Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Peter Gordon
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote: > Now, let me comment on this once again. > RH and RH-controlled Fedora constitute >[...] >it is time to blink and reconstitute RH-controlled Fedora project >for the new goal. Allow me to correct this misconception right now: Red Hat does not control Fe

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Tim
Linux Tyro: >> Sharing /home would, I guess not a problem, since I would be giving >> different user names in each distributions. Joe Zeff: > You guess wrong, I think. Linux doesn't keep track of users by their > username, but by their userid. That means that all of your users would > have the

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/24/2011 06:07 PM, Chris Tyler wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 11:48 -0500, Linux Tyro wrote: >> Hi, >> >> As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM >> and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as >> follows:- >> >> Fedora - 20 GB - installing i

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 10:31 PM, Linux Tyro wrote: > Sharing /home would, I guess not a problem, since I would be giving > different user names in each distributions. You guess wrong, I think. Linux doesn't keep track of users by their username, but by their userid. That means that all of your users wou

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread JB
Craig White azapple.com> writes: > > On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote: > > The above mentioned stats (see other thread) reflect that; that they show > > almost half of Fedora sites migrated to other distros/OSs is not so > > surprsising considering its "test system OS" state, but that

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Linux Tyro
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > What is the purpose for doing all of this?  Is it just to play with each > distro?  That is, not really work?  If that is the case, then maybe > you'd be better off using one distro and then having VM's for the others. Well the purpose is to k

Re: Printer problem Samsung CLX-3170

2011-11-24 Thread Jim
On 11/23/2011 04:23 PM, mike cloaked wrote: /usr/lib/cups/filter/ a usr/lib/cups/filter/ has the rastertosamsungsplc and rastertosamsungspl in it and permissions are the same as other execute files. /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Samsung/ I put the CLX3170splc.ppd.gz (driver for

Re: Can't increase screen resolution (F16, KDE)

2011-11-24 Thread Burkhard Plache
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:27, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2011 10:10:43 John Aldrich wrote: >> I have Fedora 16 with a 19" flat-panel screen capable of 1280x1024, >> however, Fedora / KDE seems to not realize my monitor is capable of this >> resolution, and only offers a max

Re: Fedora - time to blink-XFCE question

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 03:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Certainly not. Or perhaps specific to whatever software you refer to. > Commands like /usr/bin/eject ("man eject") can open the tray also for > unmounted media. XFCE doesn't offer Eject as an option in the context menu for an audio CD unless it'

Re: can Thunderbird be configured to pick Fedora system mail?

2011-11-24 Thread Claude Jones
On 11/23/2011 10:14 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Claude Jones > wrote: >> > Subject says it all. I have messages coming to my user logon but I can't >> > figure out a way to get Thunderbird to retrieve them. I could do it with >> > KMail, but that's broken f

fedora 16 64 bits gnome shutdown button

2011-11-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Alexander Volovics upcmail.nl> writes: > Yes, a bug. > But you can work around it for the moment by adding a 'picture' > to your account. Click on your name, click on the picture button > next to your name and add one of the 'pictures'. > If you do this the extension keeps working after logout/lo

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:25 +, JB wrote: > The above mentioned stats (see other thread) reflect that; that they show > almost half of Fedora sites migrated to other distros/OSs is not so > surprsising considering its "test system OS" state, but that a similar size > flight affected RH products

Re: Display resolution problems

2011-11-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 12:47 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: > I just did a fresh install of Fedora 16 on my system which has an integrated > Geforce video card ( GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a/PCI/SSE2) and I *know* my > monitor (flat panel 19" Dell LCD) is capable of 1280x1024, but I can't seem > to >

Re: Fedora - time to blink-XFCE question

2011-11-24 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 24.11.2011, 11:13 -0600 schrieb Aaron Konstam: > Why does XFCE insist you mount a Audio CD before you play it since we > all know that Audio CDs are not mounted in the usual meaning of the > term? It doesn't, exo-mount even refuses to mount it. What player are you referring to?

