Re: is there a way KDE kickoff Application launcher from closing

2013-02-08 Thread doug
On 02/08/2013 10:52 PM, Edward M wrote: Hello, Is there a way to keep the KDE's Kickoff Application launcher open, so it can let me select the apps I want to use then close it after i have selected those apps? It's not just Fedora. The latest versions of PCLinuxOS also exhibit this behavio

is there a way KDE kickoff Application launcher from closing

2013-02-08 Thread Edward M
Hello, Is there a way to keep the KDE's Kickoff Application launcher open, so it can let me select the apps I want to use then close it after i have selected those apps? -- The Hegelian dialectic: A (thesis) against B (anti-thesis) equals C (synthesis). -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/08/2013 10:43 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:29 AM, doug > wrote: You'll most likely have to download it and install it yourself from an rpm or dev archive, since most of the devs of the Linux distros hate it Oh rea

Re: ERROR: installing '/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/True.*'

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 08:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > ami right that "FONT=True" in "/etc/vconsole.conf" which > was also created due upgrade to F18 on all of my machines > with this value is the cause for the following error and > that this is simply wrong? > _

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:09 +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: > > strace -o trace.lst gimp > > Below is the end of the trace (full log attached). Does it help? > > inotify_add_watch(8, > "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config", > IN_MODIFY|IN_ATTRIB|IN_CLOSE_WRITE|IN_MOVE

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/2013 05:53 AM, Stevo Slavić wrote: > Thanks for the tip, unfortunately it didn't help. I've tried previous kernel > as well, all 4 combinations of the kernel and iwl4965-firmware, and now also > latest kernel-3.7.6-201.fc18.x86_64. Hummm What is the output of "rfkill list" (You may

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:05 +0100, antonio wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on > 08/02/2013 23:02: > > On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 22:41 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: > >> Since yesterday I am experiencing problems in password management, most > >> stored pass

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Frédéric Bron
> strace -o trace.lst gimp Below is the end of the trace (full log attached). Does it help? inotify_add_watch(8, "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config", IN_MODIFY|IN_ATTRIB|IN_CLOSE_WRITE|IN_MOVED_FROM|IN_MOVED_TO|IN_CREATE|IN_DELETE|IN_DELETE_SELF|IN_MOVE_SELF|IN_UNMOUNT

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I wasn't aware that smolt had gone away. However, as I pointed out, syncing the system clock by the network is done (if at all) during > boot and before firstboot starts. That's never been true https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-08 Thread antonio
Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 08/02/2013 23:02: On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 22:41 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: Since yesterday I am experiencing problems in password management, most stored password are not recognized, and if if I digit password by hands they

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 22:41 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: > Since yesterday I am experiencing problems in password management, most > stored password are not recognized, and if if I digit password by hands > they are not recognized. > Any help (I cannot access to Amazon, etc, etc...) Has

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/08/2013 01:34 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Smolt doesn't exist in Fedora anymore and the reason for network is given in this thread itself. Network access is needed if you chose to enable network sync for your system clock I wasn't aware that smolt had gone away. However, as I pointed out

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-08 Thread Stevo Slavić
Thanks for the tip, unfortunately it didn't help. I've tried previous kernel as well, all 4 combinations of the kernel and iwl4965-firmware, and now also latest kernel-3.7.6-201.fc18.x86_64. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/08/2013 06:35 AM, Stevo Slavić wrote: > > Afte

F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-08 Thread antonio montagnani
Since yesterday I am experiencing problems in password management, most stored password are not recognized, and if if I digit password by hands they are not recognized. Any help (I cannot access to Amazon, etc, etc...) -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F18(Spherical Cow) on Acer 57

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > If you can confirm that, it needs to be reported. If the time is going to > be set from the network, it's done during boot, before firstboot runs. In > fact, unless it's sending a smolt profile back, I can't think of any reason > for firs

