Re: Read AIFF metadata

2013-02-10 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 13:27 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > "it no worky" is a very poor problem description, unfortunately. :-/ Ya, sorry about that. What I meant to say was soundconverter wouldn't even load the AIFFs. That is, I could see the files if I changed the filter to "ALL" when looking

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bill Davidsen wrote: >> 1. Sleep problem. >> When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started >> from the f-menu or by closing the lid, >> about 60% of the time the screen starts flashing on and off >> each couple of seconds, and the machine has to be stopped >> by pressing the power button, a

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
Oops. My bad. I apologize for the quick reply. On a different mailinglist, that I am much more active on, "hijacking" a thread means moving to a different subject without changing the subject line -- often two or three subjects will be discussed in the same thread without anybody changing t

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/11/2013 09:37 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: > I don't think this is a "hijack" of the thread that I started. I asked for > help writing a script to randomly access one of multiple vpns. The > respondent asked why I wanted to randomly access multile vpns. I answered > him and told him why. > >

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
I don't think this is a "hijack" of the thread that I started. I asked for help writing a script to randomly access one of multiple vpns. The respondent asked why I wanted to randomly access multile vpns. I answered him and told him why. I what conceivable way is answering a question about

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/11/2013 08:34 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: > > Wtf indeed. BTW, the next time you post to this list please do not "Hijack Threads". If you don't know what that means You took a message written by Joe Zeff with the subject of "Re: LibreOffice version 4", hit reply, deleted the Subject and M

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:40:02AM +1100, Roger wrote: > > >There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice. > >It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to > >present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to > >have the same (=100% ident

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Mark LaPierre wrote: Use random number generator in your script that generates a random number from zero to the number of connections to choose from. You said that you know how to write script. Use a case statement, or similar, to select the appropriate connection to a

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, NetworkManager automatically gets me on the correct wi

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.02.2013 23:56, schrieb T.C. Hollingsworth: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, Network

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 10/02/2013 22:40, Roger wrote: There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice. It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to have the same (=100% identical) look it had when you devel

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/10/2013 05:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.02.2013 23:56, schrieb T.C. Hollingsworth: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, Network

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:40:02AM +1100, Roger wrote: > > > > There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice. > It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to > present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to > h

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 23:56, schrieb T.C. Hollingsworth: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: >> I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations >> for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, NetworkManager >> automatically gets me on the c

Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations > for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, NetworkManager > automatically gets me on the correct wireless net (if I've set the option), > but I ha

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 23:40, schrieb Roger: > >> There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice. >> It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to >> present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to >> have the same (=100% identical) look it had

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Roger
There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice. It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to have the same (=100% identical) look it had when you developed it. Although Libreoffice and M

Re: 3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread jonc
On 02/10/2013 05:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: livna is since years dead http://rpm.livna.org/ is alive and well and still hosts libdvdcss Rahul And nothing else. We learn something every day. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: 3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > livna is since years dead > http://rpm.livna.org/ is alive and well and still hosts libdvdcss Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: 3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread jonc
On 02/10/2013 04:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.02.2013 22:23, schrieb Aaron Konstam: 1. Notification of updates occurs automatically, but the old Software Update application is missing. Where is it? "yum update" is and was always there Updates are also available via the Software app. Se

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread doug
On 02/10/2013 06:08 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: Guys, this thread is just turning into trolling. If you don't like Libre/Open Office and you just have to use MS Office, go use Windows and quite trolling on a Linux mailing list. Or at the very least take the whining

Re: 3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread jonc
On 02/10/2013 04:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.02.2013 22:23, schrieb Aaron Konstam: 1. Notification of updates occurs automatically, but the old Software Update application is missing. Where is it? "yum update" is and was always there Updates are also available via the Software app. Se

Re: 3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 22:23, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > 1. Notification of updates occurs automatically, but the old Software > Update application is missing. Where is it? "yum update" is and was always there > 3. Where can I find a F18 livna repo so I can install a f18 version of > libdvdcss livna is s

3 questions about F18

2013-02-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
1. Notification of updates occurs automatically, but the old Software Update application is missing. Where is it? 2. messages like: fedmsg activated, appear at the bottom of my Gnome screen. What is their purpose and what program controls them? 3. Where can I find a F18 livna repo so I can install

FC18 - XFCE "uptime" panel item

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
The system monitor contains an uptime option, which I use on all machine in my local site. On fc16 it displays both date and time uptime, while on fc18 it shows only days up, and you have to hover the cursor to see the HH:MM data. Is there a config option to restore the previous behavior. -- B

Re: ERROR: installing '/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/True.*'

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.02.2013 04:03, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 02/08/2013 08:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: ami right that "FONT=True" in "/etc/vconsole.conf" which was also created due upgrade to F18 on all of my machines with this value is the cause for the following error and that this is s

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I wasn't aware that smolt had gone away. However, as I pointed out, syncing the system clock by the network is done (if at all) during > boot and before firstboot starts. That's never been true https://docs.fedorapro

How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?