Re: Fedora - time to blink-XFCE question

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:00:17 -0800, JZ (Joe) wrote: > On 11/24/2011 09:13 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Why does XFCE insist you mount a Audio CD before you play it since we > > all know that Audio CDs are not mounted in the usual meaning of the > > term? > > Actually, it doesn't, although it may

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread JB
Maciek Borzecki gmail.com> writes: > ... Dear trolls (yes, I address it to you as well), get out from under your bridge (happy turkey, btw) and read this: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2021&mode=67 ... 7 • gnome and unity (by Thomas on 2011-11-21 11:22:56 GMT from Germany) ... 39

Re: Speeding up boot (was: Fedora - time to blink)

2011-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 23 November 2011 22:20, Ian Malone wrote: > > This trick from Lennart's article might be useful: > $ systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg > $ eog plot.svg > > (For instance I have to figure out why netfs and iscsi are being > started on my machine.) > > Overall speed, I did a RAM upgrade to my mach

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/25/2011 12:48 AM, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hi, > > As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM > and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as > follows:- > > Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB) > openSUSE - 10 GB installing with /root (

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 11/23/2011 03:57 AM, JB wrote: >> After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results: >> >> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html >> >> The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain a >> test >> system

Re: OT: gather hardware information over network

2011-11-24 Thread Frank Pikelner
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Hiisi wrote: > On 24 November 2011 01:15, Frank Pikelner wrote: > <--SNIP--> >> >> You may want to try Versiera as setup would only be a few minutes. >> Create an account, download and install the agents. It is simple and >> would collect all the info you require,

Re: F16 kde plasma crashes - occasional

2011-11-24 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > > Have you tried updates-testing?  There is an update that is supposed to help. > I do use updates-testing - but which particular update are you referring to? -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: systemd-analyze blame and missing swap?

2011-11-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I just had a disk go bad on me, and after unplugging it > and restoring the backup to another mostly empty disk, > boots were taking forever. > > So, since systemd-analyze blame had just showed up > in another thread, I thought I would try it a

Re: F16 kde plasma crashes - occasional

2011-11-24 Thread Neal Becker
mike cloaked wrote: > I have been running f16 x86_64 with kde 4.7.3 for a week or two on two > different machines. Occasionally I have found that the screen saver > kicks in but then fails to time out and so the screensaver runs > continuously without powersaving the monitor after a period as > n

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 11/23/2011 03:57 AM, JB wrote: > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results: > > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html > > The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain a > test > system OS), with implied quality, and for a user. > > It is time t

Re: Fedora - time to blink-XFCE question

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 09:13 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Why does XFCE insist you mount a Audio CD before you play it since we > all know that Audio CDs are not mounted in the usual meaning of the > term? Actually, it doesn't, although it may have in the past. However, if you want to have the software eje

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 09:07 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: > Another option would be to have /boot partitions for each OS (small -- > 500 MB max) and do everything else in LVM. This gives you the > flexibility to increase or decrease the size of the various filesystems > easily without repartitioning. Do all of t

Display resolution problems

2011-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
I just did a fresh install of Fedora 16 on my system which has an integrated Geforce video card ( GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a/PCI/SSE2) and I *know* my monitor (flat panel 19" Dell LCD) is capable of 1280x1024, but I can't seem to get it to go to that resolution. I know it works, because A) I do

Re: Recomend a colour laser printer

2011-11-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 11/23/2011 04:31 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > After battling for a couple of years with my cheap Dell 1320c printer > I have decided to throw in the towel as I can't get a 64bit Linux driver > for it. > > Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced network colour laser printer > that works well with F

Re: Printer problem Samsung CLX-3170

2011-11-24 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > It is hard to proceed just on the basis of the lines in the log > if you can't remember the steps you took then you could remove the > printer definition - and copy the two files into your system as I > described in a previous posting. On

Re: Fedora - time to blink-XFCE question

2011-11-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 08:40 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/24/2011 01:28 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > With a little work Gnome 3.2 can be adapted to a desktop that > > you should have no trouble working with (and liking (maybe)). > > So? XFCE does exactly what I want, right out of the box.

Re: Printer problem Samsung CLX-3170

2011-11-24 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Jim wrote: > ov 23 17:05:35 BigOne dbus[915]: [system] Activating service > name='org.opensuse.CupsPkHelper.Mechanism' (using servicehelper) > Nov 23 17:05:35 BigOne dbus-daemon[915]: dbus[915]: [system] Activating > service name='org.opensuse.CupsPkHelper.Mechan

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Tyler
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 11:48 -0500, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hi, > > As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM > and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as > follows:- > > Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB) > openSUSE - 10 GB installing

Re: penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Volovics
On 24-11-2011 17:48, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hi, > > As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM > and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as > follows:- > > Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB) > openSUSE - 10 GB installing with /root (10

penta-booting hard-disk: who would administer the hard-disk office?

