Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Tom Horsley writes: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:45:29 -0800 > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> The ISP's that give you IPv6 addresses (Comcast for one) will also use >> dhcp to give you a whole 64-bit network of addresses via DHCP-PD. > > Yea, but unless the router you have comcast's cable modem > pl

Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-25 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/20/2013 07:34 PM, David Highley wrote: > If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in > detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little > information about how to do anything other than run firewall-cmd to add > or delete specific rules. > > This

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread David
On 1/25/2013 6:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:45:29 -0800 > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > >> The ISP's that give you IPv6 addresses (Comcast for one) will also use >> dhcp to give you a whole 64-bit network of addresses via DHCP-PD. > > Yea, but unless the router you have com

Re: R graphics in F18 (x86_64, Huge blocker, fixed in update-testing)

2013-01-25 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I am very pleased to say that the version available in updates-testing solves this problem: hopefully this info will help others before the time this is released.) Ranjan On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:50:22 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > So, has anyone tried this out in F18, on x86_64? > > sudo yum ins

Re: FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:26:24 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Well, it used to get a new name, something odd here, that localhost name just doen's want to go away. A fact which may or may not have anything to do with it: The local hostname info used to be stashed in /etc/sysconf

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht said: > The ISP's that give you IPv6 addresses (Comcast for one) will also use > dhcp to give you a whole 64-bit network of addresses via DHCP-PD. That's typically to a router though, not a host. > I'm curious how many of the people that are disabling thei

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:45:29 -0800 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > The ISP's that give you IPv6 addresses (Comcast for one) will also use > dhcp to give you a whole 64-bit network of addresses via DHCP-PD. Yea, but unless the router you have comcast's cable modem plugged into supports v6, it doesn

Re: R graphics in F18 (x86_64, Huge blocker for me)

2013-01-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Ranjan Maitra writes: > So, has anyone tried this out in F18, on x86_64? > sudo yum install R-core ... > graphics window shows up but no graphics get displayed for me. No > messages also, anywhere. I don't know about R-core, but X.org output for me took a big hit with the "upgrade" to f18. I'm

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Robert Moskowitz writes: > On 01/24/2013 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Tom Horsley said: >>> My system at work seems to take a long time to start >>> the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for >>> an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). >> It looks like

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

2013-01-25 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:34:59 +0100 Andras Simon wrote: > 2013/1/25, Ranjan Maitra : > > > Funny, I don't see anyone who has reported this problem on F18 in the > If by "this problem" you mean audio problem, then you might have noticed these: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/

Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-25 Thread William Brown
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 16:10 +0100, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > I'm not sure that firewalld is the right tool to do NAT. It's > something more like personal/desktop packet filter configuration tool > right now. Maybe in next 2 or 5 years it evolves but looking at > NetworkManager history and it's

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer wrote: >> LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twin names. In >> the Precise version... it was very much IMprecise. Just too many bugs >> now to be worth using. > > It often seems to me that they're too concerned about making

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM, James Freer wrote: > > I think that's taking it to extremes a bit really. This is the plans > for ubuntu... i don't know whetehr Fedora started 6 month release or > followed ubuntu - but ubuntu are considering giving up. > Fedora release plan has existed befor

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer wrote: LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twin names. In the Precise version... it was very much IMprecise. Just too many bugs now to be worth using. It often seems to me that they're too concerned about making their names cute for my ta

R graphics in F18 (x86_64, Huge blocker for me)

2013-01-25 Thread Ranjan Maitra
So, has anyone tried this out in F18, on x86_64? sudo yum install R-core (if not installed) $R > pairs(iris) graphics window shows up but no graphics get displayed for me. No messages also, anywhere. This problem is only in x86_64, with a fresh install, as well as with one upgraded via yum

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread James Freer
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:19:49 + > James Freer wrote: > >> but ubuntu are considering giving up. > > Yea, but they HAVE to change - they are almost out > of letters in the alphabet! LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twi

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:19:49 + James Freer wrote: > but ubuntu are considering giving up. Yea, but they HAVE to change - they are almost out of letters in the alphabet! :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