2013-02-10 Thread Bill Oliver
Configuration: Toshiba Satellite L875D laptop, Fedora 18, KDE desktop I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, NetworkManager automatically gets me on the correct wireless net (if I've set the op

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-10 Thread Stevo Slavić
It starts working when I do: [root@laptop ~]# ifconfig wlan0 down [root@laptop ~]# rmmod iwl4965 [root@laptop ~]# modprobe iwl4965 [root@laptop ~]# ifconfig wlan0 up If then I do [root@laptop ~]# rfkill list 1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 2: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth So

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/2013 08:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Are there any logs on the access point that you could look at? Also, check /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log for errors. -- Don't be bullied by the judgmental grammar and spelling police. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 15:41, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 10.02.2013, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > >> Tell them what Linus told to nvidia, it usually works. > > Right, giving them a "f*ck you" will solve the problem immediately, > with no further need of a specific office version (and no need of > furth

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Tell them what Linus told to nvidia, it usually works. Right, giving them a "f*ck you" will solve the problem immediately, with no further need of a specific office version (and no need of further studying either) :-) -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-10 Thread Frédéric Bron
gimp now works again. Do not known what made this happen. Thanks for help. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guide

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 10.02.2013 12:10, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 10.02.2013, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> The best program for handling academic documents is LaTex. Any Mictosoft >> like product can't hold a candle to LaTex for this job. Of course, you >> would have to learn a new document producing system. The learning

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 02/10/2013 06:08 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: Guys, this thread is just turning into trolling. If you don't like Libre/Open Office and you just have to use MS Office, go use Windows and quite trolling on a Linux mailing list. Or at the very least take the whining

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 10/02/2013 12:16, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: said this: whar was exactly your point at all? if you want stable layouts DO NOT USE OFFICE PACKAGES for layouts and this is a known fact since at least 10 years Using an office package and delivering files in its for

boot menu (F17)

2013-02-10 Thread Catonano
Hello people, on a couple of macines with Fedora 17 a boot menu shows up, containing 4 issues and the system that will be booted will work ONLY if I choose the third issue (Fedora Desktop) In case I leave the selection on the default issue (Kernel something) the monitor will remain black as if th

Re: is there a way KDE kickoff Application launcher from closing

2013-02-10 Thread Edward M
On 2/8/2013 9:23 PM, doug wrote: On 02/08/2013 10:52 PM, Edward M wrote: Hello, Is there a way to keep the KDE's Kickoff Application launcher open, so it can let me select the apps I want to use then close it after i have selected those apps? It's not just Fedora. The latest versions of PC

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread nomnex
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:08:02 +0100 > Heinz Diehl wrote: > > When you have to > present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to > have the same (=100% identical) look it had when you developed > it. Although Libreoffice and Microsoft Office are format-compatible, > layouts a

Re: Read AIFF metadata

2013-02-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:01:09 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 18:06 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > I wonder what happens if you convert them using "soundconverter"? > > SoundConverter uses GStreamer as a backend, which afaik handles ID3 > > tags in AIFF files. > > I

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > said this: whar was exactly your point at all? > if you want stable layouts DO NOT USE OFFICE PACKAGES for > layouts and this is a known fact since at least 10 years Using an office package and delivering files in its format is mandatory, as I already explai

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Gordan Bobic
Your point is self-contradictory. The level of consistency you describe isn't preserved even between versions of the same software. If that level of consistency is what you need, don't upgrade to a new version of the distribution or new version of the software. 100% compatibility doesn't exist -

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 12:08, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > Although Libreoffice and Microsoft Office are format-compatible, > layouts and formattings often don't look the same. > > And this *is* a problem. A real one so what you even havce tis problem with MS office versus MS office and with a little luck ev

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > your argumentation is not valid > > you do not know what the 1% difference is > you do not know if it affects you in any way > but you are start whining? [] Ok. End of disussion for me. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Aaron Konstam wrote: > The best program for handling academic documents is LaTex. Any Mictosoft > like product can't hold a candle to LaTex for this job. Of course, you > would have to learn a new document producing system. The learning curve > is not easy but once it is learned yo

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 12:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most >> grown up people have to realize that this time libreoffice and openoffice >> are the same application > > I suspect you missed my point

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: > Guys, this thread is just turning into trolling. If you don't like > Libre/Open Office and you just have to use MS Office, go use Windows and > quite trolling on a Linux mailing list. Or at the very least take the > whining about the nuances of similarity to a

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most > grown up people have to realize that this time libreoffice and openoffice > are the same application I suspect you missed my point. I'm aware of that Libreoffice is a fork from Openoffi

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-10 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 February 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > Much of what made Windows and MS Office so popular was their > consistent "Look and Feel." Learn one, you were close to learning > all. While the reason is true (people like consistency), the actuality is that office was forever changing h