Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
In doing more experimenting with find, I discovered that / is evidently fstype "rootfs", whatever that is. Looking in /etc/mtab I see: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 and /dev/mapper/vg00-lv_root / ext4 rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,stripe=32,data=ordered 0 0 In fact, find / -fst

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 9:53pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Ok, so per my test suggestion, what does: > > find / \! -fstype ext4 -print -prune > > show? It prints just the root. (I.e. "/" appears alone on a line.) What is that saying? > Is it useful to go: > > find / \! -type d -fstype ext4

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 5:32pm Linux guy wrote: > I wonder if it would make a difference if I installed directly and > then tried to boot. It very well might. It's what I would do, but that's because I have no experience booting from a USB device. I also have little experience dual booting so you

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 5:31pm, Linux guy wrote: > I get the boot parameters when I press Tab with grub2. Fedora 15 uses grub1. I know nothing about using grub2. > Here is what its using. > vmlinuz0 initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID= rootfstype=vfat ro > live img quiet rhgb rd.luks=0 rd.md=

Re: Very frustrated with F16

2012-01-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 19:30 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > Couldn't find the config-editor program. I did fix the problem using > the gnome-tweak-tool program. > > Paolo I am sorry thwat was a typo. It is condiguration editor under system tools. It i called gconf-editor from the command line > >

Re: Fedora 15 x64 stunning performance (vs Win7).

2012-01-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/06/2012 04:35 PM, Quicksort wrote: Hardware platform: Dell Studio XPS, Core i7 950, 8Mb L3 Cache. Operating systems: Fedora 15 x64 / Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Hi everybody, I have developed a sorting/searching library written in assembly language. As long as one stays in the L1 Cache (in pla

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 16:04, Dean S. Messing wrote: | On 06 January 2012 at 15:59pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > It is also worth noting that your find may not find nested ext4 mounts. | > Supposing an ext4 mount point is mounted inside an ext3 mount? Your | > prune will prevent find from descending deep en

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
I got it to boot further by selecting "start in basic graphics mode" under Troubleshooting options in grub2. However, it hangs when starting KDE. However, I am able to command line session going. I am able to log in as liveuser. I am able to su to root. Now what should I do ? How do I do the

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 15:50, Dean S. Messing wrote: | On 06 January, 2012 at 3:47pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing wrote: | > | On my F13 machine, | > | | > | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | > | | > | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mount

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I got it to boot further by selecting "start in basic graphics mode" under Troubleshooting options in grub2. However, it hangs when starting KDE. However, I am able to command line session going. I am able to log in as liveuser. I am able to su to root. Now what should I do ? How do I do the

Fedora 15 x64 stunning performance (vs Win7).

2012-01-06 Thread Quicksort
Hardware platform: Dell Studio XPS, Core i7 950, 8Mb L3 Cache. Operating systems: Fedora 15 x64 / Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Hi everybody, I have developed a sorting/searching library written in assembly language. As long as one stays in the L1 Cache (in place physical sorts) speeds are identical, b

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I wonder if it would make a difference if I installed directly and then tried to boot. Are you dual booting ? Thanks, BTW, for taking the time to reply to my thread. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I get the boot parameters when I press Tab with grub2. Here is what its using. vmlinuz0 initrd=initrd0.img root=live:UUID= rootfstype=vfat ro live img quiet rhgb rd.luks=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 Should I change anything ? The BIOS has no option to turn off Optimus. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
> On 06 January 2012 at 6:17pm, Alan J. Gagne wrote: > > What video card are you using with the i5 server. > > > > Not sure if this is your issue but I just did a lot of research before > > buying a new 17" laptop and avoided systems with Nvidia video that had > > the Optimus technology. Seems t

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
> What video card does your M4600 have and which spin (x86, x86_64, KDE, > etc) did you install ? Video card: Quadro 1000M (and the Nvidia binary driver built via akmod) Spin: Fedora-15-x86_64-DVD.iso I also customised during installation so I have all the same tools and libs). I am runnin

