Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/11/7 Fernando Cassia : > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> why in the world do you or anybody believe >> that this will repair all sort of potentially fs-errors of real life >> like power lost in the wrong moment? > > do you live in a war zone? the forest? hurricane

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/07/2011 11:00 PM, Tim wrote: > They get desperate when they want feeding, though (like Simon's cat). I > swear that ours was on the verge of speech, one day. Like this? http://www.gocomics.com/arloandjanis/2011/11/07 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/11/7 Fernando Cassia : > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:41, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> a untested filesystem > > BTRFS is not untested. > http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/single-disk/Initial-compare/Initial-Compare-Single_disk_Large_file_creates_num_threads=8.html > http://oss.oracle.com/pr

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 07:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Apparently you don't have cats and/or children. I have catsthis > *has* happened to me: > > http://www.simonscat.com/Films/Cat-Mouse/ LOL, very cute. We used to have a cat, I had to train it not to bite on the wires under my workbench

Re: Disabling touchpad on Dell Latitude with XFCE

2011-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/07/2011 03:32 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > Hello Oliver, > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 23:45, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >> I got a new Dell Latitude laptop with a touchpad and installed a >> fresh F15-XFCE. The computer is difficult to use, because it is almost >> impossible to type anything withou

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
If you're so eager to use btrfs you can always build the kernel from source to configure in support for the driver, as well as build the userspace tools like the formatter from source. To do so would be very useful to the community, as you would then be a tester, if you were so kind as to report b

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/07/2011 11:36 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > why in the world do you or anybody believe > that this will repair all sort of potentially fs-errors of real life > like power lost in the wrong

Re: Disabling touchpad on Dell Latitude with XFCE

2011-11-07 Thread suvayu ali
Hello Oliver, On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 23:45, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > I got a new Dell Latitude laptop with a touchpad and installed a > fresh F15-XFCE. The computer is difficult to use, because it is almost > impossible to type anything without touching the touchpad, and the > slightest touch

Disabling touchpad on Dell Latitude with XFCE

2011-11-07 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, I got a new Dell Latitude laptop with a touchpad and installed a fresh F15-XFCE. The computer is difficult to use, because it is almost impossible to type anything without touching the touchpad, and the slightest touch will result in a unwanted and sometimes disastrous mouse click (i

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread g
On 11/07/2011 09:51 PM, suvayu ali wrote: <> > To add to that for completeness, this is known as brace expansion. For > a detailed discussion, see man bash under "Brace Expansion". forgot about that trick. 8-( good to see Rich did not. 8-) -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply "plain

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread g
On 11/07/2011 05:28 PM, linux guy wrote: > I'd like to list all the files with names between DSC_6035.NEF and > DSC_6072.NEF. > > How do I do this ? if you can handle a few before and after, use; ls DSC_60[37]?.NEF. if not; ls DSC_603[5-9].NEF;ls DSC_60[4-6]?.NEF;ls DSC_607[0-2].NEF ther

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 22:09, Robert Nichols wrote: > You might try doing that with a shell sequence operator instead of globbing: > >    ls DSC_{6035..6072}.NEF > > To add to that for completeness, this is known as brace expansion. For a detailed discussion, see man bash under "Brace Expansion".

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread Rich
On 11/7/2011 1:54 PM, linux guy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) > wrote: > >> Not sure that shell globbing will work here... but you could do something >> like this in bash: > > > Thanks for confirming that. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing > someth

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/07/2011 12:54 PM, linux guy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) > wrote: > >> Not sure that shell globbing will work here... but you could do something >> like this in bash: > > > Thanks for confirming that. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing > somet

NFS Error

2011-11-07 Thread Geoffrey Leach
The mounting of an exported filesystem from F15 by F10 yields the following error: mount.nfs: Unknown error 521. Anyone care to suggest an interpretation? FWIW, here's a more detailed explanation. The F15 system exports three filesystems: /, /usr/local and /home/ geoff. All were successfully ex

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 10:28 -0700, linux guy wrote: > I'd like to list all the files with names between DSC_6035.NEF and > DSC_6072.NEF. > > How do I do this ? > > I tried using DSC_[6035-6072].NEF, but that doesn't work. It lists > files outside the desired range. [6035-6072] means "any single

