On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:39 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> While it's technically true to call such distros
> "GNU/Linux", such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and
> richness of those distros. It would be like calling the USA "the
> country that contains Boston."
>
> Also, outside of mys
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 15:08 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:16 -0400, Aaron Konsta
This is all IMHO...
Linux is the kernel.
GNU is a project to create a Free operating system, which has created
such components as glibc, gcc, emacs, gdb, etc.
GNU/Linux is a combination of the two - any Linux-based operating system
that uses the GNU components.
There are other GNU-based operat
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 08/03/2012 02:15 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Stevens
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2012 01:46 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
>>>
Thanks for your response.
On Fri, Aug 3,
Am 03.08.2012 16:02, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:46:41 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.08.2012 12:38, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
>>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>>
That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
Am 03.08.2012 14:54, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
> On 03.08.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> adn yes i installed the first 3.5 MINUTES after it was built on
>> koji on a for me very important machine
>
> An important machine should only be updated (stable or not - whatever)
> with a complete and funct
Am 04.08.2012 00:42, schrieb Konstantin Svist:
> I'm trying to track down kernel versions that caused a few regressions on my
> servers.
>
> A recent one is somewhere between 3.4.2-1.fc16 and 3.4.6-1.fc16, and another
> one somewhere between
> 2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc15 and 2.6.43.8-1.fc15
>
> Is t
On 2012-08-03 01:00, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 22:15:59 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
On 2012-08-02 22:12, Germán A. Racca wrote:
> On 08/02/2012 04:16 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have 3 machines:
>> 1) Fedora 16 i686
>> 2) Fedora 16 x86_64
>> 3) Fedora 17 x86_64
I'm trying to track down kernel versions that caused a few regressions
on my servers.
A recent one is somewhere between 3.4.2-1.fc16 and 3.4.6-1.fc16, and
another one somewhere between 2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc15 and 2.6.43.8-1.fc15
Is there a place where I can see a list of Fedora's kernel revision
On 08/03/2012 02:15 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 08/03/2012 01:46 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
Thanks for your response.
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jack Craig
wrote:
i used live-creator to put a boot image on a
Joe Zeff wrote:
> I was under the impression that they were kept until the kernel they
> applied to was removed. And, as I understand it, the headers for each
> kernel are kept in a separate directory named after the version. If
> they're not kept (and my understanding of their location is correc
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 08/03/2012 01:46 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
>
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jack Craig
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> i used live-creator to put a boot image on a usb thumb drive; worked
>>> great...
>>
>
On 08/03/2012 01:46 PM, Dave Burns issued this missive::
Thanks for your response.
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
i used live-creator to put a boot image on a usb thumb drive; worked
great...
I have access to an image. I am able to boot it. Switching to a thumb
drive seem
Thanks for your response.
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jack Craig wrote:
> i used live-creator to put a boot image on a usb thumb drive; worked
> great...
I have access to an image. I am able to boot it. Switching to a thumb
drive seems unlikely to improve things, since my problem seems to b
On 08/03/2012 01:09 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 3 August 2012 19:14, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/03/2012 03:26 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
have it in their cache?
By de
i used live-creator to put a boot image on a usb thumb drive; worked
great...
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Dave Burns wrote:
> When I boot from the fc17 install DVD, I am not able to get the
> installer to run in gui or text mode. But I can log in as root by
> hitting ctl-alt-f3. Is there a
On 3 August 2012 19:14, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/03/2012 03:26 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>>
>> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
>> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
>> have it in their cache?
>
>
> By default, yum keeps the most rece
When I boot from the fc17 install DVD, I am not able to get the
installer to run in gui or text mode. But I can log in as root by
hitting ctl-alt-f3. Is there a way to run the installer from there?
mahalo,
TDB
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On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:37 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:16 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > Beforwe I file a bugzilla does spamaswsassin Ju
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 10:34 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:16 -0400, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > Beforwe I file a bugzilla does spamaswsassin Junk processing work
> > for
> > > anyone under evolution?
> >
> > I
On 08/03/2012 03:26 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
have it in their cache?
By default, yum keeps the most recent 3 kernels installed. How often do
you think users ne
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:14:20 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > 1) Ticket history reveals that there has been a very quick response
> > by davej: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=843826
> > So, your bug report has not been ignored, albeit reassigned to a
> > different component withou
On 08/01/2012 12:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
> I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
> (if that is indeed the right name).
