Re: F16: Webcam by Logitech (Orbicam) is not working

2012-04-14 Thread Tommy Pham
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:24 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: > Tommy Pham ha scritto / said the following    il giorno/on 15/04/2012 01:13: >> >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, antonio montagnani >>  wrote: >>> >>> Installed F16 on a quite old laptop (Acer 5672WLMI) of a friend of mine >>> repla

Re: F16: Webcam by Logitech (Orbicam) is not working

2012-04-14 Thread antonio montagnani
Tommy Pham ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 15/04/2012 01:13: On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: Installed F16 on a quite old laptop (Acer 5672WLMI) of a friend of mine replacing WinXp: everything is o.k., Fedora is running smoothly, the only problem is t

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
> Definitely yes. But again, that only matters if you had lots of curl > commands each with its own >> file open. But your code had one >> open > and lots of echoes (well, curls) using it. > > Which is it? (Actually, both should work. But we need to know what is > actually goging on.) It's the l

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
> > if your script forks off lots of curls into a file and does not wait for > them all, then you may get to run the grep before they all finish, hence > the weird results. If ioTest.sh is the original example I posted, I'm NOT doing this: ./ioTest.sh | grep ^A | wc -l I am doing this: ./ioTes

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 20:26 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 14.04.2012 20:19, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > >> When you do a "kill" you are sending a "signal" to a process and that > >> process will > >> act upon it depending on the signal. For example, if you did a "kill -1" > >> to the >

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/15/2012 10:36 AM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > It does seem to work, but can you explain why it does? Would it still > work if each process outputs, say, 1Mb? 100Mb? It works fine when i is set to 100. I think I'll leave the explanations to Cameron, who is doing a *much* better job in that

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 15Apr2012 02:36, Amadeus W.M. wrote: | > [egreshko@meimei test]$ mkfifo pipe | > [egreshko@meimei test]$ ./io.sh > pipe | > [egreshko@meimei test]$ cat pipe | grep ^A | wc | > 100 100 600 | > | | It does seem to work, but can you explain why it does? Would it still | work if each

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 15Apr2012 02:32, Amadeus W.M. wrote: | > | Multiple processes that open the same file for writing each maintain | | > their own file positions, so they may overwrite the output of another | | > process, unless the processes all open the file with the "O_APPEND" | | > option. | > | > This only

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
> > [egreshko@meimei test]$ mkfifo pipe > [egreshko@meimei test]$ ./io.sh > pipe > > [egreshko@meimei test]$ cat pipe | grep ^A | wc > 100 100 600 > It does seem to work, but can you explain why it does? Would it still work if each process outputs, say, 1Mb? 100Mb? -- users mail

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
> > | Multiple processes that open the same file for writing each maintain | > their own file positions, so they may overwrite the output of another | > process, unless the processes all open the file with the "O_APPEND" | > option. > > This only matters if the processes _independently_ opened t

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:45:50 -0700, John Wendel wrote: > On 04/14/2012 08:20 AM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >>> If you really would like to get output in sequence, write to a pipe, >>> and have a reader process drain the pipe to a logfile. It's pretty >>> easy; look at "mknod" with the 'p' option, or "m

Re: F16: Webcam by Logitech (Orbicam) is not working

2012-04-14 Thread Tommy Pham
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: > Installed F16 on a quite old laptop (Acer 5672WLMI) of a friend of mine > replacing WinXp: everything is o.k., Fedora is running smoothly, the only > problem is that the webcam is not recognized, also lsusb doesn't show > anything. > I g

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14Apr2012 09:45, John Wendel wrote: | > I don't see how echoing into a pipe would change the problem. | > Theoretically, if several processes (e.g. echo) are running in the | > background, e.g. on a round robin basis, then potentially I could see | > random sequences of As, Bs and Cs. It doesn'

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 14 Apr 2012 at 9:45, John Wendel wrote: Date sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:45:50 -0700 From: John Wendel To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes > On 04/14/2012 08:20 AM,

F16: Webcam by Logitech (Orbicam) is not working

2012-04-14 Thread antonio montagnani
Installed F16 on a quite old laptop (Acer 5672WLMI) of a friend of mine replacing WinXp: everything is o.k., Fedora is running smoothly, the only problem is that the webcam is not recognized, also lsusb doesn't show anything. I guess that webcam is a Logitech Orbicam, from the specification, als

