is just a simple dhcp desktop. Is there some packages that *dont* come with the minimum install that would keep you from getting a simple route. Tried everythin

Re: kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2013 23:40, schrieb ergodic: > Before I file a Bugzilla, has anyone have problems with > kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64? > It will not boot in my machine. Asus P5K Delux, Core2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, > 6GiB no it works fine here homeserver 3.8.1-201.fc18.x86_64 - HP Elite 8300 Intel(R) C

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Irwin
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dan Irwin wrote: > > The recovery partition should allow me to re-install windows, if I > wanted to. I don't want to. > So I re-installed Windows, which took about 5 minutes. Back to factory. Now I am installing Fedora 17 netinst iso, and so far I have: - booted

Re: XFce panel justification

2013-03-11 Thread Mike Wright
03/11/2013 02:45 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/11/2013 11:53 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 22:40:50 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/10/2013 05:34 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: With F18, all items in a panel, at least those that you place across the top or bottom of a screen,

Re: OK, what update broke things?

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:04:04 -0500 Anthony Messina wrote: > What is the output of aplay -L aplay -L didn't change. It still claims S/PDIF is card 0 device 1, it just doesn't make any sound. (I'm back to running the 3.7 kernel for now, so I can't get the precise output 3.8 gives). I did finally g

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Irwin
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >>> At what point does it tell you 'error checking storage configuration' and >>> what does fdisk -l on the disc show? >> >> This is on the "main" installer screen in F18. >> > > The 'hub' model means I'm going to have to ask at which point, beca

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Irwin
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000 > Dan Irwin wrote: > >> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would >> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies. > > Why? The only thing the dell tools can

Re: OK, what update broke things?

2013-03-11 Thread Anthony Messina
On Friday, March 08, 2013 08:05:27 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, ac3be, 384.0 kbit/25.00% (ratio: 48000->192000) > Selected audio codec: [hwac3] afm: hwac3 (AC3 through S/PDIF) > == > [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: conf.c

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 22:49, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000 > Dan Irwin wrote: > >> I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would >> install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies. > > Why? The only thing the dell tools can recover i

Re: kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:40:49 -0400 (EDT) ergodic wrote: > Before I file a Bugzilla, has anyone have problems with > kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64? It boots fine for me, but the S/PDIF optical output no longer works for me (a lot less serious than not booting :-). -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 22:36, Dan Irwin wrote: > I blew away the big windows partition, but I left the Dell system and > recovery partitions. Which equates to about 15 gig of space. > > I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would > install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff a

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:36:18 +1000 Dan Irwin wrote: > I imagine if I blew away those partitions too, then Fedora 18 would > install. But I do like keeping the Dell stuff around, for emergencies. Why? The only thing the dell tools can recover is windows, and you blew that away already. -- users

Re: XFce panel justification

2013-03-11 Thread Max Pyziur
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/11/2013 11:53 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 22:40:50 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/10/2013 05:34 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: With F18, all items in a panel, at least those that you place across the top or bottom of a screen,

kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64

2013-03-11 Thread ergodic
Before I file a Bugzilla, has anyone have problems with kernel-3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64? It will not boot in my machine. Asus P5K Delux, Core2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 6GiB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 20:37, Alan Evans wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> >> Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it. >> There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid >> many people having to do identical tedious set-ups

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Dan Irwin
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > To be clear, you've wiped all the partitions on the disc, but the > installer is refusing to allocate new ones? Not quite. I blew away the big windows partition, but I left the Dell system and recovery partitions. Which equates to about 15 g

USB Speaker works for root but not ordinary users

2013-03-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I have a USB speaker system that I'm trying to get running under Fedora-18. It works for root but not for ordinary users. How do I get it to work for an ordinary user? Add them user to some special group; if so, which one? I've appended some info that I've been able to find out about it. I

Re: XFce panel justification

2013-03-11 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/11/2013 11:53 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 22:40:50 -0500, > Steven Stern wrote: >> On 03/10/2013 05:34 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: >>> >>> With F18, all items in a panel, at least those that you place across the >>> top or bottom of a screen, seem to be left-justfied by