2013-01-25 Thread James Freer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Ondrej Majerech wrote: > On 24 January 2013 16:14, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley >> wrote: >> > >> > How about no schedule? When something worth releasing is done, declare >> > it is time for a new release. Could be 6

Re: FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 25.01.2013 19:50, schrieb Bill Davidsen: >>> When I boot my test machine, it goes to DHCP and gets a name and IP. The IP >>> is correctly assigned, but the name is >>> still localhost.localdomain. Now I could change that in hostname, but that

Re: FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:26:24 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Well, it used to get a new name, > something odd here, that localhost name just doen's want to go away. A fact which may or may not have anything to do with it: The local hostname info used to be stashed in /etc/sysconfig/network and now

Re: FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.01.2013 19:50, schrieb Bill Davidsen: When I boot my test machine, it goes to DHCP and gets a name and IP. The IP is correctly assigned, but the name is still localhost.localdomain. Now I could change that in hostname, but that means I have to do the job of dhcp by

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd? (chronyd SEalert)

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ok, so you are disabling ipv6. > > I wrote a blog on this in the past. > > http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/47118.html When I perceive this blog correctly, then this IPv6 problem still has not clean solution. But IMO (so

Re: FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 19:50, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > When I boot my test machine, it goes to DHCP and gets a name and IP. The IP > is correctly assigned, but the name is > still localhost.localdomain. Now I could change that in hostname, but that > means I have to do the job of dhcp by > hand, and tha

Re: RPM wildcard question

2013-01-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 10:53 -0200, Lailah wrote: > El jue, 24-01-2013 a las 01:14 -0500, Doug escribió: > > If you have a directory with a whole batch of RPMs, all part > > of some program suite, is it possible to use a wildcard to > > install all of the RPMs at once, like so: > >

FC18 - host name not set from DHCP?

2013-01-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
When I boot my test machine, it goes to DHCP and gets a name and IP. The IP is correctly assigned, but the name is still localhost.localdomain. Now I could change that in hostname, but that means I have to do the job of dhcp by hand, and that's not the way it should work. 1 - has anyone else s

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/2013 07:41 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> 'systemctl status chrony-wait.service' : >> chrony-wait.service - Wait for chrony to synchronize system clock >> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/chrony-wait.service; >> disabled) >> Active: inactive

Re: crash

2013-01-25 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/1/25 Richard Vickery > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Jorge Martínez López > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> >> 2013/1/25 Richard Vickery >> >>> Hi gang, >>> >>> I just suffered a Dracut crash. After entering the the command it said >>> to, I got a bunch of code. I rebooted simply because

Re: crash

2013-01-25 Thread Richard Vickery
Sorry Jorge, I know I ought to have added the error message; forgive my laziness in communicating my problem, but I didn't, after reboot, and still don't know the command to call to bring it up so as to paste it here. I am sure that there has to be one; do you think you could relay to me what this

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

2013-01-25 Thread Lailah
El jue, 24-01-2013 a las 12:34 +, Timothy Murphy escribió: > Incidentally, if I do accept "automatic partitioning", > will I later be given the opportunity to accept or cancel the operation? > > > -- > Timothy Murphy No after you click apply. Until this moment, you can change of mind.

Re: RPM wildcard question

2013-01-25 Thread Lailah
El jue, 24-01-2013 a las 01:14 -0500, Doug escribió: > If you have a directory with a whole batch of RPMs, all part > of some program suite, is it possible to use a wildcard to > install all of the RPMs at once, like so: > rpm -Uvh *.rpm > If not is there some other sim

Re: Fedora 18 bugs - Disappearing window while pasting a file in to a folder.

