Re: php and mysqli

2012-10-03 Thread Gergely Buday
>> PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysqli_init() in >> /home/gbuday/public_html/init.php on line 3 Thanks for all the explanations. It was something of shooting one's foot: mysqld_safe was running and it was quite likely to be the source of the error. Starting regular mysqld solved th

Help out Ask Fedora

2012-10-03 Thread Matthew Miller
We just lowered the karma/reputation requirements for participating in Ask Fedora http://ask.fedoraproject.org/questions/, which means it's easier for new users to assign tags to questions, fix typos, and etc. If you're involved in Fedora, it'd be awesome if you could spend a few minutes each day l

Re: a friendly nudge to stay on topic

2012-10-03 Thread John Wendel
On 10/03/2012 07:23 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/03/2012 11:12 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Hey everyone. While issues about the motivations behind free and open source software are very relevant to Fedora, an extended left/right debate isn't. We're not going to solve that here. Let's

Re: a friendly nudge to stay on topic

2012-10-03 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/03/2012 11:12 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Hey everyone. While issues about the motivations behind free and open source software are very relevant to Fedora, an extended left/right debate isn't. We're not going to solve that here. Let's stipulate that reasonable people can disagree on the big

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/03/2012 08:39 AM, Roger wrote: On 03/10/12 19:18, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver? Thoughts? Junayeed Ahnaf Nirj

Screen stopped blanking

2012-10-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have a Dell Latitude E6410 with an nVidia graphics card, using the nouveau driver and the GNOME desktop on F17. Recently, the laptop screen stopped blanking when idle in X mode. I've modified the screen-blank settings, to no avail. If I switch to a virtual console, blanking works fine. It's p

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread jdow
On 2012/10/03 09:04, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/03/2012 11:55 AM, jdow wrote: On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote: How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for some time now all over the world, say in scien

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 10/03/2012 06:27 AM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0400 Mark LaPierre wrote: On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers (open source too). This is

Re: Did anybody successfully install the proprietary Nvidia driver on Macbook Pro(EFI boot)?

2012-10-03 Thread John Pilkington
When I sent my earlier posts on this I didn't check that there was a kmdl at dl.atrpms.net that matched the current f17 kernel. I see a new kmdl has arrived today for 3.5.4-2. That may help. http://dl.atrpms.net/f17-x86_64/atrpms/stable/nvidia-graphics302.17-kmdl-3.5.4-2.fc17-302.17-147.fc17.

Re: Samsung ML-1666 printer driver problem

2012-10-03 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/2012 12:12 PM, Jim wrote: > On 10/03/2012 01:26 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 10/02/2012 10:13 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> I'm attaching a link of a screenshot. This is the kind of problem I'm >>> facing: http://i.imgur.com

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Sergio
> > Hi Jack. If you aleady tried mentioned safe-mode variant, > also try to > look at about:crashes or local (cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/"Crash > Reports") > to find out what really happens. If no luck then > 1) close FF, check with ps -ef | grep firefox in terminal(it > may be > still running), then

Re: att-uverse new, can't access internet

2012-10-03 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 10:11 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > >It'd be easier to follow this if you didn't abbreviate words so much > >that I have to guess at what you're referring to. > Will try not to use abbreviations at all. > > >My next guess is that the 10 digit key is a pass key for authenticat

RE: att-uverse new, can't access internet

2012-10-03 Thread jackson byers
>It'd be easier to follow this if you didn't abbreviate words so much >that I have to guess at what you're referring to. Will try not to use abbreviations at all. >My next guess is that the 10 digit key is a pass key for authenticating >over an encrypted network, as many wireless links are, and sh

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Jack Craig
> > Hi Jack. If you aleady tried mentioned safe-mode variant, also try to > look at about:crashes or local (cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/"Crash Reports") > to find out what really happens. If no luck then > 1) close FF, check with ps -ef | grep firefox in terminal(it may be > still running), then run yum

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Alchemist
2012/10/3 Jack Craig : > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi wrote: >> >> Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like >> 'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal appears to me. But I'm far away >> from my computer at the moment. >> >> > Thx Ruben. > > second day in a row,

Re: Samsung ML-1666 printer driver problem

2012-10-03 Thread Jim
On 10/03/2012 01:26 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/02/2012 10:13 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: Hello, I'm attaching a link of a screenshot. This is the kind of problem I'm facing: http://i.imgur.com/zg8Bn.png Any tips what to do now? Thanks :-) Have you tried reinstalling the driver package? Not u

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/03/2012 11:55 AM, jdow wrote: On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote: How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for some time now all over the world, say in science. For example: Then you get what the gov

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Jack Craig
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi wrote: > Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like > 'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal appears to me. But I'm far away > from my computer at the moment. > > > Thx Ruben. second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago,

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/03/2012 02:55 AM, jdow wrote: Then you get what the government says you will want not what you do want. We saw that in Soviet Russia as a very glaring example. "As long as they pretend to pay us, we'll pretend to work." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

a friendly nudge to stay on topic

2012-10-03 Thread Matthew Miller
Hey everyone. While issues about the motivations behind free and open source software are very relevant to Fedora, an extended left/right debate isn't. We're not going to solve that here. Let's stipulate that reasonable people can disagree on the big political issues and leave them aside for this

