Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Jan2012 19:07, Dean S. Messing wrote: | On 13 Jan 2012 at 13:55:27, Cameron Simpson wrote: | | > The: | > | > | > form is handy for programmatically constructed pipelines, too. | | Sorry, I don't understand "programmatically constructed pipelines". | Would you elaborate? Thanks Where

Wireless laptop connection spontaneously disconnects and reconnects

2012-01-12 Thread Dean S. Messing
Since loading F15 on a brand new Dell M4600 Precision a short time ago, I'm seeing it spontaneously disconnect and reconnect to my home wireless system. Below are a few hours of entries in /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log from this afternoon. There's no way to know the exact times because there's no t

Re: Notecase for F-16 -

2012-01-12 Thread Fedora User
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:41:22 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > I've just installed F-16 but can't find a Notecase rpm for > Fedora 16. I have a very extensives set of notes that I rely > on in Notecase. > > What are my options? > There are Fedora RPM's on the NotecasePro

Re: Notecase for F-16 -

2012-01-12 Thread Timothy Davis
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > I've just installed F-16 but can't find a Notecase rpm for > Fedora 16. I have a very extensives set of notes that I rely on > in Notecase. > > What are my options? > > Bob > > > You can go to the website to

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Fedora User
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:00:09 -0500 "David A. De Graaf" wrote: > Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. > Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. > I was a tad frustrated with systemd for a time and realized that it was just an old-dog-new-trick issue. I'm an old fart. Once you f

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 13 Jan 2012 at 13:55:27, Cameron Simpson wrote: > The: > > > form is handy for programmatically constructed pipelines, too. Sorry, I don't understand "programmatically constructed pipelines". Would you elaborate? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Jan2012 20:34, Mark LaPierre wrote: | or you could do: | | nodevs=`fgrep rootfs /proc/filesystems` | | The only problem is that putting the command inside ticks launches a | child process that consumes additional resources. Shrug. So does: nodevs=$(fgrep rootfs /proc/filesystems) The:

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 12 Jan 2012 at 20:34:26, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 01/12/2012 02:13 PM, Anthony R Fletcher wrote: > > On 12 Jan 2012 at 14:02:50, Dean S. Messing wrote: > >> > >> In a system script I find this snippet > >> > >>nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems fgrep rootfs) > >> > >> and don't understand the sy

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 12 Jan 2012 14:13:53, Anthony R Fletcher wrote: > On 12 Jan 2012 at 14:02:50, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > > > In a system script I find this snippet > > > > nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems fgrep rootfs) > > > > and don't understand the syntax. According to the bash man page, > > > > $(< file

Re: Fc16 printer not running (Resolved)

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 11:04 AM, fred smith wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:02:40AM +1000, david walcroft wrote: On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote: No I used 'david', not root user. Well, that is your problem. A normal user isn't generally permi

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 11:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 09:02 AM, david walcroft wrote: Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges. I'm just a below average user. Close and Reopen your browser. You'll get the login prompt again. Yes that worked,I have set up my p

Notecase for F-16 -

2012-01-12 Thread Bob Goodwin
I've just installed F-16 but can't find a Notecase rpm for Fedora 16. I have a very extensives set of notes that I rely on in Notecase. What are my options? Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 01/12/2012 02:13 PM, Anthony R Fletcher wrote: On 12 Jan 2012 at 14:02:50, Dean S. Messing wrote: In a system script I find this snippet nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems fgrep rootfs) and don't understand the syntax. According to the bash man page, $(< file) is shorthand for $(cat file)

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 09:02 AM, david walcroft wrote: > Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges. > I'm just a below average user. Close and Reopen your browser. You'll get the login prompt again. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something complete

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread fred smith
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:02:40AM +1000, david walcroft wrote: > On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote: > >>No I used 'david', not root user. > > > >Well, that is your problem. A normal user isn't generally permitted to > >make system wide confi

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote: No I used 'david', not root user. Well, that is your problem. A normal user isn't generally permitted to make system wide configuration changes. Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote: > No I used 'david', not root user. Well, that is your problem. A normal user isn't generally permitted to make system wide configuration changes. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to unde

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 08:29 AM, david walcroft wrote: I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add printers errors to 'forbidden' When you "add printer" you get a login dialog. What user are you entering? I normally just use the "root" u

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:29 AM, david walcroft wrote: > I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add > printers errors to 'forbidden' When you "add printer" you get a login dialog. What user are you entering? I normally just use the "root" user for this. -- A common mistake that