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I double checked the order. Optimus is not available with the 3D laptops. Item Number QuantityItem Description 225-0587 1 XPS 17 312-1182 1 90 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Thanks for the reply. The laptop has the 3D screen and does NOT have the optimus card. As far as I know, its a plain "NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB" graphics card. How could I run lspci prior to booting to find out ? With grub2, is there a way to force a graphical boot that wouldn't invoke the er

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 15:59pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 07Jan2012 08:28, I wrote: > | On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing wrote: > | | On my F13 machine, > | | > | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print > | | > | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and p

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
What video card does your M4600 have and which spin (x86, x86_64, KDE, etc) did you install ? Did the Live spins run on your laptop ? Did you install from a Live spin or directly ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
Thanks for the reply. The laptop has the 3D screen and does NOT have the optimus card. As far as I know, its a plain "NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M 3GB" graphics card. How could I run lspci prior to booting to find out ? With grub2, is there a way to force a graphical boot that wouldn't invoke the err

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January 2012 at 6:17pm, Alan J. Gagne wrote: > What video card are you using with the i5 server. > > Not sure if this is your issue but I just did a lot of research before > buying a new 17" laptop and avoided systems with Nvidia video that had > the Optimus technology. Seems there is a

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 06 January, 2012 at 3:47pm, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing wrote: > | On my F13 machine, > | > | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print > | > | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes > | those in any other type of fs. > |

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Jan2012 08:28, I wrote: | On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing wrote: | | On my F13 machine, | | | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes | | those in any other type of fs. | | | | On my F15 the same

RE: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread Alan J. Gagne
I have a new Dell XPS17 laptop. (i7, 16 GB RAM, nvidia 555 video device, Windows 7 installed) I am trying to run F16-x86_64-Live-KDE on it via a USB flash device. It find the USB device. grub(2) runs. I can select the kernel. It starts the boot process. It hangs with the following message:

Re: Yum update/bug alert

2012-01-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:39:54 -0500, RM (Robert) wrote: > I want to know that MY system has updates needed to apply, not there has > been updates announced. This is what we have tools like YUM for. It could be you're also facing some of the issues discussed in the following thread: http://lists.

Re: "find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2012 12:43, Dean S. Messing wrote: | On my F13 machine, | | find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print | | prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes | those in any other type of fs. | | On my F15 the same command prints nothing. Why might that be? Is

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Pointing out that he was expressing his opinion as though it were a proven fact was OK; we all do it on occasion, and deserve to be called on it. Doing it in a way that was almost certain to offend him was going too far, especially when you're claiming to be

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/06/2012 01:06 PM, Claude Jones wrote: read his words, Joe - he didn't express the matter as an opinion, but as a proclamation; the phrasing is precisely the kind of sophomoric posturing that leads to endless disputes ...and that you found offensive, even when there was no sign that he in

Re: F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I forgot to say... THANKS ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraprojec

F16-X86_64-Live-KDE won't boot on XPS 17

2012-01-06 Thread linux guy
I have a new Dell XPS17 laptop. (i7, 16 GB RAM, nvidia 555 video device, Windows 7 installed) I am trying to run F16-x86_64-Live-KDE on it via a USB flash device. It find the USB device. grub(2) runs. I can select the kernel. It starts the boot process. It hangs with the following message: u

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 3:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: just because he has the temerity to express an opinion other than yours read his words, Joe - he didn't express the matter as an opinion, but as a proclamation; the phrasing is precisely the kind of sophomoric posturing that leads to endless disputes - as I

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/06/2012 12:26 PM, Claude Jones wrote: On 1/6/2012 2:48 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Forums, when implemented properly, are superior to any kind of mailing list. silly flamer, next time I want your opinion, I'll give you one - what on earth is the point of such a post? you're welcome

