Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 15:01 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > I said at _boot_, not after the system is up and running. And so did I... Some of these "new hardware found" notices *are*/*were* during bootup. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my add

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Pete Stieber
On 08/07/2012 06:46 PM, PS = Pete Stieber wrote: PS>> If I temporarily disable selinux, this doesn't occur. On 8/7/2012 6:58 PM, JZ = Joe Zeff wrote: JZ> Do you have the SELinux Troubleshooter daemon JZ> running? If not, activate it and see if you JZ> have any alerts. If so, the troubleshooter

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 18:46:08 -0700, Pete Stieber wrote: Just to see if it is the cause of the problem. Once this is determined... I told you what it almost certainly was yesterday. httpd uses private tmp space by default and can't see the system /tmp where postgres puts its connectio

Re: udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:34 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > I wish someone would tell this to the thread I created called vmlinuz: > > the "sadly no response" is why I created the treads vmlinuz and one > > other; it is the realisation that these f

issue with yum distro-sync

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, When I run yum distro-sync, I get: ---> Package polkit.x86_64 0:0.103-1.fc16 will be erased --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: 1:libreoffice-core-3.4.5.2-15.fc16.x86_64 (updates) Requires: autocorr-en Removing: 1:autocorr-en-3.4.5.2-18.fc16.noarch (@u

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 06:46 PM, Pete Stieber wrote: If I temporarily disable selinux, this doesn't occur. Do you have the SELinux Troubleshooter daemon running? If not, activate it and see if you have any alerts. If so, the troubleshooter will probably tell you how to correct the issue. -- users

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Pete Stieber
On 08/06/2012 09:30 PM, PS = Pete Stieber wrote: PS>> Have you tried PS>> PS>> setenforce 0 PS>> PS>> to see if the problem is SELinux relates? On 8/6/2012 11:47 PM, JZ = Joe Zeff wrote: JZ> I take it, then, that you haven't been JZ> following the thread about Cargo Cult JZ> Sysadminning. No I h

Re: update from another machine

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank for the suggestion. However, the problem is that yum (on the "fast host") check that the package for nstallation, update or reinstallation. So I did not find a way to down load on the fast host the package for another distribution, like a i686 from a host x86_64. Can I force yum to not

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 17:41, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/07/2012 05:22 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: You were lucky. I'm dead certain he didn't agree, but at least he shut up. It's a lot nastier when they really want to argue. If he'd tried arguing, I probably would have laughed at him. After all, I was the one u

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 05:22 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: You were lucky. I'm dead certain he didn't agree, but at least he shut up. It's a lot nastier when they really want to argue. If he'd tried arguing, I probably would have laughed at him. After all, I was the one using the card and I could point to my

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:22:45PM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: > On 08/07/2012 01:05 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > I still remember when configuring X included selecting by hand the > proper driver for your card, and how badly things would fsck > themselves up if you h

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 14:49, Timothy Davis types: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:48 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it update

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 06:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question isn't normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any case if the images are t

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question isn't > normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any case if the > images are the same as you say (you've done this yourself?) it's not going to > tell me what the d

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 02:54 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2012/08/07 12:09, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> >> On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: >>> Removing PATA "because I'll never use it" leads to you discovering >>> "never" is often not that far away. (PATA seems

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 02:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/07/2012 12:09 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> You are not the only packrat when it comes to old disks. I still >> have a couple of 8" floppies yet, as well as some paper tape. I >> think I still have a

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 03:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I still remember when configuring X included selecting by hand the proper driver for your card, and how badly things would fsck themselves up if you had the wrong one. At the time, I was using a Virge S3 car

Re: bind-license package

2012-08-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 00:04:50 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > What is the purpose of mentioned package? Couldn't it be just a part of > some bind related package? > > $ rpm --query --filesbypkg bind-license > bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1 > bind-license

bind-license package

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
What is the purpose of mentioned package? Couldn't it be just a part of some bind related package? $ rpm --query --filesbypkg bind-license bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1 bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1/COPYRIGHT $ yum info bind-license ...