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 10:17 AM, david walcroft wrote: On 01/13/2012 10:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote: bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found [david@reddwarf ~]$ Thanks david Sorry to confuse you with my use of "" Here is the actual example

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:17 AM, david walcroft wrote: > [david@reddwarf ~]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service > cups.service - CUPS Printing Service > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled) > Active: active (running) since Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:59:45 > +1000; 14min a

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 10:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote: bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found [david@reddwarf ~]$ Thanks david Sorry to confuse you with my use of "" Here is the actual example [egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 January 2012 20:00, David A. De Graaf wrote: > Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. > Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. > And most are not 'instabilities', not aware of any system release that hasn't had some problems, some are problems with particular programmes rat

Re: F16 and firewalld

2012-01-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > In F14 I'm used to editing /etc/sysconf/iptables, add my rules and run > service iptables restart to reload the rules. > > I assumed that the way to do it now was systemctl reload iptables.service. > This of course was wrong.  So I did a lit

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote: > bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found > [david@reddwarf ~]$ > > Thanks david Sorry to confuse you with my use of "" Here is the actual example [egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service cups.service - C

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 09:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/12/2012 03:32 PM, david walcroft wrote: I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install. The

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 09:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/13/2012 07:38 AM, david walcroft wrote: On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote: I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it installed as I thought it was

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 07:38 AM, david walcroft wrote: > On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote: >> I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print >> so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it >> installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal i

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/12/2012 03:32 PM, david walcroft wrote: I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install. The hplip package is only needed if you're u

Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote: I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install. I get this error on using systemctl. [david@re

Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft
I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install. I get this error on using systemctl. [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Personally, I think NM tries to do too much; > I would much prefer an application that just dealt with WiFi. Really, wired connections require absolutely nothing extra that NetworkManager wouldn't have to deal with for wifi connections, so

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/12/2012 02:35 PM, Michael Hannon wrote: I'm beginning to think that resistance is futile and have started to accept the inevitability of NM. Only if you're being Borged. IMAO, it's far more accurate to shout, "Resistance is USELESS!" along with the Vogons. Seriously, as I don't use it

F16 and firewalld

2012-01-12 Thread Paolo Galtieri
In F14 I'm used to editing /etc/sysconf/iptables, add my rules and run service iptables restart to reload the rules. I assumed that the way to do it now was systemctl reload iptables.service. This of course was wrong. So I did a little googleing. There apparently is a new firewall daemon firewal

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Hannon
> From: Joe Zeff >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:46 AM Hi, Joe. > My desktop doesn't use NM, and for a very good reason: it nuked my DNS > numbers every time I rebooted until I permanently disabled it.  I've not had > a single issue of that kind since I went back to using network. I'm be

Re: Support for onscreen keyboard

2012-01-12 Thread g
On 01/12/2012 07:25 PM, Kyle Pablo wrote: <> hi kyle. i wish i could help you with your problem, but i can not and leave that to other readers of this 'tsl'. to help you reach more subscribers, i will make a suggestion, put list name, users@lists.fedoraproject.org, in "To:" field. what ever yo

Samsung printer won't print

2012-01-12 Thread Jim
Fedora 16-i386 Can't get Samsung printer to print, Error Log Messages below. Samsung CLX3170. D [12/Jan/2012:17:08:34 -0500] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty files", busy="Active clients and dirty files" D [12/Jan/2012:17:08:34 -0500] cupsdReadClient: 16 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [12/Jan/2012:17:08:34

Re: Log not rotating in Fedora 16.

2012-01-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > On 2012-01-12 22:13, William Case wrote: >> Hi; >> I get the following warning on boot up "The volume "File system root" >> has only 249.6 MiB disk space remaining".  I think I have traced the >> problem to syslog not rotating. Messages-xx

Re: Log not rotating in Fedora 16.

2012-01-12 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
On 2012-01-12 22:13, William Case wrote: > Hi; > I get the following warning on boot up "The volume "File system root" > has only 249.6 MiB disk space remaining". I think I have traced the > problem to syslog not rotating. Messages-x in /var/log/ is up to 1.4 > + GiB. How would you suggest I

Log not rotating in Fedora 16.