Re: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread linux guy
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) wrote: > Not sure that shell globbing will work here... but you could do something > like this in bash: Thanks for confirming that. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something easy. Also, thanks to whomever fixed my bounced po

md :: f14,15,16 support of md_dX

2011-11-07 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! Is there support for partitionable raid1 as in: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Install_On_Partitionable_RAID1 ? do i need to patch mkinitrd? i seen this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471979 but i want to make sure .. in centos5 i still have to patch mkinitrd.. Thanks, Adrian sm

RE: wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of linux guy [linuxguy...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:28 To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: wildcards to list a group of files in

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/07/2011 08:51 AM, Tim wrote: > I don't, and felt the same way about LVM being foisted upon us with no > recovery tools. I don't like it being the default even with recovery tools. For the average home user, LVM is a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist. -- users mailing list

wildcards to list a group of files in sequential numerical order ?

2011-11-07 Thread linux guy
I'd like to list all the files with names between DSC_6035.NEF and DSC_6072.NEF. How do I do this ? I tried using DSC_[6035-6072].NEF, but that doesn't work. It lists files outside the desired range. The [ ] operator needs just 1 character parameter to work properly Thanks ! -- users

Re: corrupted MAC error -- fixed but not solved

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 05:08 -0800, Gerhard Magnus wrote: > how old is "too old" hardware for FC15? There's no answer for that. Some old hardware may lose its support because some bugs remain unresolved and a person doesn't step up and resolve them, or someone decides that they could thin the code

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 09:50 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Why do you think it is a good idea to make btrfs the default when > there is no fsck tool? I don't, and felt the same way about LVM being foisted upon us with no recovery tools. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Suspend does it to RAM. So your computer needs (minimal) power >> continuously available to it, to keep what it's stuffed into memory. >> If the memory is lost, then the next boot will be a cold boot. Linux Tyro: > But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except >

Re: /boot on MD RAID-1 broken in F16 anaconda

2011-11-07 Thread Pavel Lisy
Ian Pilcher píše v Ne 06. 11. 2011 v 12:36 -0600: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750480 I have the same expirience, it seems it will be in final release! I hope no. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750794 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746460 Pavel -- Pav

Re: /boot on MD RAID-1 broken in F16 anaconda

2011-11-07 Thread Pavel Lisy
Ian Pilcher píše v Ne 06. 11. 2011 v 12:36 -0600: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750480 I have the same expirience, it seems it will be in final release! I hope no. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750794 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746460 Pavel -- Pav

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Fernando Cassia wrote: > Seems like there´s less scaremongering on Gentoo/Funtoo than in Fedora > -at least they´re not afraid to try new things-, maybe I should switch > over now that Fedora has become CentOS... FYI: I run btrfs with Fedora on two machines and report to the btrfs list my finding

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23, Reindl Harald wrote: > why in the world do you or anybody believe > that this will repair all sort of potentially fs-errors of real life > like power lost in the wrong moment? > do you live in a war zone? the forest? hurricane zone? or any other place where the powe

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:13, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Where are all the btrfs data loss horror stories?. > > Google search "corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify" to answer > your question. > You mean things can go wrong like in ext4? http://martincarsten

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:07, Reindl Harald wrote: > until now btrfs has serious performance problems in different load > scenarious The only major "serious performance problem" I have read about are with virtual machines, due to the way btrfs spawns new threads, and that is solved with a work-

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Fernando Cassia wrote: > Where are all the btrfs data loss horror stories?. Google search "corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify" to answer your question. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: [389-users] 389 Suddenly Stops......