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread jdow
On 2012/10/03 06:53, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Wednesday, 3. October 2012. 2.55.25 jdow wrote: On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote: How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for some time now all over the world, say in science. For example: Then you get what t

RE: att-uverse new, can't access internet

2012-10-03 Thread Tim
jackson byers: > I think there is a router, inside the uverse-modem. If you said exactly what model it is, someone may be able to tell you, or we could look for manuals and find out. Generally speaking, if the modem has two or more outputs to the computer (ethernet and/or USB), it's a combination

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday, 3. October 2012. 2.55.25 jdow wrote: > On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > How about government funding? There is a tried&tested scenario used for > > some > > time now all over the world, say in science. For example: > > Then you get what the government says you will want

Re: dump/restore selinux query

2012-10-03 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 07:40 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 10/03/2012 05:19 AM, John Austin wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> On 10/01/2012 07:10 AM, John Austin wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I have recently used a bootable F17 memory stick (fully updated) t

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 02:55 -0700, jdow wrote: > Why does FOSS critically lag with regards to what the general public > wants? Does it really? Whether it's open source projects, or proprietary business, *you* get given what *they* think is the way to do it. > Why isn't the desktop experience in

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Roger
On 03/10/12 19:18, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver? Thoughts? Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor If I had to hazard a guess?...

Re: A note on youtube-dl

2012-10-03 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 09:44:34PM +0400, Hiisi wrote: > Folks, sorry for interrupting this interesting conversation about > youtube downloader. My question is in the same field. At least about > another google product - search engine. Is there a way to store > google search results in a text f

Re: OpenOffice.org alongside LibreOffice

2012-10-03 Thread Roger
On 03/10/12 19:54, Pasha R wrote: Hi all, Is it possible to install OOo alongside LO on F17? When I try, rpm complains that "file /usr/bin/soffice from install of openoffice.org3.4-freedesktop-menus-3.4-9593.noarch conflicts with file from package libreoffice-core-1:3.5.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64". Is th

Re: gmone took over my desktop -- I want XFCE back (F17)

2012-10-03 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 08:07 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote: > System rebooted overnight on it's own somehow Gnome has takenover. > How do I reset the default desktop in F17/ > OK found desktop selection dropdown on login screen and changed it. I got my XFCE desktop back. But what could have changed i

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Hiisi
Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like 'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal appears to me. But I'm far away from my computer at the moment. On 02/10/2012, Jack Craig wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM, lostson wrote: > >> On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 08:26 -0700, Jack

gmone took over my desktop -- I want XFCE back (F17)

2012-10-03 Thread Terry Polzin
System rebooted overnight on it's own somehow Gnome has takenover. How do I reset the default desktop in F17/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.

Re: dump/restore selinux query

2012-10-03 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/2012 05:19 AM, John Austin wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> On 10/01/2012 07:10 AM, John Austin wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I have recently used a bootable F17 memory stick (fully updated) to >>> dump/restore an

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Cox
> Hw, if there is no incentive to do something, why bother to do it? That > dirty rotten awful stinky evil capitalism provides the incentive. If I > don't get something additional out of working hard, I don't work hard - > indeed, why should I bother to work at all? If nobody needs to work why bot

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0400 Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers > >> (open source too). > >> This is something which must no

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread jdow
On 2012/10/03 02:47, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow mailto:j...@earthlink.net>> wrote: (Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimu

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread jdow
On 2012/10/03 02:01, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote: On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote: Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow wrote: > (Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at > all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does > not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimum wage.") > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo3eFp0I4Iw FC -- During times of U

Re: dump/restore selinux query

2012-10-03 Thread John Austin
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 10/01/2012 07:10 AM, John Austin wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have recently used a bootable F17 memory stick (fully updated) to > > dump/restore an un-mounted Centos 6.3 system root (/) partition to a > > "clone" backup partition on a separ

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/02/2012 12:14 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: The header is self explanatory. I always wonder what bad would it bring to the vendor if they open source their graphics driver? Thoughts? Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor If I had to hazard a guess?...I would say it more about money than anything el

Re: FF 15.0.1 crashing!

2012-10-03 Thread Ruben Schade
Jack Craig wrote: > Hi Folks, > > is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and > work FF sessions had crashed > since yesterday. > > Is it finally time to move to chrome? > > tia, jackc... > > No problems for me running FF 15.0.1 and SeaMonkey 2.12 (based on FF 15.0) o

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 18.52.10 jdow wrote: > On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Tuesday, 2. October 2012. 20.56.34 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> On 10/02/2012 03:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > >>> Another factor is that the drivers may contain a lot of clever stuff. A > >>> long time

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, jdow wrote: > (Remember, a sweatshop job is better than no job at > all if it pays more than you can get with no job at all even if it does > not meet some do-gooder's idea of "minimum wage.") > Can you leave your prejudice and misconceptions out of this list, pl

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread jdow
On 2012/10/03 01:13, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jdow Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:52 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Why graphics dr

RE: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-03 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jdow Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:52 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary On 2012/10/02 13:17, Marko Voj