"find" problem

2012-01-06 Thread Dean S. Messing
On my F13 machine, find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print prints every file that is in an ext4 filesystem mounted on /, and prunes those in any other type of fs. On my F15 the same command prints nothing. Why might that be? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 12:55 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 11:44 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This happens once in a while, but this is the 2nd time this week, though the symtoms were different. The latest occurance, I locked the screen and came back later to use the system. I h

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/6/2012 2:48 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Forums, when implemented properly, are superior to any kind of mailing list. silly flamer, next time I want your opinion, I'll give you one - what on earth is the point of such a post? you're welcome to that view, but, not to impose it (by imp

Re: gscan2pdf problem [SOLVED]

2012-01-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/06/2012 01:42 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > On 01/06/2012 11:36 AM, Steven Stern wrote: >> I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. > >> When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but >> no content is transferred into it. > >> Sca

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> I participate in no web forums, because they're such a pain. And I've > >> yet to see a single one to convince me otherwise. > > (insert word "able" between "one" and "to") > > Joe Zeff: > > And as long as you never look, you never will. >

Re: gscan2pdf problem

2012-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/06/2012 11:36 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. > > When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but > no content is transferred into it. > > Scanning from xsa

Re: About expelling "Linda" and similar people

2012-01-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.01.2012, M. Fioretti wrote: > Please don't embarass yourself by replying to messages without reading > them entirely. Had you actually read what I posted, you would know > very well that: [] Do what you want. I don't care. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 11:44 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > This happens once in a while, but this is the 2nd time this week, though > the symtoms were different. > > The latest occurance, I locked the screen and came back > later to use the system. I hit an arrow key which normally brings up

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 01:28 PM, Pete Travis wrote: I've noticed that occasionally the authentication box doesn't come up, but you can still type in your password and press enter to unlock the session. I suspect killing the screensaver process from another tty would get you in as well. h. Co

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Pete Travis
I've noticed that occasionally the authentication box doesn't come up, but you can still type in your password and press enter to unlock the session. I suspect killing the screensaver process from another tty would get you in as well. I haven't bothered to track down the cause, but I know the issu

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:03:19AM -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > Everyone, > > > > I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have > > not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken > > gi

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/06/2012 12:35 PM, Ian Chapman wrote: On 01/07/2012 12:44 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But now my question is: does anyone have a notebook with a sealed battery and if so, how do they recover when nothing works? When you cannot switch to another console and the power button does nothing? Ho

gscan2pdf problem

2012-01-06 Thread Steven Stern
I have an HP 8500 printer/scanner and am trying to scan from gscan2pdf. When I initiate a scan, the paper is fed from the document feeder, but no content is transferred into it. Scanning from xsane works as expected. Any ideas? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Ian Chapman
On 01/07/2012 12:44 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: But now my question is: does anyone have a notebook with a sealed battery and if so, how do they recover when nothing works? When you cannot switch to another console and the power button does nothing? How do you force a boot if you can't pull all

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.01.2012 17:41, schrieb Jim: > There is still a lot 32 apps out there you can't run on a 64 bit install. > That is why I went back to 32 bit apps on my 32/64 box. this is simply an urban legend you can install ANY 32bit app und x86_64 fedora and you can install ANY 32bit library with "yum

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jim wrote: > There is still a lot 32 apps out there you can't run on a 64 bit install. > That is why I went back to 32 bit apps on my 32/64 box. I haven't run into any 32 bit app that didn't work, but you do have to have the appropriate 32-bit libs installed. A c

f16 - locked out again

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This happens once in a while, but this is the 2nd time this week, though the symtoms were different. The latest occurance, I locked the screen and came back later to use the system. I hit an arrow key which normally brings up the password dialog box and even before the box showed up I starte

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Jim
On 01/06/2012 09:48 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: On 06/01/12 03:59, John Wendel wrote: I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I install a 64-bit kernel and leave the userland 32-bit? Thanks, John The short answer as far as I know is NO! Unless you have

Re: users Digest, Vol 95, Issue 31

2012-01-06 Thread Timothy Davis
On 01/06/2012 07:00 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Subject: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system From: John Wendel Date: 01/05/2012 10:59 PM To: Community support for Fedora users I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I inst