2011-11-07 Thread Rich Megginson
On 11/07/2011 07:17 AM, SHAW-MILLER, JOHN (Synetrix) wrote: All, I am wondering if any of you can help with this .. Scenario: I log into 389 using my own credentials (not the directory manager), I have full permissions on all directory servers What platform? What vers

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:41, Reindl Harald wrote: > a untested filesystem > BTRFS is not untested. http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/single-disk/Initial-compare/Initial-Compare-Single_disk_Large_file_creates_num_threads=8.html http://oss.oracle.com/projects/btrfs/dist/documentation/benchmark

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 09:36, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > For a critical component like a filesystem, it should be considered > not working until really tested and proven otherwise for anything not > beeing a test machine that is ready for beeing wiped. Oh sorry, I thought Fedora was all about runn

Re: XFCE weather applet shows "no data"

2011-11-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Nov 7 08:13, Steven Stern wrote: > On 11/07/2011 08:01 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On 07/11/11 13:58, Steven Stern wrote: > >> Is it just me? The XFCE weather applet has been showing "no data" for > >> several days now. No matter what city I enter, it says "weather report > >> for 99" when I

[389-users] 389 Suddenly Stops......

2011-11-07 Thread SHAW-MILLER, JOHN (Synetrix)
All, I am wondering if any of you can help with this .. Scenario: I log into 389 using my own credentials (not the directory manager), I have full permissions on all directory servers Result: 389 Directory Server stops on the logged on server, nothi

Re: XFCE weather applet shows "no data"

2011-11-07 Thread Steven Stern
On 11/07/2011 08:01 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 07/11/11 13:58, Steven Stern wrote: >> Is it just me? The XFCE weather applet has been showing "no data" for >> several days now. No matter what city I enter, it says "weather report >> for 99" when I ask it for a forecast. >> >> Hovering over the

corrupted MAC error -- fixed but not solved

2011-11-07 Thread Gerhard Magnus
Here's the problem -- fixed, but not solved: A small LAN with three boxes and hardwired ethernet connections through a router. PuteF: server, running FC15 (x86) and LXDE PuteB: running FC13 (386) and gnome PuteD: running FC15 (386) and KDE I can transfer files between PuteB and PuteD using scp

Re: autofs/nfs issue with Fedora 16

2011-11-07 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:50 AM, M A Young wrote: > On Sun, 6 Nov 2011, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> I use autofs to mount a nfs share that contains both the contents of >> the various Fedora install DVD's and packages I've built for a local >> repository. This has worked quite well on all my Fedora 14

Re: XFCE weather applet shows "no data"

2011-11-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/11/11 13:58, Steven Stern wrote: > Is it just me? The XFCE weather applet has been showing "no data" for > several days now. No matter what city I enter, it says "weather report > for 99" when I ask it for a forecast. > > Hovering over the applet says "Cannot update weather data". > > http

XFCE weather applet shows "no data"

2011-11-07 Thread Steven Stern
Is it just me? The XFCE weather applet has been showing "no data" for several days now. No matter what city I enter, it says "weather report for 99" when I ask it for a forecast. Hovering over the applet says "Cannot update weather data". -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Linux Tyro
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > But without intentionally deleting memory, how could it be lost except > for the case > > that power has gone and I am not using UPSCold boot simply means > that it doesn't > > need credentials to log-on? > > cold boot means a normal boot

Re: Is btrfs ready to be default fs in F17 ?

2011-11-07 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/11/6 Fernando Cassia : > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:40, Alan Cox wrote: >> >> Yes it'll change eventually perhaps - Oracle, and Red Hat and others >> according to Chris Mason are committed to making it work. > > That´s what I care about. You seem more focused on scaring people with the > f

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Linux Tyro
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Tim wrote: > With suspend and hibernate, the computer stores everything that it's > currently doing (documents your reading/editing, pages you're browsing, > etc), so that when you wake the computer up, you resume from where you > left off. > > Hibernate stores it

Re: autofs/nfs issue with Fedora 16

2011-11-07 Thread M A Young
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011, Richard Shaw wrote: > I use autofs to mount a nfs share that contains both the contents of > the various Fedora install DVD's and packages I've built for a local > repository. This has worked quite well on all my Fedora 14 & 15 > machines. This may be Bug 751731 https://bugzil

Re: Thanks to Fedora community; Installation & Disk Partitioning ISSUE

2011-11-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 01:47 -0500, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hibernation and Suspension of distro -- these options are a little > typical for me at least, I just either logout or Shut down. > > Logout - The current user logs out of the session. > Restart - To restart the computer to get back the sessio