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/08/2013 12:43 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: My impression has always been the firstboot tries to talk to ntp no matter what is actually installed, or if that isn't it, it certainly tries to talk to the network even if you didn't configure the network during the install. If you can confirm that,

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:24:02 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: Interesting... I did have chrony installed and enabled so I wonder why firstboot stalled My impression has always been the firstboot tries to talk to ntp no matter what is actually installed, or if that isn't it, it

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, which I use for comparison. 1. Sleep problem. When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started from th

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:24:02 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: > Interesting... I did have chrony installed and enabled so I wonder why > firstboot stalled My impression has always been the firstboot tries to talk to ntp no matter what is actually installed, or if that isn't it, it certainly tries to

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote:" > Yes I have seen that but still do not understand if this should make > any difference. No. Not by default. Think of it as just an alias. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opt

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> be surprised. ntp also didn't get installed which caused firstboot to >> hang when trying to sync the time, and therefore didn't complete. I'm >> still getting strange hostname errors f

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: be surprised. ntp also didn't get installed which caused firstboot to > hang when trying to sync the time, and therefore didn't complete. I'm > still getting strange hostname errors from rpmbuild... > ntp daemon has been replaced by chrony

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 19:58 +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: > > i meant the complete OS and if this is also on > > teh latest uüdates it is not a "fresh install" > > by definition > > OK after fresh install, I have of course done "yum update" but not "upgrade" > > >> What's the difference between up

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> >> When I ssh into my machine from PuTTY I no longer get syntax >> highlighting in vi, nor is the position in the file remembered which >> was quite useful when going through build l

Re: because that i hate python

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ easy-karma.sh > Getting list of installed packages... > Getting list of packages in updates-testing... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/fedora-easy-karma", line 510, in > FedoraEasyKarma()

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > When I ssh into my machine from PuTTY I no longer get syntax > highlighting in vi, nor is the position in the file remembered which > was quite useful when going through build logs and spec files. > Make sure you have vim-enhanced package

Re: F18: What happened to vi and bash auto-complete?

2013-02-08 Thread fedora
as far as syntax highlighting is converned: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/turn-on-or-off-color-syntax-highlighting-in-vi-or-vim/ suomi On 2013-02-08 16:00, Richard Shaw wrote: My fedup from F17->18 was a disaster, and then my fresh install from the DVD iso on top of the failed upgrade was a disa

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Frédéric Bron
> i meant the complete OS and if this is also on > teh latest uüdates it is not a "fresh install" > by definition OK after fresh install, I have of course done "yum update" but not "upgrade" >> What's the difference between upgrade and update? > upgrade > Is the same as the update command with t

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:43:05PM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:29 AM, doug wrote: > > > You'll > > most likely have to download it and install it yourself from > > an rpm or dev archive, since most of the devs of the Linux > > distros hate it > > > > Oh really? an e

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.02.2013 19:12, schrieb Frédéric Bron: >>> I have tried "yum reinstall gimp" but same issue >> yum upgrade > > I have already the latest built: 2.8.2 i meant the complete OS and if this is also on teh latest uüdates it is not a "fresh install" by definition > What's the difference between

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Frédéric Bron
>> I have tried "yum reinstall gimp" but same issue > yum upgrade I have already the latest built: 2.8.2 What's the difference between upgrade and update? I always use update. Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admi

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.02.2013 18:56, schrieb Frédéric Bron: > on x86_64, HP Pavilion G6-2255sf. > what can I do? > I have tried "yum reinstall gimp" but same issue yum upgrade signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change su

fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-08 Thread Frédéric Bron
on x86_64, HP Pavilion G6-2255sf. what can I do? I have tried "yum reinstall gimp" but same issue. Thanks, Frédéric -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorapro

because that i hate python

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ easy-karma.sh Getting list of installed packages... Getting list of packages in updates-testing... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/fedora-easy-karma", line 510, in FedoraEasyKarma() File "/usr/bin/fedora-easy-karma", line 310, in __init__ testing_