2012-01-12 Thread William Case
Hi; I get the following warning on boot up "The volume "File system root" has only 249.6 MiB disk space remaining". I think I have traced the problem to syslog not rotating. Messages-x in /var/log/ is up to 1.4 + GiB. How would you suggest I get the proper log rotation? Or, where else do you

Re: fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 01/12/2012 11:25 AM, Roger K. Wells wrote: On 01/12/2012 10:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 09:40 -0500, Roger K. Wells wrote: * Using the HPLIP Device Manager application Did you install the hplip package supplied as part of Fedora, or did you install it from HP's HPL

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Timothy Murphy wrote: This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, but this seemed to fail at both ends (Linux and TV). Have you not tried the "native" Linux version of Picasa provided by Google? (native being in quotes because Google

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Pete Travis wrote: I personally prefer 'fuppes' because of it's ability to transcode videos on the fly using ffmpeg. Mediatomb also allows on-the-fly transcoding. I use it (with ffmpeg) to transcode FLAC to PCM and MKV to MPEG-TS for the playstation 3. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Anthony R Fletcher
On 12 Jan 2012 at 14:02:50, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > In a system script I find this snippet > > nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems fgrep rootfs) > > and don't understand the syntax. According to the bash man page, > > $(< file) is shorthand for $(cat file). But then the above should read > >

How (or why) does this bash script snippet work?

2012-01-12 Thread Dean S. Messing
In a system script I find this snippet nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems fgrep rootfs) and don't understand the syntax. According to the bash man page, $(< file) is shorthand for $(cat file). But then the above should read nodevs=$(< /proc/filesystems | fgrep rootfs) However, the latter leav

Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?

2012-01-12 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM, "Armelius Cameron" wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 01:25:40 PM linux guy wrote: > > It turns out the gparted can copy partitions. > > http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/03/copy-partitions-with-gparted/ > > > > I'm not 100% sure that I am going to need Windows. I won

Re: Dual boot on SSD. No Windows disks. How ?

2012-01-12 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 01:25:40 PM linux guy wrote: > It turns out the gparted can copy partitions. > http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/03/copy-partitions-with-gparted/ > > I'm not 100% sure that I am going to need Windows. I won't know until > I buy a piece of software and attempt to run it

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 12, 2012 10:29 AM, "Lucélio Gomes de Freitas" wrote: > > Hi timothy, > > Em 12-01-2012 12:07, Timothy Murphy escreveu: > > Emilio Lopez wrote: > > > I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). > This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. > I tri

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Lucélio Gomes de Freitas : More work to set up but very easy to use is something like this: make a new partition using gparted format the partition as NTFS, a Windows format put your photos in the new partition read them from windows as a new drive, E: or G: or whatever This allows r

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Hi timothy, Em 12-01-2012 12:07, Timothy Murphy escreveu: > Emilio Lopez wrote: > I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, >> What about installing windows in virtua

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Emilio Lopez wrote: >>> I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). >>> This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. >>> I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, > > What about installing windows in virtualbox and using shared folder > functionality to allow windows t

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Reindl Harald wrote: >> I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). >> This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. >> I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, >> but this seemed to fail at both ends (Linux and TV) > > i can not imagine how the TV will access a partit

Re: Setting SAMBA's file attribute on Selinux.

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:44:52 -0500, LGDF (Lucélio) wrote: > > Install the latest available package: > > > > sudo yum install policycoreutils-gui > Worked fine. I did not omit the version-release.arch because, after a > "man samba_selinux" I found the tool: >

Re: Setting SAMBA's file attribute on Selinux.

2012-01-12 Thread Lucélio Gomes de Freitas
Michael Schwendt, Thank you for your reply. Em 12-01-2012 04:35, Michael Schwendt escreveu: > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:19:52 -0500, LGDF (Lucélio) wrote: > >> Trying to set extended attributes(samba_share_t ) to shared files on >> SAMBA for selinux to work, I decided to use >> policycoreutils-gui-2

Re: fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 01/12/2012 10:54 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 09:40 -0500, Roger K. Wells wrote: * Using the HPLIP Device Manager application Did you install the hplip package supplied as part of Fedora, or did you install it from HP's HPLIP website? I did it as part of Fedora Some

Re: fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 01/12/2012 10:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Please don't hijack threads. Your message is unrelated to the one you replied to. You should compose a fresh message rather than a reply. Changing the Subject line is not enough. poc oops, sorry. I didn't know that -- Roger Wells, P.E. SAIC 2

Re: fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 09:40 -0500, Roger K. Wells wrote: > * Using the HPLIP Device Manager application Did you install the hplip package supplied as part of Fedora, or did you install it from HP's HPLIP website? Some tips on diagnosing problems of the type you describe are on the wiki:

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 11/01/12 10:47 PM, John De Graw wrote: > I have the computer wired to a hub which is wired to the router. Three > other computers (wireless & wired) are going through the same router and > having no difficulties. When I run the "ifconfig" command in terminal > it says it is up and connected.