2013-01-25 Thread Lailah
El jue, 24-01-2013 a las 15:45 +0530, പ്രശോഭ് ജി.ശ്രീധര്‍ escribió: > I have a problem in my f18, > > Disappearing window while pasting a file in to a folder. > > > Prasobh > > > > > > On which desktop or environment? Gnome, KDE, LXDE, other? Cheers, Lailah signature.asc Descripti

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

2013-01-25 Thread Andras Simon
2013/1/25, Ranjan Maitra : > Funny, I don't see anyone who has reported this problem on F18 in the > archives. If by "this problem" you mean audio problem, then you might have noticed these: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/429233.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pi

Re: ntp

2013-01-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/24/2013 06:49 PM, Jan Litwiński issued this missive: Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:36:50 Sam Varshavchik pisze: Jan LitwiÅ„ski writes: Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:06:26 Sam Varshavchik pisze: Jan LitwiÅ„ski writes: Dnia piÄ…tek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: s

Re: Time/Date shell-thingy in F18

2013-01-25 Thread Andrew Gray
-Original Message- From: Lailah Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Time/Date shell-thingy in F18 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:02:25 -0200 El lun, 21-01-2013 a las 09:00 +0100, William Murray escribió: > Dear list, > (What d

Re: FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-25 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/1/25 Bill Davidsen > I'll see if a different subject, devoid of anything but the question, > brings a response. When I installed FC18 on a drive with FC17 and XP the > installer didn't offer an option to boot those OS as alternatives. > > Is this a bug or by design. I installed F18 in

FC18 install - doesn't offer other OS on the drive

2013-01-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
I'll see if a different subject, devoid of anything but the question, brings a response. When I installed FC18 on a drive with FC17 and XP the installer didn't offer an option to boot those OS as alternatives. Is this a bug or by design. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungl

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd? (chronyd SEalert)

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, so you are disabling ipv6. I wrote a blog on this in the past. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/47118.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARE

Re: f18: how to disable suspend when lid is closed without user logged in

2013-01-25 Thread Andras Simon
2013/1/23, Rex Dieter : > Dario Lesca wrote: > >> Il giorno dom, 20/01/2013 alle 22.16 -0600, Rex Dieter ha scritto: >>> I believe you can try to edit >>> /etc/systemd/logind.conf >>> and set >>> HandleLidSwitch=ignore >> >> Ok, this is what I'm looking for. >> >> Question: There is a GUI to do thi

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/24/2013 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Tom Horsley said: My system at work seems to take a long time to start the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). It looks like the F18 install writes out ifcfg-* files

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd? (chronyd SEalert)

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Daniel J Walsh wrote: ... Jan 23 07:12:41 pc setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/chronyd from module_request access on the system . For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l b7fea8ae-73b7-4588-aac7-36d4d5b69281 > No idea why this is starting up, but could you attach

Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-25 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 25.01.2013 14:46, William Brown wrote: > On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 23:59 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: >> On 01/20/2013 10:34 PM, David Highley wrote: >>> If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in >>> detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little

Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-25 Thread William Brown
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 23:59 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On 01/20/2013 10:34 PM, David Highley wrote: > > If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in > > detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little > > information about how to do anything othe

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/25/2013 06:41 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/25/2013 06:42 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >>> Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/25/2013 04:22 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package in

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/25/2013 07:41 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > 'systemctl status chrony-wait.service' : > chrony-wait.service - Wait for chrony to synchronize system clock > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/chrony-wait.service; > disabled) > Active: inactive (dead) > CGrou

Yikes! Keyboard screwed in NX session

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
Does anyone have any clues why my NX session would be doing all sorts of wacky mapping of my keyboard? I've just told my remote system to reboot into fedora 17 so I can get work done remotely (I hope). My arrow keys were set to some sort of asian character shift modes or something, other keys hav

Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 13:21, schrieb Tom Horsley: > smbd[20596]: WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'SHARE' for parameter 'security' > > This is unacceptably stupid. The guys with the tinfoil hats > who think that connecting a computer to AC power is insecure > have obviously taken over. > > It is now utt

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 13:00, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:50:09 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> if i want a serivice started i enable it, if not i disable it >> there is nothing in between > > Just remember in systemd that "disable" needs to be spelled "mask". > If you spell it "disa

rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
smbd[20596]: WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'SHARE' for parameter 'security' This is unacceptably stupid. The guys with the tinfoil hats who think that connecting a computer to AC power is insecure have obviously taken over. It is now utterly impossible to provide a windows share from a linux bo

Re: F18: Update problems ?