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.02.2013 17:54, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >>> 4. OpenVPN has ceased to work, although correct certs are in place. >>> I haven't examined the reason for this, as the other problems >>> are already fatal. >> >> Use OpenVPN to 4 destinations daily. No problems. > > As I said, this problem could

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: >> 3. NM >> This is behaving in an incomprehensible way, >> with WiFi getting slower and slower after re-starting NM. >> Here is an example pinging my home server on each laptop. > > My Desktop system has 2 WiFi cards. One USB Ralink RT3070, and one PCI > RT2790. They are work

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andras Simon wrote: >> 1. Sleep problem. >> When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started >> from the f-menu or by closing the lid, >> about 60% of the time the screen starts flashing on and off >> each couple of seconds, and the machine has to be stopped >> by pressing the power button, an

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 11:44 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > no it isn´t Smartsuite (which was quite good, btw). why do you speak out of > ... ignorance? Sounds more like a difference of opinion than anything else. -- Don't be bullied by the judgmental grammar and spelling police. -- users mailing li

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Andras Simon
2013/2/8, Timothy Murphy : > I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, > and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. > > I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, > which I use for comparison. > > 1. Sleep problem. > When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that wa

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Tim wrote: > Ugh, is that the reincarnation of the Lotus suite? I can remember that > monstrosity from the Windows 98 era. > no it isn´t Smartsuite (which was quite good, btw). why do you speak out of ... ignorance? FC -- During times of Universal Deceit

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:29 AM, doug wrote: > You'll > most likely have to download it and install it yourself from > an rpm or dev archive, since most of the devs of the Linux > distros hate it > Oh really? an effort is underway to have Apache OpenOffice back into Fedora 19. So I say you are s

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 10:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Just, FWIW. > I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, > and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. > > I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, > which I use for comparison. > > 1. Sleep problem. I don't use

Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, which I use for comparison. 1. Sleep problem. When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started from the f-menu or by closing

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 08 February 2013, doug sent: > Perhaps you should wait for the next rev of Apache OpenOffice. > I understand it will contain some or all of the user-friendly > interface of Symphony, another of the clone-cousins. Ugh, is that the reincarnation of the Lotus suite? I can reme

Re: /etc/passwd- /etc/group-

2013-02-08 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 02/08/2013 03:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.02.2013 10:33, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac: >> However, the files with the similar names, but with '-' appended are >> backups created on change to the corresponding files, through user and >> group administration tools. So they are run-time crea

ERROR: installing '/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/True.*'

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
ami right that "FONT=True" in "/etc/vconsole.conf" which was also created due upgrade to F18 on all of my machines with this value is the cause for the following error and that this is simply wrong? __ dracut-install: ERROR: installing '/usr/lib/

NFS root

2013-02-08 Thread Gordan Bobic
Is there any reason why NFS root might not work in F18? A year or so ago, there was this discussion on a related list: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2011-December/002433.html I'm wondering of NFS root would work with F18. Has anyone tried it? Does the default kernel support it?

Re: /etc/passwd- /etc/group-

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.02.2013 10:33, schrieb Rejy M Cyriac: > However, the files with the similar names, but with '-' appended are > backups created on change to the corresponding files, through user and > group administration tools. So they are run-time created files, and are > not owned by any rpm package, and

Re: /etc/passwd- /etc/group-

2013-02-08 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 02/08/2013 02:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > are these fails are no longer needed artefacts in F18 or > where they always only created by system-config-users > and so untouched by yum-updates? > > /etc/passwd- > /etc/group- > /etc/gshadow- > /etc/shadow- The passwd, group, shadow, and gshadow f

/etc/passwd- /etc/group-

2013-02-08 Thread Reindl Harald
are these fails are no longer needed artefacts in F18 or where they always only created by system-config-users and so untouched by yum-updates? /etc/passwd- /etc/group- /etc/gshadow- /etc/shadow- ___ [root@rh:/etc]$ diff passwd passwd- 67d66 < polkitd:x:110:110:Use