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 12/01/12 7:07 AM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 10:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Note that you also need to configure NM to manage your interface, >> otherwise NM will report it as offline even when it's online > > Don't you mean deliberately configure network manager to be NOT m

Re: fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Please don't hijack threads. Your message is unrelated to the one you replied to. You should compose a fresh message rather than a reply. Changing the Subject line is not enough. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic said: > On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: > > if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, > > you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" > > when yum/rpm adds a new program that needs to be assigned

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Timothy Davis
On 01/12/2012 10:07 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.01.2012 15:42, schrieb Ed Greshko: Come on people.. Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created? Isn't there a word for that? yes, it is known as "bu

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Joachim Backes wrote: Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? $ man 5 shadow ... /etc/shadow- Backup file for /etc/shadow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2012 15:42, schrieb Ed Greshko: > Come on people.. > > Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances > and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created? > > Isn't there a word for that? yes, it is known as "buggy" signature.asc Description:

Re: Power Button initiates immediate shutdown procedure

2012-01-12 Thread Matt Harrison
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > when I press the computer's power button my F16 system immediately starts the > shutdown procedure. Even if I'm logged in (Gnome3) all my programs are shut > down without further notice. > > > With F14 Gnome used to show a shutdown di

Re: Power Button initiates immediate shutdown procedure

2012-01-12 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > when I press the computer's power button my F16 system immediately starts the > shutdown procedure. Even if I'm logged in (Gnome3) all my programs are shut > down without further notice. > > > With F14 Gnome used to show a shutdown di

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Rares Aioanei
On 01/12/2012 04:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Come on people.. Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created? Isn't there a word for that? Err...troll? Of course. Wasted time. -- Rares Aioanei -- users mai

F16 concurrency problem between network and sshd service

2012-01-12 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi, This is a problem which started to show up today. After reboot, sshd failed to listen on my local IPv6 address. I have a static network configuration using the network init script. I have a sshd configuration which defines various ListenAddresses in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, like this: # loca

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
he was speaking about "/etc/shadow-" and NOT "/etc/shadow" and yes i am sure they are backups Whoops, right you are! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http

Power Button initiates immediate shutdown procedure

2012-01-12 Thread Felix Schwarz
Hi, when I press the computer's power button my F16 system immediately starts the shutdown procedure. Even if I'm logged in (Gnome3) all my programs are shut down without further notice. With F14 Gnome used to show a shutdown dialog where I could prevent the system from powering down. I tried t

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Come on people.. Don't you just hate it when someone puts out a list of vague grievances and then doesn't engage in the conversation they've created? Isn't there a word for that? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: converting base64 emails back to text

2012-01-12 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/11/2012 11:57 PM, g wrote: >On 01/10/2012 06:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I've not searched for any existing utility since I keep all of my emails >> on an imap server and text based searches from email clients work just >> fine as the un-encoding is done behind the scenes and I've never fo

fedora 16 printer problem

2012-01-12 Thread Roger K. Wells
hello, * I have installed fedora 16 on a new TP X220 to replace fedora 14 on a TP X200. * The two systems are intended to be equivalent until I switch over exclusively to the X220. * Using the HPLIP Device Manager application I installed the same hp network connected printers, two w

[solved] flashing wireless light

2012-01-12 Thread Brian Ericson
On the off-chance this might save someone else some time... If you, like me, hate a flashing wireless light and have been relying on led_mode=1 to silence it, the option changed (for me, at least) with 3.1.7. I'd previously used "options iwlagn led_mode=1" in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlagn.conf. Wit

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Emilio Lopez
>> I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). >> This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. >> I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, What about installing windows in virtualbox and using shared folder functionality to allow windows to read your pictures folder E

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 01/11/2012 06:41 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: The only real problems I've had with f16 is the one recently discussed in another thread about the kernel problem with heavy disk I/O from one process bogging down everything else on the system. I was using mencoder the other day to convert a .wmv file t

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2012 14:23, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > I recently acquired a Samsung Smart TV (model D5520). > This has a facility for looking at photos on a PC using Picasa. > I tried briefly using Picasa under Wine, > but this seemed to fail at both ends (Linux and TV) i can not imagine how the TV wil