2013-01-25 Thread Aaron Gray
On 25 January 2013 05:20, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/2013 10:31 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > On 25 January 2013 00:51, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: > > > > On 01/25/2013 08:32 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > > Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ? > >

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:50:09 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > if i want a serivice started i enable it, if not i disable it > there is nothing in between Just remember in systemd that "disable" needs to be spelled "mask". If you spell it "disable" it has almost no effect :-). -- users mailing list u

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:22:39 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: > It looks like the F18 install writes out ifcfg-* files with > "DHCPV6C=yes", which should probably not be set by default, especially > since so few environments (even IPv6 environments) will have a IPv6 DHCP > server. Comment out that line o

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 12:41, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik: >> Check to see if you have the chrony-wait.service enabled. > > 'systemctl status chrony-wait.service' : > chrony-wait.service - Wait for chrony to synchronize system clock > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/chrony-wait.service;

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/2013 06:42 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 01/25/2013 04:22 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package installed, ntpd daemon is enabled and chronyd daemon is disabled. Despite of this, something c

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.01.2013 10:35, schrieb Frank Elsner: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:18:18 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 25.01.2013 01:51, schrieb Tom Horsley: >>> My system at work seems to take a long time to start >>> the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for >>> an IPv6 DHCP server to resp

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/25/2013 06:42 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/25/2013 04:22 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >>> At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package installed, ntpd daemon >>> is enabled and chronyd daemon is disabled. Despite of this, something >>> causes chronyd to start. H

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/2013 04:22 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package installed, ntpd daemon >> is enabled and chronyd daemon is disabled. Despite of this, something >> causes chronyd to start. How I can determine how and why it is? >> (Please, I do

Upgrade FC 16 to FC 17 problems

2013-01-25 Thread George R Goffe
Hi, I have the following message "The root for the previously installed system was not found". Due to space issues I have made a few links into a larger partition, these were /tmp and /var/lib/yum/plugins/local. I changed /tmp to be in the root file system and made the link to local a link ".

Re: disable IPv6?

2013-01-25 Thread Frank Elsner
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:18:18 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 25.01.2013 01:51, schrieb Tom Horsley: > > My system at work seems to take a long time to start > > the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for > > an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). > > > > Would putting

Re: crash

2013-01-25 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/1/25 Richard Vickery > Hi gang, > > I just suffered a Dracut crash. After entering the the command it said to, > I got a bunch of code. I rebooted simply because I don't know what I would > be looking for. Is it possible to help me? > > Richard, most people here need some error message

Re: F18: Update problems ?

2013-01-25 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/1/25 Aaron Gray > > > Thanks for the reply. I need to know what logs to supply. I am not used to > Gnome 3 or system or any of the new fangled things since old Fedora 14. Its > all a bit new to me. > > I would look at /var/log/messages and at ~/.xsession-errors Greetings, -- Jorge Ma

Re: how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/25/2013 04:22 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package installed, ntpd daemon > is enabled and chronyd daemon is disabled. Despite of this, something > causes chronyd to start. How I can determine how and why it is? > (Please, I do not want hints as maskin

how uncover what and why start chronyd?

2013-01-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
At F17 i386 I have both ntp and chrony package installed, ntpd daemon is enabled and chronyd daemon is disabled. Despite of this, something causes chronyd to start. How I can determine how and why it is? (Please, I do not want hints as masking chronyd/uninstalling chrony) Thanks, Franta Hanzlik --

Yum, Git, Plugin

2013-01-25 Thread Bry8 Star
Hi, is there a way to download/obtain specific GIT repo based src+binary files, via using yumdownloader / YUM cli commands ? can a yum PLUGIN achieve such functionality ? Thanks, -- Bright Star. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: ntp

2013-01-25 Thread jdow
On 2013/01/24 15:46, Jan Litwiński wrote: I have proglem with ntp service, I did: systemctl enable ntpd.service systemctl start ntpd.service but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I created rc.local and add to it systemctl start ntpd.service and it works. I think ntp