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 15:17, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> I could do, assuming I had both to hand. Can someone then explain why >> the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is >> correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 16:49, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> > Disclaimer: I'm no expert. >> > >> > I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install. It is >> > designed to present you a wor

Re: kernel.x86_64 3.5.0-2.fc17 question

2012-08-07 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.08.2012, Terry Polzin wrote: > Is this kernel, configured for kdump or do I have to roll my own? AS far as I know, the kernel side of kdump depends on kexec. The .config for your Fedora kernel lives in /boot: [htd@wildsau boot]$ cat config-3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64 | grep -i "kexec" CONFIG_KEXE

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 01:05 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:35:35AM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: >Then I booted into Linux. It Just Worked. Again, to be fair, initial X configuration has been less than a joyous experience on many Linux distros. It's

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:35:35AM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: > Then I booted into Linux. It Just Worked. Again, to be fair, initial X configuration has been less than a joyous experience on many Linux distros. It's gotten better--much better--but is still th

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:45:07AM +0930--Tim (ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au) said: > You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new > hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the "new > hardware detected" routine, that often

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 12:09 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You are not the only packrat when it comes to old disks. I still have a couple of 8" floppies yet, as well as some paper tape. I think I still have an 8" drive around here somewhere, and a controller to hook it to. If you do, and are thinking o

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 12:09, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the sy

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:45 AM, Tim wrote: I am not a number... ;-) (That'll probably go right over the heads of many list members.) Considering that I referenced it about a month or so ago, I hope not. BTW, I don't know why Number 6 objected so much considering h

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:33 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Will try that but I guess it's good to bite the bullet and struggle with vi once in a while. As long as I have a reference, a second computer/browser, for commands I can squeak by. *Shrug!* By the time I first encou

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:23 AM, jdow wrote: Repeating precisely the same actions and expecting different results is foolish, and getting different results is frightening. AIUI, constantly repeating the same actions and expecting different results is part of the original cargo cults, but in that case,

Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 13:28 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > The AMD people are generally cute ones Inquiring minds want to know... ;-) I've often heard arguments about how Intel hardware may be better than AMD, and vice versa, but this is the first I've heard about their staff being better looking.

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > it's good to bite the bullet and struggle with vi once in a while. Yes, while it's handy to install convenient-to-use editors, it's good to be able to do at least the basic things that you might need to do with the already-installed-by-default editors, so you have a fighting chance

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: >>> On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabl

Re: udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:34 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I wish someone would tell this to the thread I created called vmlinuz: > the "sadly no response" is why I created the treads vmlinuz and one > other; it is the realisation that these fine people who are having the > problems might not get

kernel.x86_64 3.5.0-2.fc17 question

2012-08-07 Thread Terry Polzin
Is this kernel, configured for kdump or do I have to roll my own? I can't seem to force a dump with the instructions I've found so far by just installing the kdump packages, configuring the /etc/kdump.conf file and starting the service before I try to force a dump -- users mailing list users@list

Re: resolv.conf ??

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:22 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Doing this will probably break wifi connections that lock you down > until you visit their captive web page when you authenticate and/or > agree to a usage policy. And using your ISPs when they implement a similar approach (redirecting al

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Timothy Davis
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:48 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > wrote: > > I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. > > > > Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. > >

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:34 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > giving a name to the particular release of a distro has a > social/emotional character, like giving a name to a newborn child. It > is only natural that developers are emotionally attached to their > latest "creation", and want to give it

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 11:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/07/2012 11:15 AM, Tim wrote: You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the "new hardware detected" routine, that often fails? Back when I was still dual-boot

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:15 AM, Tim wrote: You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the "new hardware detected" routine, that often fails? Back when I was still dual-booting this box, I upgraded the video car

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 14:19, Joe Zeff types: On 08/07/2012 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, that helped. I was surprised to find that I did have an error in my typing, had to use "vi" to fix and that is always a challenge for me. Still got the same error message. If y

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:13 -0400, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > I Will overlook any perceived shortcomings from now on I wouldn't go that far, just have a look into why it doesn't do something you thought it ought to. Perhaps it's a legal reason. Perhaps it conflicts with a goal of the distro. Per