Re: F18 Installation problem

2013-03-11 Thread Vinny Onelli
> -- > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:15:46 +1100 > From: Roger > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: F18 Installation problem > Message-ID: <5133d9a2.6080...@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 03/04/20

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > > Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it. > There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid > many people having to do identical tedious set-ups. > Sensible defaults are fine. The problem is tha

Re: Grub2/Grub2 Themes Usage Issues

2013-03-11 Thread Stephen Morris
On 03/11/2013 11:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.03.2013 01:25, schrieb Stephen Morris: Just a further note. I have now upgraded my monitor from a 17" 1280x1024 screen to a 20" 1600x900 widescreen monitor and since changing the resolution in grub to 1600x900 the speed issues seem to have b

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/11/2013 10:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Why? I can partition, but I don't really want to make a hobby of it. There's a strong argument to be made for sensible defaults to avoid many people having to do identical tedious set-ups. Yes: sensible defaults, with a reasonable easy way to customize

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 17:34, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:32:08PM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: > > snip > >> Linux distros need to learn to not cater for novices. If you can't >> partition, you shouldn't be running Linux. > > I've been beating the drum about t

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/11/2013 10:34 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: I've been beating the drum about this for years. It's not just partitioning. The various OSs have been being dumbed down for some time, especially the DEs. I know people who still believe that Linux and Unix are simply job programs for gurus becau

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
There's always a way to get Linux to do what you need it to do: install F16upgrade to 17 then upgrade to 18?... Sent from Eddie's Cell Phone - Reply message - From: "Robert Holtzman" To: Subject: About that installer... Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 1:34 pm On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:32:08PM +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: snip > Linux distros need to learn to not cater for novices. If you can't > partition, you shouldn't be running Linux. I've been beating the drum about this for years. It's not just partitioning. The various OSs

Re: previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 16:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 11.03.2013 16:50, schrieb Tom Horsley: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:43:04 +0100 > >> How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the > >> list? > > > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/ > > does it really n

Re: XFce panel justification

2013-03-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 22:40:50 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/10/2013 05:34 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: With F18, all items in a panel, at least those that you place across the top or bottom of a screen, seem to be left-justfied by some sort of default. Is there a way to change this? Insert

Re: fedup @ System Upgrade - time to complete? - on different sources

2013-03-11 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 16:50 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote: > So, how do I recover the use of my machine. That, of course, depends on exactly what's wrong with it. I used fedup to upgrade five different machines (two laptops and three desktops). Only one of them was left in a totally hosed state, wher

Re: previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2013 16:50, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:43:04 +0100 >> How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the >> list? > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/ does it really need THREE TIMES the same answer? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP di

Re: previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:43:04 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the > list? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: f18-64: Video Resolution problem on a netbook ASUS 1225C-GRY015U

2013-03-11 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 11/03/2013 alle 14.41 +, Matthew Garrett ha scritto: > > Question: there is some way to resolve the high CPU usage of > gnome-shell > > and change the video resolution when projector is connect? > > No. The gma500 devices have no worthwhile free driver support. Thanks Matthew,

Re: previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:43:04 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the > list? > Hi Patrick, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2013 16:43, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the > list? https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+users+list+archive https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/ signature.asc

previous emails

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, How can I access to the previous mails that I submitted to the list? Thank -- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@kegtux.org Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère Université du Littor

Re: /var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 03/11/2013 01:28 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Quoting lun, 11 mar 2013 Reindl Harald : Am 11.03.2013 14:18, schrieb Patrick Dupre: I made a BIG mistake, I removed /var/lib. the machine is done How can I reinstall it? what do you imagine to "reinstall" no way - /var/lib contains as examp

Re: /var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Quoting lun, 11 mar 2013 Reindl Harald : Am 11.03.2013 14:18, schrieb Patrick Dupre: I made a BIG mistake, I removed /var/lib. the machine is done How can I reinstall it? what do you imagine to "reinstall" no way - /var/lib contains as example the complete RPM-database In the past it

Re: /var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2013 14:18, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > I made a BIG mistake, > I removed /var/lib. the machine is done > How can I reinstall it? what do you imagine to "reinstall" no way - /var/lib contains as example the complete RPM-database signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --

Re: /var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I made a BIG mistake, > I removed /var/lib. > > How can I reinstall it? I don't think there is any fool proof way but it may be technically possible... I'm thinking you would need, at a minimum, a list of all the packages you had

Re: /var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Tahir Hafiz
Hi Patrick, How did you remove that directory? I think if you removed it via the GUI then it should still be in the wastebasket. If you did rm -rf /var/lib/ then I am not sure you can bring it back! Kind regards, Tahir On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Patrick Dupre < patrick.du...@univ-littora

/var/lib

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I made a BIG mistake, I removed /var/lib. How can I reinstall it? -- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@kegtux.org Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère Université du Littoral-Côte d'

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 04:32, Dan Irwin wrote: > So I'm trying to get F18 onto my new Dell laptop (e6530). Not > surprisingly, it's not working. > > The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't > shrink partitions. > > I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my w

Re: nxclient

2013-03-11 Thread Frank Chiulli
Patrick, You need to copy: /etc/nxserver/client.id_dsa.key from the server to the client. Frank On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Patrick Dupre < patrick.du...@univ-littoral.fr> wrote: > Quoting lun, 11 mar 2013 Reindl Harald : > > >> >> Am 11.03.2013 11:57, schrieb Patrick Dupre: >> >>> HEllo,

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 09:51, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent: >> The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't >> shrink partitions. >> >> I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7 >> partition, and the installer still

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Max Pyziur
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent: The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't shrink partitions. I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7 partition, and the installer still doesn't work pr

Re: nxclient

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Quoting lun, 11 mar 2013 Reindl Harald : Am 11.03.2013 11:57, schrieb Patrick Dupre: HEllo, When I try to run a nx session locally (on the same machine as that I am in front of). I get: NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 14784 NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command NX> 285 Enabling skip of

Re: grub2

2013-03-11 Thread Georgios Petasis
Στις 11/3/2013 11:57 πμ, ο/η Patrick Dupre έγραψε: Hello, I am not supposed to modify manually the file /etc/grub2.cfg. However, how can I modify for example the title of the menuentry (cd Replacing Fedora by Fedora 18)? The file linux_10 is a bit difficult to understand! Should I change GRUB_AC

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I would go with CentOS then..less headaches.at least IMHO On Mar 11, 2013 12:59 AM, "Dan Irwin" wrote: > It might, if I had a Fedora 17 ISO or installer on my network. > > I am just downloading the netinst iso, in the hope I can get a working > OS on this laptop. > > I do have a CentO

Re: nxclient

2013-03-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.03.2013 11:57, schrieb Patrick Dupre: > HEllo, > > When I try to run a nx session locally (on the same machine as that I > am in front of). I get: > > NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 14784 > NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command > NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files > NX> 285 Se

nxclient

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
HEllo, When I try to run a nx session locally (on the same machine as that I am in front of). I get: NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 14784 NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files NX> 285 Setting the preferred NX options NX> 200 Connected to address: 19

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:32:08 +1000 Dan Irwin wrote: > I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7 > partition, and the installer still doesn't work properly! If you've already blown away windows, I'd suggest getting into the shell again and using dd to copy a few meg of /d

f18-64: Video Resolution problem on a netbook ASUS 1225C-GRY015U

2013-03-11 Thread Dario Lesca
Hi, I have buy this Asus netbook with Ubuntu pre-installed: ASUS 1225C-GRY015U http://www.monclick.it/schede/asus/1225C-GRY015U/1225c-gry015u.htm With a Video integrate VGA compatible controller Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) and driver gma500

grub2

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I am not supposed to modify manually the file /etc/grub2.cfg. However, how can I modify for example the title of the menuentry (cd Replacing Fedora by Fedora 18)? The file linux_10 is a bit difficult to understand! Should I change GRUB_ACTUAL_DEFAUL? Thank. --

Re: About that installer...

2013-03-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 March 2013, Dan Irwin sent: > The installer won't let me install. It won't find free space. It won't > shrink partitions. > > I even dropped to a shell, and used fdisk to blow away my windows 7 > partition, and the installer still doesn't work properly! I haven't tried