On 21.09.2012 07:42, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 21.09.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>
>>> To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn
>>> off secure boot or you could use your own keys signed by Microsoft.
>>> It's not (U)EFI which is the problem, it's the "secure boot".
>
On 21.09.2012, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> >To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn
> >off secure boot or you could use your own keys signed by Microsoft.
> >It's not (U)EFI which is the problem, it's the "secure boot".
> AAAhhh!! NOW I think I understand!..
Yo
On 2012/09/20 19:38, JD wrote:
On 09/20/2012 07:56 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote:
That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the
use
I really miss jigdo. It was a great way of updating the alpha iso into
the beta one. It would be mega-cool to have it available for F18...
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On 09/20/2012 07:56 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote:
That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to
the
user along with the board serial nu
On 09/20/2012 08:24 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote:
That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the
user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But
the
changes for his
On 09/20/2012 07:27 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 20.09.2012, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot
another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper
keythat is impossible?
To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn
o
Thanks to all who replied, especially the snark.
I'm replying this way because mailings from the list have been
disabled. Excessive bounces, they say.
the system in question is a laptop, so there's only one kbd, and its
not USB.
The problem is that for no apparent reason typing on the kbd does
On 09/19/2012 10:14 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 14:18 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>> Can I use (mount?) a cd reader from another computer?
>> Both computers are on internet, In aother words can I do a
>> mount 122.255.988.10:/dev/cdrom or similar?
>
> You'd mount it on the computer it's
nomnex wrote:
> I also read that (most?) vendor will allow Secure boot to be switch off
> on the BIOS.
>
> When I purchase a notebook (Prior to Secure boot), I erase the
> partition. I boot from a Live CD. If everything seems to work, and if I
> like the DE, I install the OS.
>
> And that's my qu
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On 20/09/2012 16:09, lostson wrote:
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 15:58 +0200, Vincent wrote:
On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
I have 3 machines running Fedora 17 I get the font error but I do not
get dropped to a shell I can stil
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Lailah wrote:
>
> El mar, 18-09-2012 a las 20:31 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> I use fedora 17 64 bit and my firefox version is 12.0. Java applets
> are not run in firefox. I have icedtea-web installed and following are
> the content of my /usr/l
>
> On 9/19/2012 5:54 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 17:00 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote:
>>> On 9/19/2012 3:36 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
>>>
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 10:47 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> [snip] useful recipe (similar to mine). The thing is, for me "clamdscan
>> --no
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 15:58 +0200, Vincent wrote:
> On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
> >> Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing
> >> and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link w
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:58:25PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
> Thanks Matthew, seems I'm between a rock & a hard place here. I
> don't know whether to install all upgraded packages as this is a
> fresh install & risk being dropped to a shell every time I boot, or
Well, since it's a fresh install, at l
On 20/09/2012 14:59, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing
and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link with
missing files and drops me to a shell from where I exit and
Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:39:59AM CDT--Alan Cox
(a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) said:
> Clearly because the firmware vendors do it but with access to all the
> needed documentation and signing arrangements that may be present.
Note that there are already open-source BIOS ver
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:32:46PM +0200, Vincent wrote:
> Now when it starts to boot it does the "cannot font file true" thing
> and then, after the upgrade, says there is an orphan file link with
> missing files and drops me to a shell from where I exit and fedora
> then does a repair of files an
El mar, 18-09-2012 a las 20:31 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I use fedora 17 64 bit and my firefox version is 12.0. Java applets
> are not run in firefox. I have icedtea-web installed and following are
> the content of my /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin/
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
Hi Folks, I recently downloaded the FC17 iso, in order to try out
Fedora.(Ubuntu user) via torrent and did a checksum verification check
which said that one file couldn't be read and 20 were not formatted
properly. The pgp key checked out OK.
After installing and rebooting, all went well up to j
On 2012/09/20 04:45, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote:
That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the
user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But the
changes for his system cannot affect other systems. Th
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 04:29:47AM -0700, jdow wrote:
> That is why I like my unique to the machine key that is supplied to the
> user along with the board serial number. So he can make changes. But the
> changes for his system cannot affect other systems. That would make
> custom signed Linux kern
> But it IS possible no?..providing one has the required information
> about how to do it?
Clearly because the firmware vendors do it but with access to all the
needed documentation and signing arrangements that may be present.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:10:00 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible
> > to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that
> > way.
>
> Locked to bo
> So then basically there's no REAL way to get a "modern" PC / laptop WITHOUT
> this UEFI on it? Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot
> another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper
> keythat is impossible? Just trying to understand what this means when
> it'
On 2012/09/20 04:13, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Matthew Miller mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible
> to disable it,
On 20.09.2012, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> Right? And the only way to be able to iunstall/boot
> another OS would be to turn the UEFI offbut without the proper
> keythat is impossible?
To be able to boot any other system than Windows, you have to turn
off secure boot or you could use your o
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible
> > to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that
> > way.
>
> Locked to bootlo
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible
> to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that
> way.
Locked to bootloaders signed with the Microsoft key, not _necessarily_ to
Windows,
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> > In that case, I feel that many people will start building open source
> > bioses for a limited set of mobos. They will provide the software to
> > burn the bios into the mobo's eeprom or will even sell mobo's which
> > them modify and install t
> In that case, I feel that many people will start building open source
> bioses for a limited set of mobos. They will provide the software to
> burn the bios into the mobo's eeprom or will even sell mobo's which
> them modify and install their own bios prom on. I think nature abhors
> vaccum.
Th
> The question I have is, can the buyer simply choose NOT to
> use uefi (i.e. blow it off the system) and boot any OS of choice
> which will not insist on the presence of any UEFI?
No.
> I think the answer to this question is more important as it provides
> an "opt-out" choice to the consumer.
T
Arthur Dent pise:
> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 17:00 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote:
> >
> > On 9/19/2012 3:36 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 10:47 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote:
>
> > >
> > > All is not _quite_ perfect however. In calling clamdscan from my script
> > > (itself called
Daniel J Walsh pise:
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> On 09/19/2012 07:36 AM, Bill Shirley wrote:
> >
> > On 9/19/2012 5:47 AM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> >>> "What tells it that it is a "scan" service? That bit of the puzzle
> >>> seems to be missing..."
> >>>
> >>> Whatever is t
On 9/20/2012 5:02 AM, Zdenek Pytela wrote:
Arthur Dent pise:
Well sadly no joy...
# yum install clamav-scanner-systemd
# systemctl enable clamd.scan.service
Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory
Just for the record: there are differences between f16 and f17, the
f16'
Arthur Dent pise:
> Well sadly no joy...
>
> # yum install clamav-scanner-systemd
>
> # systemctl enable clamd.scan.service
> Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory
Just for the record: there are differences between f16 and f17, the
f16's /lib/systemd/system/clamd.scan.ser
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