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 05:22, Dave Ihnat wrote: Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software i

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 04:40, Tom Horsley wrote: So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the fact that it actually works quite often: "reinstall the program". It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linux, but I see

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the system you are compiling the kernel for will not support the hardware. No need for SATA,

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, that helped. I was surprised to find that I did have an error in my typing, had to use "vi" to fix and that is always a challenge for me. Still got the same error message. If you're uncomfortable with vi, you migh

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 10:35 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: > A generic Linux installation seems better at detecting hardware > changes "on the fly". Yes, noticing it, and correctly getting it to work, without you scrabbling around for driver discs, or files off the net. > Windows doesn't really check f

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:54 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > With respect to SELinux... I really have no idea whether it's > currently enabled, enabled in "permissive" mode or disabled (I *think* > it may be in "permissive" mode, but I wouldn't swear to it.) However, > I got to thinking... it needs t

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 12:48, Mark C. Allman types: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was making my usual configurat

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 16:44 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Reinstalling a program on Linux is almost always useless. > If a "rpm -V" comes out clean, you will not get very far > with a reinstall. > > On Windows it usually works because of poor handling of > dependencies and DLL-hell (reinstalling

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 10:28 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > Quoting Dave Ihnat : > >> Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: >>> Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes >>> bad a

Re: resolv.conf ??

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:19:19 -0400, Jim wrote: F17 How do I LOCK-IN namserver ijn resolv.conf so it cannot be changed by Fedora ? I run a local caching resolver on most of my machines, and I have found that it isn't hard to override the name server and search list while still using d

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. > > Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. > I was making my usual configuration changes, rebooted and now it >

Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was making my usual configuration changes, rebooted and now it stops just before the login screen. blank with just "Can not open font file True"

Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-08-07 Thread Georgios Petasis
Στις 2/8/2012 14:28, ο/η Heinz Diehl έγραψε: On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote: So, this is a processor bug? I would expect that Linux should detect these automatically... If I remember all correctly, there were two mainly independend issues with C1E in Linux, one which is processor-relate

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > Disclaimer: I'm no expert. > > > > I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install. It is > > designed to present you a working desktop and if you like it, install to > > ha

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:28:09AM -0400--John Aldrich (jmaldr...@yahoo.com) said: > Yes...but if your Linux box is set up with a generic, modular > kernel, chances are you won't have to re-install Linux, where, as > you point out, with Windows, you'll have to do a "repai

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting Dave Ihnat : Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software installed on that

Re: Searching For.....

2012-08-07 Thread Jack Craig
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Lailah wrote: > ** > > Usually are the Fedora Ambassadors who have this kind of things like > t-shirts and mugs. Where do you live? > Please post your results, I'd like a fedora t-shirt too! :) > > *Lailah* > El dom, 05-08-2012 a las 16:50 -0400, Eddie G. O'Con

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-08-07 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Philippe LeCavalier < supp...@plecavalier.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David G. Miller wrote: > >> Philippe LeCavalier plecavalier.com> writes: >> >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier >> plecavalier.com> wrote: >>

Re: Searching For.....

2012-08-07 Thread Lailah
Usually are the Fedora Ambassadors who have this kind of things like t-shirts and mugs. Where do you live? Lailah El dom, 05-08-2012 a las 16:50 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. escribió: > Just another "not-quite-so-stupid" question: If I wanted Fedora > "Swag"...(t-shirts, coffee mug, baseball c

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/07/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original > admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the > fact that it actually works quite often: "reinstall the > program". > > It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linu

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

2012-08-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 01:48 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:48 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 08/06/2012 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > I also find evolution 3.4.3 less stable then evolution use to be. My > > > solution is to use the backup evolution data option un

Re: udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Aug 6 14:57, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:31:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: > > > > > > udisksd[22965]: Error performing

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

2012-08-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 20:04 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:24 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > If you include the update repo when you are finished with the update > > you will have installed the latest versions of all the software. > > ... as I'd already said. > You are right . You

