Re: peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Sweet, thanks guys > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:56:39 +0200 >> Christopher Svanefalk wrote: >> >> > What I want is a reasonable way for the two computers to keep their >> > re

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/26/2012 12:50 AM, Bruno Martins wrote: On 03/25/2012 08:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/25/2012 07:19 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/25/2012 02:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F16, Gnome3. (sent also to gnome NM list) I am at a friend's house in Amsterdam trying to get connect to h

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Scott Doty
On 03/25/2012 07:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/25/2012 11:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> How are you logging in? gdm? How are you starting X? > > Yes, I'm logging in on both computers via gdm and using XFCE. The > advice I got through fedorafourm.org simply stated that you had to be > in the audio

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/26/2012 09:18 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > what does > systemctl status rc-local.service shows? static But, it doesn't matter. It works as advertised. The problem the OP had, has been solved. The command being used in his script required a DISPLAY. -- users mailing list users@

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the > LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find? If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 01:44 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Some one said in a note earlier today that would lead me to find out why the installed system only works in fail safe mode but it doesn't.. Does it to anyone else. As I wrote at the time, this allows you to make sure it's not hardware related. Ther

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 11:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: How are you logging in? gdm? How are you starting X? Yes, I'm logging in on both computers via gdm and using XFCE. The advice I got through fedorafourm.org simply stated that you had to be in the audio group to have access to the appropriate devices

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 26 Mar 2012 at 1:57, Ed Greshko wrote: Date sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:57:58 +0800 From: Ed Greshko To: Community support for Fedora users Subject:Re: rc.local not loaded on boot Send reply to: Community support for F

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/26/2012 02:42 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > ConsoleKit should set filesystem acls on all devices needed for local > users. I thought that was udev's job. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:05:41 -0700 don fisher wrote: > Thanks. After a reboot, it started working for an as yet unknown > reason. Perversity! ;-) > With my home audio system, I can debug things with a signal generator > starting at the speaker and working back to the source until I find > wh

Re: booting from DVD image on hard drive partition

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:04:47 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, stan wrote: > > There is something wrong with your install. > > > > You can try rebuilding your rpm database as root. > > rpm --rebuilddb > > This will take a while, depending on your package count. > > Tha

Re: booting from DVD image on hard drive partition

2012-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, stan wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:28:43 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: I couldn't use the kickstart file. I kept getting messages like this: Unable to read package metadata. This may be due to a missing repodata directory. Please ensure that your install tree has

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread Bruno Martins
On 03/25/2012 08:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/25/2012 07:19 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/25/2012 02:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F16, Gnome3. (sent also to gnome NM list) I am at a friend's house in Amsterdam trying to get connect to his wireless and it is failing, so this message

Re: peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Anthony Messina
On 03/25/2012 03:18 PM, Bruno Martins wrote: > On 03/25/2012 09:07 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: >> Sweet, thanks guys >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Frank Cox > > wrote: >> >> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:56:39 +0200 >> Christopher Svanefalk wrote: >> >>

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 10:50 -0700, stan wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) > Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > In another thread, > > it was suggested that this bugzilla entry might be pertinent: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730007 > > While I can certainly see the

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Bruno Martins
On 03/25/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:57:25 +0100 Bruno Martins wrote: Hello list, I can read here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html the following: 3.2.4. rc.local no longer pa

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:00:06 +0200 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Right click on the NM applet does nothing in Gnome3. So do I send > the bug report to redhat or gnome? Open it at the redhat site, but against Fedora. I think you should open it against gnome and let it work its way through the syste

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 08:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your > > help would be appreciated. > > What happens when you boot from a LiveCD? II my case the live DVD comes up in regul

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 10:35 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Everyone, > > Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system > switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was > something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much > wors

Re: peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Bruno Martins
On 03/25/2012 09:07 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Sweet, thanks guys On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Frank Cox > wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:56:39 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > What I want is a reasonable way for the two computers to keep

Re: peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Sweet, thanks guys On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:56:39 +0200 > Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > > > What I want is a reasonable way for the two computers to keep their > > respective home folders in synch on request (does not need to be by a > > daemon