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Shane
On 04/14/2012 04:11 PM, Alan Cox wrote: Under what circumstance would killing a waiting process be worse than a process that should have waited, but terminated instead? When it leaves the system in an unstable state or where corruption could follow. Far better then to leave that process stuck un

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Alan Cox
> One of my favorite near infinite hangs is a giant process that > decides to core dump across NFS. I don't know if it is still > the case, but once upon a time when linux started writing > a core file, it would never stop for any reason till it was > done. We fixed that one 8) Alan -- users mai

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:11:36 +0100 Alan Cox wrote: > In the case of NFS btw read the mount page for the "soft" and "intr" > options and also read about umount -f. One of my favorite near infinite hangs is a giant process that decides to core dump across NFS. I don't know if it is still the case,

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Alan Cox
> Under what circumstance would killing a waiting process > be worse than a process that should have waited, > but terminated instead? When it leaves the system in an unstable state or where corruption could follow. Far better then to leave that process stuck unless things sort out. In the case o

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 14 April 2012 20:37, jdow wrote: > I was about to comment a little more acerbicly that he's obviously a > youngster. > Killing power used to be the only way to shut down a locked up computer > with > ANY then available OS on it. I remember those bad old days too well. > > {^_-} Shudder. I

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 12:40 PM, jdow wrote: As long as that is enabled in the BIOS it will perform a hard shutdown. Of course, if the heart is racing sometimes it is wise to tell the poor victim, hold it in for 30 seconds or until the computer shuts down. Back when I was on the phone, you sometimes nee

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 14 April 2012 20:25, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > Under what circumstance would killing a waiting process > be worse than a process that should have waited, > but terminated instead? > > Waiting for a timeout implies a reasonably sane state of affairs regarding any data in transit, and if the wo

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 14 April 2012 20:06, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'd think that there'd have to be a special command, requiring root, to do > it for exactly that reason. There's no way you can safely automate that > decision, and it's probably best if the average user doesn't have direct > access to it; if nothing els

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 12:25 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Under what circumstance would killing a waiting process be worse than a process that should have waited, but terminated instead? I think that the idea is that if the process is in an uninterruptable sleep, it's for a good reason and the kernel is

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/14 12:37, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/14/2012 12:13 PM, My Usenet wrote: Typically if you need to do a bios reset - then unplugging the battery will be helpful. I take it that you didn't bother to read my original post. I was talking about a computer hanging while processing an interrupt

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/14 12:30, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/14/2012 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: every computer i know does a hard power-off pressing the power-button for 5 seconds if all other things are failing This was about ten or twelve years ago. I'm not sure, but I might have even had them try that. (

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 12:13 PM, My Usenet wrote: Typically if you need to do a bios reset - then unplugging the battery will be helpful. I take it that you didn't bother to read my original post. I was talking about a computer hanging while processing an interrupt with interrupts disabled. Not some

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: every computer i know does a hard power-off pressing the power-button for 5 seconds if all other things are failing This was about ten or twelve years ago. I'm not sure, but I might have even had them try that. (Please note that even then, their l

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 14 April 2012 19:26, Reindl Harald wrote: on the other hand i am missing understanding that there is no root-command to kill such processes without "their help" the kernel should be able to kill anything sounds like a missing interface for me

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread My Usenet
On 04/14/2012 01:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 14.04.2012 20:55, schrieb Joe Zeff: >> Once, the computer was a laptop and the caller had to go hunt up a >> screwdriver to take the battery out. > not really > > every computer i know does a hard power-off pressing the power-button > for 5 secon

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.04.2012 20:55, schrieb Joe Zeff: > Once, the computer was a laptop and the caller had to go hunt up a > screwdriver to take the battery out. not really every computer i know does a hard power-off pressing the power-button for 5 seconds if all other things are failing signature.asc Des

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 11:42 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: In theory, yes, but the problem would be that the kernel would no longer have any way of knowing what state the device being waited on is in. Depending on the device that could be very bad news and potentially result in trashed data. I'd think that

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2012 11:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Exactly. The correct view of "kill -9" is not that you kill the process but that you order the process to commit suicide. If it's not listening, no amount of shouting is going to make a difference. As another example, your CPU sometimes disable

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread stan
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:30:37 +0200 suvayu ali wrote: > > Also try booting to an older kernel (from before the problem), if > > you have one. > > > > I had tried this with no success. If it was a driver issue booting to > a kernel from before the problem started should have worked, but it > didn