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Alan Cox
> > - The worst aspect of Fedora 16 is it has made computing a stochastic > >process. Instead of the rock-solid behaviour of previous releases, > >Fedora 16 behaves randomly. On the specific boxes you have (not a statistically valid sample). On my boxes for example 16 is way better than 1

Re: Moodle on Fedora 16

2012-01-12 Thread Ester Muñoz Aparicio
El 12/01/12 15:02, Remi escribió: Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for it, and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any repo, so well, here I am now. zip extension have been removed from fedora php packages because of an Guidelines violation

Re: Fedora 16 instabilities

2012-01-12 Thread Rares Aioanei
On 01/11/2012 10:00 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: Here's why Fedora 16 isn't ready for prime time. Many of these have been BZ'd, without effect. - I won't even discuss the gnome3 controversy. I've used xfce for many years and am very happy with it. Good for you. - The worst aspect of Fedora

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Joachim Backes
On 01/12/2012 02:32 PM, Lewis Handy wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is any Windows application that allows one > to read and write files on a Fedora partition? > (As of course one can do in the opposite direction.) > > > ext2ifs is what I use on any dual

Re: Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Lewis Handy
> > > I'm wondering if there is any Windows application that allows one > to read and write files on a Fedora partition? > (As of course one can do in the opposite direction.) > > ext2ifs is what I use on any dual boot systems I have -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Reading Linux files from Windows?

2012-01-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
I have a dual boot system on my laptop - Fedora-16 and Windows XP. I'm wondering if there is any Windows application that allows one to read and write files on a Fedora partition? (As of course one can do in the opposite direction.) Before advising me to wash my mouth out with soap and water, all

Re: Moodle on Fedora 16

2012-01-12 Thread Remi
> Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for > it, > and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any > repo, so well, here I am now. zip extension have been removed from fedora php packages because of an Guidelines violation (about bundled Libraries), a

More on date/time format problems

2012-01-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
WRT my system's date/time display on the top panel changing to 24hr format. I just finally realized that when I lock my system, the date/time on the top panel is in the 24hr format and when I unlock it it switches back to the selected AP/PM format. So what is PROBABLY happening is one time I

Moodle on Fedora 16

2012-01-12 Thread Ester Muñoz Aparicio
Hello list members! I'm having a hard time trying to make moodle work on my Fedora 16. Few days ago I got the greatest news: one of my clients is moving to Moodle and that means a lot of work for this year. The Moodle server will be in their headquarters and someone will take care of it, so no

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.01.2012 12:52, schrieb Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak: > On 01/12/2012 12:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files >> never removed: >> >> /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- >> >> Question: are these files only created for back

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Lewis Handy
> > adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files > never removed: > > /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- > > Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there > another reason for this? > > > Looking at a system I have recently added users to the /ect/passw

Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?

2012-01-12 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/12/2012 12:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all, adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files never removed: /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? /etc/passwd is world-reada

Re: Printer detection in Fedora

2012-01-12 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 22:09 -0500, fred smith wrote: > here's the result of lpinfo -l -v on linux mint 12. I see it actually > identified several ways to access the brother printer. It doesn't, > however, seem to have figured out that the printer also supports ipp > (unless maybe I don't know how t

Re: no internet connection with Fedora16

2012-01-12 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 10:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Note that you also need to configure NM to manage your interface, > otherwise NM will report it as offline even when it's online Don't you mean deliberately configure network manager to be NOT managing an interface that it doesn't act

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 01/12/2012 10:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" when yum/rpm adds a new program that needs to be assigned an i

Re: Setting SAMBA's file attribute on Selinux.

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:19:52 -0500, LGDF (Lucélio) wrote: > Trying to set extended attributes(samba_share_t ) to shared files on > SAMBA for selinux to work, I decided to use > policycoreutils-gui-2.1.4-3.fc16.x86_64 but: > > == > [Lucel

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 12 January 2012 05:53:42 g wrote: > if you compare "/etc/shadow" to "/etc/shadow.rpmnew" when it is there, > you will see that yum/rpm has added a program's name to "/etc/shadow" > when yum/rpm adds a new program that needs to be assigned an id. > > this also happens to "/etc/group", "

Re: Yum is updating /etc/shadow?

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/12/2012 01:56 PM, g wrote: > On 01/12/2012 02:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > <> > >> I saw the same message just now But no /etc/shadow.rpmnew was >> created and the /etc/shadow file was not touched. > -=- > > where you updating same package? > > could be you two have found a bug with yum/rp