2011-11-24 Thread Linux Tyro
Hi, As I have liked Linux (yes, I am windows convert), so with 2 GB RAM and 250 GB hard-disk, I am now going to make hard-disk penta boot as follows:- Fedora - 20 GB - installing it, - /root (20 GB) openSUSE - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) Ubuntu - 10 GB installing with /root (10 GB) Debi

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 01:28 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Stop with the criticism and take a look at Linux Mint 12 RC. > This clearly is Gnome 3.2 but with all the 'missing features' > of Gnome 2 you and others are complaining about. So what you're saying is, don't tell people what you don't like about

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/24/2011 01:28 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > With a little work Gnome 3.2 can be adapted to a desktop that > you should have no trouble working with (and liking (maybe)). So? XFCE does exactly what I want, right out of the box. When it comes to forcing Gnome 3.x to do what I want, you cl

Re: Recomend a colour laser printer

2011-11-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/24/2011 10:14 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > There are several choices - xerox 6100 has a list price of USD 299 - make that xerox 6010 .. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: OT: gather hardware information over network

2011-11-24 Thread Hiisi
On 24 November 2011 19:14, suvayu ali wrote: <--SNIP--> > > Although you have found a solution, for the sake of completeness I think > there isn't much of a configuration. Just installing the server and > configuring[1] should be enough. Then from the clients you can do > `smoltSendProfile -s `. >

Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback

2011-11-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 14:20 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/23/2011 02:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > My luck was that Gnome3.2 could not fully work on my system so I was > > going to be put in fallback mode (I think that is what it is called) By > > the way can anyone point me to what lack of reso

Re: Can't increase screen resolution (F16, KDE)

2011-11-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 24 November 2011 10:10:43 John Aldrich wrote: > I have Fedora 16 with a 19" flat-panel screen capable of 1280x1024, > however, Fedora / KDE seems to not realize my monitor is capable of this > resolution, and only offers a max resolution of 1024x768, which is > freaking HUGE on my monit

Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback

2011-11-24 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 11/24/2011 09:59 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I assume you mean changing the line: > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us > quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8" > > to: > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us quiet > SY

Re: fedora 16 64 bits gnome shutdown button

2011-11-24 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 10:02 +0100, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 07:42:13PM -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > > > Yep. Sure enough, if I activate the alternate-status-menu extension, it > > works, but as soon as I log out, I can't log back in again without the > > "Oh no" screen un

Re: OT: gather hardware information over network

2011-11-24 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 15:49, Hiisi wrote: > On 24 November 2011 18:43, suvayu ali wrote: >> Smolt is made for exactly this purpose. Maybe you can see if its >> possible to have a smolt setup local to your LAN? >> > > Thank you, Suvayu! That was my first thought. However I couldn't find > any in

Re: Recomend a colour laser printer

2011-11-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/23/2011 05:31 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > After battling for a couple of years with my cheap Dell 1320c printer > I have decided to throw in the towel as I can't get a 64bit Linux driver > for it. > > Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced network colour laser printer > that works well with

Can't increase screen resolution (F16, KDE)

2011-11-24 Thread John Aldrich
I have Fedora 16 with a 19" flat-panel screen capable of 1280x1024, however, Fedora / KDE seems to not realize my monitor is capable of this resolution, and only offers a max resolution of 1024x768, which is freaking HUGE on my monitor! How do I fix this??? I *know* my monitor is capable of 128

Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback

2011-11-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 08:35 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > On 11/23/2011 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > My luck was that Gnome3.2 could not fully work on my system so I was > > going to be put in fallback mode (I think that is what it is called) By > > the way can anyone point me to w

Re: OT: gather hardware information over network

2011-11-24 Thread Hiisi
On 24 November 2011 18:43, suvayu ali wrote: > Smolt is made for exactly this purpose. Maybe you can see if its > possible to have a smolt setup local to your LAN? > Thank you, Suvayu! That was my first thought. However I couldn't find any information on the net. Now I'm working on configuration

Re: OT: gather hardware information over network

2011-11-24 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 16:19, Hiisi wrote: > This maybe is a little off-topic on this list hence the 'OT' in the > subject line. Sorry for that. > I need to gather hardware information from computers on a local > network and store it on a server. The server runs F16, clients run > different ubunt

systemd-analyze blame and missing swap?