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 14 April 2012 19:26, Reindl Harald wrote: > > on the other hand i am missing understanding that there > is no root-command to kill such processes without > "their help" > > the kernel should be able to kill anything > sounds like a missing interface for me > In theory, yes, but the problem wo

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.04.2012 20:19, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: >> When you do a "kill" you are sending a "signal" to a process and that >> process will >> act upon it depending on the signal. For example, if you did a "kill -1" to >> the >> named process it will cause it to reread its configuration files a

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 23:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/14/2012 10:54 PM, Hal wrote: > > > > > > On 4/14/2012 8:08 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray wrote: > >>> Again how do you kill a cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! > >> I'll repeat myself: "The only way

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread John Wendel
On 04/14/2012 08:20 AM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: If you really would like to get output in sequence, write to a pipe, and have a reader process drain the pipe to a logfile. It's pretty easy; look at "mknod" with the 'p' option, or "mkfifo". I'd still suggest tagging each output line with an identifi

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
Hey Stan, I found something interesting, comments are below. On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 17:06, stan wrote: > > This is a long shot, but it might be that alsa has sorted your sound > devices in a different order on boot.  It sounds like it thinks your > acpi might be a sound device. > > Try > aplay

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 11:20 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > Theoretically, if several processes (e.g. echo) are running in the > background, e.g. on a round robin basis, then potentially I could see > random sequences of As, Bs and Cs. It doesn't seem to be the case in > practice though. So which is it? Oh,

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 11:20 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > For the sake of the argument, assume I echo 500 As, 500 Bs and 500 Cs. > > I don't care which process the output is coming from. It doesn't matter > which order the As, Bs and Cs are output. All I care about is that I > don't get 349As followed by 24

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 11:22 PM, Hal wrote: > FINE..then REBOOT the darn thing and quit wasting time ..!! Actually, the only time wasted was yours in answering a question erroneously. I view correcting your response as a community service. :-) :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, yo

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Hal
On 4/14/2012 11:15 AM, suvayu ali wrote: Hi Hal, On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:54, Hal wrote: On 4/14/2012 8:08 AM, suvayu ali wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray wrote: Again how do you kill a cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! I'll repeat myself: "The only way to get rid of t

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Amadeus W.M.
> If you really would like to get output in sequence, write to a pipe, and > have a reader process drain the pipe to a logfile. It's pretty easy; > look at "mknod" with the 'p' option, or "mkfifo". I'd still suggest > tagging each output line with an identifier and sequence number. > For the sa

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Hal, On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:54, Hal wrote: > On 4/14/2012 8:08 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray >>  wrote: >>> >>> Again how do you kill a  cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! >> >> I'll repeat myself: "The only way to get rid of these processes is to >> w

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 10:54 PM, Hal wrote: > > > On 4/14/2012 8:08 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray wrote: >>> Again how do you kill a cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! >> I'll repeat myself: "The only way to get rid of these processes is to >> wait or reboot." >> > > Par

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread stan
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:47:49 +0200 suvayu ali wrote: > I looked in /var/log/messages. I see no suspicious messages. But I do > see the following: > > pulseaudio[1455]: module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working > profile. pulseaudio[1455]: module.c: Failed to load module > "module-alsa-card"

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread Hal
On 4/14/2012 8:08 AM, suvayu ali wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray wrote: Again how do you kill a cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! I'll repeat myself: "The only way to get rid of these processes is to wait or reboot." Pardon my stupidity, if you can observe ot determine th

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread inode0
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^A out | wc >>      97      97     582 >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^B out | wc >>      94      94     564 >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^C out | wc >>      96      96     576 > > I replicated this and in

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread stan
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:15:44 +0200 suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 14:47, suvayu ali > wrote: > >> I don't think this is an alsa issue.  If alsamixer sees the mic, > >> then alsa is handling it properly, if the driver and hardware are > >> OK. > >> > >> Install pavucontrol and check

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 10:09 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 09:49:00PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> The one problem would be if, as the OP's script is written, >> backgrounding of processes is done there is no way to control the >> order of data being written to the pipe. And, as you pointe

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 09:49:00PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > The one problem would be if, as the OP's script is written, > backgrounding of processes is done there is no way to control the > order of data being written to the pipe. And, as you pointed out, > you may want to write out sequence num

Re: Perhaps this exists already, and if not, it should...