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:03:19AM -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > Everyone, > > > > I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have > > not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken > > gi

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 14:23 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 06/01/12 13:40, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > My answer would be: This will probably work, but it's likely not going > > to gain you anything that the 32-bit kernel with PAE cannot do. > > > > Would that depend on whether 4+ mb of r

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 06/01/12 03:59, John Wendel wrote: > I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I > install a 64-bit kernel and leave the userland 32-bit? > > Thanks, > > John > The short answer as far as I know is NO! Unless you have 32bit applications that specifically requ

Re: [389-users] Problem with ds setup

2012-01-06 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/06/2012 12:57 AM, Israel Nelken wrote: Update: Guillaume's suggestion to comment out the nss-related lines works - thanks! However, it seems that there is a bug? Yes. Sounds like a bug in mod_nss. I'm currently replacing a number of computers in my lab with new ones, and the issue com

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/01/12 13:40, Stephen Gallagher wrote: My answer would be: This will probably work, but it's likely not going to gain you anything that the 32-bit kernel with PAE cannot do. Would that depend on whether 4+ mb of ram? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 13:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Louis Lagendijk wrote: > > >> I can start openvpn with > >> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service > >> (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , > >> which I think is more or less standard.) > >> > >> Bu

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 09:07 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > On 01/06/2012 09:02 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > >> ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ > >> /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service > > > > This is incorrect: you will have to provide the name of the > > config

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/06/2012 09:02 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service This is incorrect: you will have to provide the name of the configuration to start as part of the service name See myprevious mail: openvpn@myconfig.serv

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Everyone, > > I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have > not figured out how to do this yet. I tried alacarte, but it is broken > giving me a message that gmenu has not been installed. There is no > gmenu to i

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 08:55 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > On 01/05/2012 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I can start openvpn with > > [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service > > (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , > > which I think is more or les

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/05/2012 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I get [tim@blanche

Re: Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

2012-01-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 01:38 -0500, bruce wrote: > are you saying you want a 32 bit and a 64 bit os to run side by side, > ie to boot in one, and then the other, with different partitions? > > or are you asking to run a mix of 32/64 apps? > > can you clarify what you're looking to accomplish? It

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.01.2012 12:40, schrieb Louis Lagendijk: > Do you want to run as client or as server? uninteresting because only the openvpn-config makes the difference running the service as server or client > Clients are run from NetworkManager you will wonder but there are people out there which uni

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Louis Lagendijk wrote: >> I can start openvpn with >> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service >> (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , >> which I think is more or less standard.) >> >> But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I get >> [tim@blanche ~]

Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16

2012-01-06 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 01:10 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I can start openvpn with > [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service > (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , > which I think is more or less standard.) > > But I don't know how to turn it on permanently,

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-06 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I participate in no web forums, because they're such a pain. And I've >> yet to see a single one to convince me otherwise. (insert word "able" between "one" and "to") Joe Zeff: > And as long as you never look, you never will. I said "participate." Of course I've *seen* forums, that's h

Re: About expelling "Linda" and similar people

2012-01-06 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 11:56 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > I don't read or even browse every single email/topic that comes > through, so I dont' know anything bout this Linda person. Is there a > particular thread/convo she took part (so I can go back and check the > archives) in that describes wha

Re: [OT] Hybrid 64/32 kernel ???

2012-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/06/2012 03:52 AM, John Wendel wrote: > Sorry if this is too off topic, but it's bugging me and I can't > find it on Google ... > > I saw a post/web page somewhere (can't find it now) that seemed to > say that some kernel gods were working on a kernel with a "new" > memory model (which I d

Re: Adding Menu items in gnome3 of F16

2012-01-06 Thread Shibi
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Everyone, > > I would like to add some simple menu items in gnome3 of F16, and have > not figured out how to do this yet.  I tried alacarte, but it is broken > giving me a message that gmenu has not been installed.  There is no > gmenu to i