Re: peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:56:39 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > What I want is a reasonable way for the two computers to keep their > respective home folders in synch on request (does not need to be by a > daemon i.e. Dropbox, although that would be preferred). Is there any > software that accom

peer-to-peer home folder synch

2012-03-25 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Assume I have a desktop and laptop both running F16+. What I want is a reasonable way for the two computers to keep their respective home folders in synch on request (does not need to be by a daemon i.e. Dropbox, although that would be preferred). Is there any software that accomplishes this, or a

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/25/2012 07:19 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 03/25/2012 02:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: F16, Gnome3. (sent also to gnome NM list) I am at a friend's house in Amsterdam trying to get connect to his wireless and it is failing, so this message SHOULD go out when I get to the KLM lounge tommo

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:57:25 +0100 Bruno Martins wrote: > Hello list, > > I can read here: > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html > > the following: > > > 3.2.4. rc.local no longer packaged > > The |/etc/rc.d/rc

Re: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:15:13 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/24/2012 01:52 PM, don fisher wrote: > > > > but no sound:-( > > Make sure you're in the audio group, because that's required as of F > 16. You may need to log out and back in to get it working. Yes, I > know that it's a stupid requireme

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/26/2012 01:34 AM, David G. Miller wrote: > You need to enable the service through systemctl. Here's a long discussion > that > looks at quite a few of the things that can affect getting rc.local > functional. > Quite a bit more to it than just putting a script there: Well I did noth

Re: minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:29:06 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > In another thread, > it was suggested that this bugzilla entry might be pertinent: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730007 > While I can certainly see the relationship, > it's not obviously the same thing. If you me

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread David G . Miller
Bruno Martins gmail.com> writes: > > Hello list, > > I can read here: > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html > > the following: > > 3.2.4. rc.local no longer packaged > You need to enable the service through s

Re: booting from DVD image on hard drive partition

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:28:43 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > I managed to boot from the F13, F14 and F15 install isos. > Still no go with F16. > > To boot F13, I needed to point at a partition > that was a copy of the F13 iso. > To boot F14 and F15, I needed to point at a > filesystem that

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/25/2012 02:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > F16, Gnome3. (sent also to gnome NM list) > > I am at a friend's house in Amsterdam trying to get connect to his > wireless and it is failing, so this message SHOULD go out when I get to > the KLM lounge tommorrow (that was working friday)... >

Re: NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:07:22 +0200 Robert Moskowitz wrote: [snipped problem description, request for feature] Please enter a bug report or a feature request. It's a way for you to influence change. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the > LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find? If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you

Fw: Help with sound on Fc16

2012-03-25 Thread stan
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:02:07 -0700 From: stan To: don fisher Subject: Re: Help with sound on Fc16 On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:52:20 -0700 don fisher wrote: > aplay another_brick_in_the_wall_part_2.wav > Playing WAVE 'another_brick_in_the_wall_part_2.wav' : Signed 16

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find? If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you ca

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your > help would be appreciated. What happens when you boot from a LiveCD? Joe, I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you

Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated. What happens when you boot from a LiveCD? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:

Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]

2012-03-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone, Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new ins

Re: rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On 25/03/12 15:57, Bruno Martins wrote: #exit 0 exit 0 -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/M

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/25/2012 02:48 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: as said i pointed not out the program, i was only angry that Joe Zeff does not shut up with his "Not all Fedora users run Gnome" to prove again his absent knowledge of anything Although you are a very knowledgeable person, you're also an arrogant, n

minimal install CD versus Pentium 4

2012-03-25 Thread Michael Hennebry
I've tried to install F16 using its minimal CD and its iso file. The CD will not boot. Has anyone gotten this combination to boot? Most recently I used tab and backspaced over quiet. Since I didn't have a running system running, I had to copy the result by hand: [1.429346] ---cut here--- kernel

rc.local not loaded on boot

2012-03-25 Thread Bruno Martins
Hello list, I can read here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html the following: 3.2.4. rc.local no longer packaged The |/etc/rc.d/rc.local| local customization script is no longer included by default. Administra