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > I could do, assuming I had both to hand. Can someone then explain why > the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is > correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see > that should be the name of the image that

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 08:23 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >>> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and >>> installer discs will chip in here. The kerne

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and >> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk >> is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentatio

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:14:27 +0200 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > IPv6 is the future but as someone has already written in lot of cases > it's not supported by routers and ISP's so having it enabled in your OS > is pointless. I'll revers your argumentation - it doesn't add any value > in such syste

Re: State of clang++ in Fedora

2012-08-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > What is the state of clang++ in Fedora 17 (or any other version)? I know > that clang++ is currently broken in Fedora 17 but are there any ongoing > efforts to make it operational? f17/clang++ is the only place where things are bad currently due to being stuck on ll

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: > Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes > bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and > all other software installed on that disk are suddenly u

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 06.08.2012 22:38, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/06/2012 01:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Tim wrote: Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have

State of clang++ in Fedora

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
What is the state of clang++ in Fedora 17 (or any other version)? I know that clang++ is currently broken in Fedora 17 but are there any ongoing efforts to make it operational? Is there a place (maybe some wiki?) where undergoing development of clang in Fedora could be monitored, besides regular b

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread John Aldrich
With respect to SELinux... I really have no idea whether it's currently enabled, enabled in "permissive" mode or disabled (I *think* it may be in "permissive" mode, but I wouldn't swear to it.) However, I got to thinking... it needs to be set up more like an antivirus program, i.e. smart en

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Horsley
So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the fact that it actually works quite often: "reinstall the program". It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linux, but I see folks say it on Linux as well, and the tot

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, 7. August 2012. 14.44.32 Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 00:48 -0400, Doug wrote: > > Well, here's my 2¢: I think naming is dumb, *because* there is no > > logical sequence to it--the reader does not know whether the named > > version is current, last year's, or 2005's. > > The nami

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and > installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk > is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation > for the install disc one says. I can only gu

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: > On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> >> Disabling it because the system you are compiling the kernel for >> will not support the hardware. No need for SATA, PCI, or cardbus >> stuff on a system that

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I after with youand I "take back" all that I've said!...Fedora is to mePERFECT!...and I Will overlook any perceived shortcomings from now on On Aug 7, 2012 6:33 AM, "Tim" wrote: > On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 00:38 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > > > > Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Disclaimer: I'm no expert. > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and >> installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk >> is vmlinuz0, bu

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:24 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > If you include the update repo when you are finished with the update > you will have installed the latest versions of all the software. ... as I'd already said. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 00:38 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > > Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and gotten my laptop upgraded to Fedora > 17! But I now am trying to play .mp4 / .flv/ .avi movies on it and > getting an error message telling me that there are plugins missing. I > also get error

Re: udisks2: "Error updating SMART data"

2012-08-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 6 14:57, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:31:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: > > > > udisksd[22965]: Error performing housekeeping for drive > >/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/WDC_WD15

Re: rpmfusion :: problems with nvidia packages?

2012-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/08/12 09:44, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: and the problem persists.. is there a problem with packaging? Thanks! Adrian http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

rpmfusion :: problems with nvidia packages?

2012-08-07 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! I try to update the nvidia drivers but i have some problems : --> Running transaction check ---> Package akmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:295.59-1.fc16 will be updated ---> Package akmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:304.32-2.fc16 will be an update --> Processing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common >= 1:304.32 for package:

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
Disclaimer: I'm no expert. On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > > Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and > installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk > is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentati

Re: boot: linux text => "Could not find kernel image: linux"

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 19:06, Dave Burns wrote: > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns wrote: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 201

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 21:53, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/06/2012 01:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> >> Well, the thing is that SELinux often has effects that aren't >> particularly obvious. After upgrading to F15 I found I couldn't log in >> without disabling SELinux. At that point you can either try and fix >

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:11:43 -0400, Felipe Nunez wrote: I am certainly sure that this list is not the adequate place to try to solve a problem I'm having with the tools Rails 3, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache when working in production environment in Fedora 17. Whenever I try to access