2011-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
I just had a disk go bad on me, and after unplugging it and restoring the backup to another mostly empty disk, boots were taking forever. So, since systemd-analyze blame had just showed up in another thread, I thought I would try it and see what it showed, but the longest time it has is 2294ms for

[Fwd: [Bug 756144] Error in F16 System Administrator Guide]

2011-11-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: bugzi...@redhat.com To: akons...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Bug 756144] Error in F16 System Administrator Guide Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:44:33 -0500 Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of thi

Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback

2011-11-24 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 11/23/2011 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > My luck was that Gnome3.2 could not fully work on my system so I was > going to be put in fallback mode (I think that is what it is called) By > the way can anyone point me to what lack of resources causes that to > happen? Check your /etc/default/gru

Re: Can't install nvidia drivers on Laptop

2011-11-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 November 2011 01:34, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/23/2011 05:18 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: >> That's what I've been saying all the time. I did know it was not the >> nvidia drivers. If I am not mistaken, this is a firmware problem with my >> wifi card. That being said, where is the fix for this p

Re: Need help to fix ruby, rails,rvm

2011-11-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 15:06 +1100, Roger wrote: > I installed ruby, rails, gem, rvm in ubuntu 11.10 and tried to update Perhaps you should ask on a Ubuntu list. This list is for Fedora. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/24/2011 07:34 AM, Craig White wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 15:50 +, JB wrote: >> >>> Are M$ Windows or Mac OS X test beds too ? >> >> sure - they ship with thousands of known bugs >> > > Too easy...  :-) that deserves a place

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 11/24/2011 10:28 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Stop with the criticism and take a look at Linux Mint 12 RC. > This clearly is Gnome 3.2 but with all the 'missing features' > of Gnome 2 you and others are complaining about. Gnome 3:s shell *should* be criticized, as it severely affects many u

Re: Firefox Issues Resolved

2011-11-24 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 24.11.2011, Fedora User wrote: > I was having problems is FF 8.0-03 causing 100% usage spikes. I can observe the same behviour here. [htd@wildsau ~]$ rpm -qa | grep firefox firefox-8.0-3.fc15.x86_64 > HOWEVER, FF 8.01 from source works perfectly and eliminates the problem > completely. Wh

Re: fedora 16 64 bits gnome shutdown button

2011-11-24 Thread Ron Yorston
Leonardo Silveira wrote: >how do i add the shutdown button on gnome menu? My GNOME Shell Frippery[1] has an extension that makes shutting down the system work more like GNOME 2. In fact, it has a number of extensions to make things work more like they do in GNOME 2. Ron [1] http://intgat.tigres

Re: Fedora - time to blink

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:01:44PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > Descriptions by people like him of what Gnome 3 was going to be are why > I don't use Gnome any more. It's clearly gone down a path I don't want > . Joe With a little work Gnome 3.2 can be adapted to a desktop that you should hav

Re: fedora 16 64 bits gnome shutdown button

2011-11-24 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 07:42:13PM -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > Yep. Sure enough, if I activate the alternate-status-menu extension, it > works, but as soon as I log out, I can't log back in again without the > "Oh no" screen until I disable the extension. Yes, a bug. But you can work around it f

Re: Fedora 15 kernel 2.6.41.1-1: asm/amd_iommu.h missing; bad kernel upgrade!

2011-11-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.11.2011 09:16, schrieb Rob: > Hi, > > After upgrading to the kernel of Fedora 15 today, the devel package has a > problem: > > error: asm/amd_iommu.h: No such file or directory > > which causes the failure of the VirtualBox kernel modules compilation.. > > So this is a bad kernel u

Fedora 15 kernel 2.6.41.1-1: asm/amd_iommu.h missing; bad kernel upgrade!

2011-11-24 Thread Rob
Hi, After upgrading to the kernel of Fedora 15 today, the devel package has a problem: error: asm/amd_iommu.h: No such file or directory which causes the failure of the VirtualBox kernel modules compilation.. So this is a bad kernel upgrade Rob. -- users mailing list users@lists.fed