No, you're not the only one. We discussed this at the time.
We took
when i pulled (by mistake) all the LIbreOffice pkgs via yum i got a ton of
different language support for aspell, etc.
not sure if it provides what you need, but fyi regardless...
HTH, ..
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I currently try to install german langpac
On 08/03/2012 11:34 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
From:
Matthew Saltzman
Reply-to:
Community support
for Fedora users
To:
Community support
for Fedora users
Subject:
Re: Does
Spamassassin junk
pr
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 14.03 -0700, Shawn Badger ha scritto:
> I am using the Connection Manager extension and have been very happy
> with it so far.
>
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/45/connection-manager/
>
Thanks Shawn, it's not the same thing of gnome2 drawers, but work
I h
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 21:23 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
>
>From:
> Matthew Saltzman
>
>Reply-to:
> Community support
> for Fedora users
>
> To:
> Community support
> for Fedora users
>
> Subject:
> Re: Does
> Spamassassin junk
> processing work
>
On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:46:41 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 03.08.2012 12:38, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> > On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> >
> >> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
> >> versions of the kernel in case some users need
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 08:57 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote:
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> However, the kernel was far less successful. Despite the claims
> of "superior architecture", Hurd has never caught on; almost every
> implementation you'll run into (I'd say 'every', but someone would come
> up with John Drutin's Distro as a counter-example) uses the Linux kernel
> and GNU libr
Hi,
Firefox, built from .srpm from F17-updates repository, fails to install:
This is the error-message which shows up:
"Unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox;501bceec: cpio:
Digest mismatch"
The package is original Fedora and not altered in any way. Extracted
it, ran "r
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On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 20:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-0
On 03.08.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
> adn yes i installed the first 3.5 MINUTES after it was built on
> koji on a for me very important machine
An important machine should only be updated (stable or not - whatever)
with a complete and functional backup prior to updating. New code
doesn't only co
Am 03.08.2012 12:38, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
>> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
>> have it in their cache?
>
> IMO, the communit
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:38:13PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
> > versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
> > have it in their cache?
>
Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:05:51PM -0700--Gordon
Messmer (yiny...@eburg.com) said:
> That's a load of hooey. GNU the project provides a collection of
> Free Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
> The goal was an implementation of the POSIX operati
On 3 August 2012 12:29, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
> > GNU the project provides a collection of Free
> > Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
>
> Did you run this operating system?
>
Although I hate people calling Linux "GNU/Linux"... See the history o
Gordon Messmer wrote:
> GNU the project provides a collection of Free
> Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
Did you run this operating system?
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:26:43 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> That said, maybe the Fedora repos can keep more than one (say 2-3)
> versions of the kernel in case some users need to downgrade and don't
> have it in their cache?
IMO, the community would be served better if they tried packages from
updates
On 08/03/2012 04:50 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> I currently try to install german langpacks to a fresh F17, but - even
> if this should be a really simple task - failed so far:
> - system-config-language relies on a feature no longer present, to
> install language-packages
> - yum langpacks plugi
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 04:48:13PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> I was more curious about the downgrade issue.having never tried it
> before. Seems as if "downgrade" doesn't really mean what it says in
> "man yum" since the repos only contain the latest update to a package
> in the "updates" r
On 03/08/12 09:48, Ed Greshko wrote:
I was more curious about the downgrade issue.having never tried it before. Seems as if "downgrade"
doesn't really mean what it says in "man yum" since the repos only contain the latest update to a package in
the "updates" repo and the initial release
Hi,
I currently try to install german langpacks to a fresh F17, but - even
if this should be a really simple task - failed so far:
- system-config-language relies on a feature no longer present, to
install language-packages
- yum langpacks plugin only applies, when installing new packages
Is ther
On 08/03/2012 04:39 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> The 3.5.0 breakage is already reported, it's supposed to be fixed in the next
> VirtualBox release. Now that it's affecting F17 and not just Rawhide,
> hopefully
> that will be expedited.
>
> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10709
Yes, I did find t
The 3.5.0 breakage is already reported, it's supposed to be fixed in the next
VirtualBox release. Now that it's affecting F17 and not just Rawhide, hopefully
that will be expedited.
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10709
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:36:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/03/2012 02:32 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On 03/08/12 07:27, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> Today the kernel was updated to 3.5.0-2. However, this has caused a
> >> breakage in compiling the VirtualBox Guest Additions.
> >>
> >> So, I wanted
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