2012-04-14 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:01, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Although evince will do > that, acroread is  the adobe reader application. You missed the point I was trying to make, completely. Please, re-read my message. It has been answered already anyway. But thanks for your response. FC -- During tim

Re: Perhaps this exists already, and if not, it should...

2012-04-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 17:56 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I found myself on a command line window, wanting to open a PDF, and I > didnt remember the name of the pdf reader that now comes as a default > install for Fedora. Too many years of "just installing Acrobat" left > me with "./acroread wha

Re: External eSATA drive not recognized on 2nd power up

2012-04-14 Thread John Austin
On Sun, 2012-04-08 at 12:34 +0100, John Austin wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 19:09 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote: > > I asked Patrick: > > > Does it work with older (pre 3.3) kernels? > > > > Patrick Lists wrote: > > > I don't have a pre-3.3 kernel as these are kickstart deployments of > > > F16 +

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 09:33 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 01:35:38AM +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> So here is the question. Suppose I have several processes that run >> concurrently and each outputs stuff to stdout. Can the combined output be >> intermingled? > If you just send the out

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 03:30, Ed Greshko wrote: > Why don't you switch your youtube experience to hmtl5? > > http://www.youtube.com/html5 Just to parachute into this thread, and not being the OP... I found the default plug-in to be lacking. Particularly, it displays some youtube videos, but not

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/14/2012 09:11 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > With the old flash plugin, youtube works fine. > >> > May put >> > flash in one account on the box I'm using here, to see if it's perhaps >> > a CPU or other hardware issue but not now. > Okay, the current flash plugin and yesterdays both work on this box.

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 01:35:38AM +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > So here is the question. Suppose I have several processes that run > concurrently and each outputs stuff to stdout. Can the combined output be > intermingled? If you just send the output to a file, you've no way of knowing exactly

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joel Rees writes: Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp Why are you making this more difficult than it needs to me? Just install their yum repository package, and you get your Flash updates via Packagekit. This morning PackageKit prompted me to update the ker

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 14:47, suvayu ali wrote: >> I don't think this is an alsa issue.  If alsamixer sees the mic, then >> alsa is handling it properly, if the driver and hardware are OK. >> >> Install pavucontrol and check how pulse is viewing the microphone. >> Perhaps it inadvertently got tur

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 03:15, Joel Rees wrote: > Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp > says today's tarball is different from yesterdays. I thought Adobe had dropped Linux support for Flash, expect in its "embedded into Chrome" version? FC -- During times of Un

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 04/14/2012 02:15 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp >>> says today's tarball is different from yesterdays. Unpacking the >>> tarba

Re: ThinkPad microphone not working

2012-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Stan, Thanks for your helpful comments. On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 18:33, stan wrote: > Did anything change around the time the mic stopped working? > I think I inadvertently dropped my backpack to the floor (from about 15 cm) with the ThinkPad inside along with a few books and some clothes. I

Re: Can't kill hung remote CP copy

2012-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 21:09, Andrew Gray wrote: > Again how do you kill a  cp in UNINTERRUPTIBLE SLEEP !!! I'll repeat myself: "The only way to get rid of these processes is to wait or reboot." -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: Perhaps this exists already, and if not, it should...

2012-04-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.04.2012 13:43, schrieb Antonio.montagnani: > I was suggesting that if either the browser or > the server does not know how to play nice, > the user might want to make a firm suggestion. > I've occasionally been annoyed by a text, not .txt, > file mime-typed application/binary or some such.

R: Re: Perhaps this exists already, and if not, it should...

2012-04-14 Thread Antonio.montagnani
Inviato da Samsung Mobile Original message Subject: Re: Perhaps this exists already, and if not, it should... From: Michael Hennebry To: Community support for Fedora users CC: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 14.04.2012 00:07, schrieb Michael Hennebry: >

systemctl without privilege

2012-04-14 Thread Frank Murphy
clamav-server installed using: https://raw.github.com/csmart/naa/master/sysadmin/scripts/configure-clamd.sh Am running clamd instance as user "clamav" How can I get the following to work as clamav, or do I have to get user clamav to join a privileged group? --snips from freshclam.conf #

Re: flash updated (11.2 r202) yesterday, strange permissions stuff, no youtube

2012-04-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/14/2012 02:15 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> Well, I just downloaded the tarball once more, and took a look. cmp >> says today's tarball is different from yesterdays. Unpacking the >> tarball and doing a diff -r reveals that they differ in the co