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers at runlevel3

2012-03-25 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:50:02 -0700 jdow wrote: > Reindl, the solution to Linux problems should not including spending a lot > of money on new hardware. No wonder Linux is not the leading desktop OS. Wrong list. You need to discuss that with Nvidia. It's not our choice that Nvidia and some other

Re: Tracker crashes

2012-03-25 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 20:30 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> On 08.03.2012, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >> >> > What is "Tracker" >> >> http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/ >> >> > and why is it crashing all the time?  Almost every >> > time I start

Re: a new question on iptables and port 5353

2012-03-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03:28 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: and - UDP is stateless, thus no "-m state --state NEW". While the UDP protocol is stateless, for iptables UDP isn't when matching on state. A flow is tracked so that inbound UDP packets are associated with recently sent outgoi

Re: Changing timezone configuration

2012-03-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 12:04 +0200, Maciek Borzecki wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Aaron Konstam > wrote: > ... > > Use: system-config-date > > -- > That doesn't really work without a $DISPLAY. As a matter of fact it > fails without warning that a X is required: That is certainly true

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 14:11, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Not fully finalised but try: >> yum install systemd-gtk >> It's a gui to the whole systemd thing. > > I yum-installed this, but couldn't see how to run it. > (It didn't appear to make any difference to system-config-services.) $ systemadm -

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Frank Murphy wrote: > Not fully finalised but try: > yum install systemd-gtk > It's a gui to the whole systemd thing. I yum-installed this, but couldn't see how to run it. (It didn't appear to make any difference to system-config-services.) -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net

Re: question on iptables, port 631 and CUPS

2012-03-25 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 19:18 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > If I try to reach a solution based on my limited knowledge, it would > seem that one would want to change the udp to have a 127.0.0.1 > sourceIP and a destinIP restricting to the LAN (I am assuming simple > home user usage where there's

Re: Changing timezone configuration

2012-03-25 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: ... > Use: system-config-date > -- That doesn't really work without a $DISPLAY. As a matter of fact it fails without warning that a X is required: [maciek@corsair:~]$ sudo system-config-date Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/shar

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2012 11:05, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> the answer to a question was "system-config-services" > > I must confess that I was not aware of this program. > In general I've found system-config-* programs - > in particular system-config-printer and system-config-netw

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On 25/03/12 10:05, Timothy Murphy wrote: Reindl Harald wrote: However, I just tried the program on my Fedora-16/KDE laptop, and it seems to be less than the complete answer. Enable, Disable and Start are greyed out on my system, and there does not appear to be a Status tab. Not fully final

Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?

2012-03-25 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote: > the answer to a question was "system-config-services" I must confess that I was not aware of this program. In general I've found system-config-* programs - in particular system-config-printer and system-config-network - are more likely to cause problems than solve them. In

Re: Compiling wine i686 on x86_64 system

2012-03-25 Thread Pasha R
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Fedora User wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:33:35 +0200 > Pasha R wrote: > >> > >> > Do you mind if I ask why? The 64-bit package works perfectly for >> > things like TweetDeck and Picassa. >> >> Latest 64-bit wine packages require their 32-bit counterparts to be

Re: a new question on iptables and port 5353

2012-03-25 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Paul Allen Newell wrote: > To all: > > With help from Craig and Reindl, I've understood what happens with the > automated entry of port 631 for udp/tcp and how to rewrite to not make > it a world access (in/out) rule. Waiting for next install of F16 to test > when and how the automated entry happe

Re: a new question on iptables and port 5353

2012-03-25 Thread Anthony Messina
On 03/25/2012 12:31 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > To all: > > With help from Craig and Reindl, I've understood what happens with the > automated entry of port 631 for udp/tcp and how to rewrite to not make > it a world access (in/out) rule. Waiting for next install of F16 to test > when and how t

NetworkManager serious usablity challenges

2012-03-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
F16, Gnome3. (sent also to gnome NM list) I am at a friend's house in Amsterdam trying to get connect to his wireless and it is failing, so this message SHOULD go out when I get to the KLM lounge tommorrow (that was working friday)... A major defiency is the loss of deleting SSID configurat