Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread John Aldrich
On Sat October 1 2011, David wrote: > > The company that I work for has it's own server and the software that I > use every day, provided by them, runs on Windows. None of it has a Linux > clone and I seriously doubt that any of it ever will. And none of it > will run on WINE (why would anyone act

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:21 -0400, David wrote: > But I live in the real world. More people use Mac computers and software > than use Linux and I only actually know one person that uses a Mac. And > it is a new one and he runs Windows on it. And, unfortunately perhaps, > Linux is still not real

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/01/2011 06:28 PM, David wrote: > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; > rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Fedora/2.0.0.23-1.fc10 > Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666" > > Which looks like FC 10 and TBird 2.0.0.23 to me. [joe@khorlia Desktop]$ uname -r 2.6.35.14-96.fc1

Re: conkyforecast

2011-10-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/02/2011 07:08 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Thanks for the offer: my only concern would be that this is a package > in python (unlike conky) and I do not know python. Talk to upstream. If they are responsive, the best practice would be to get them to follow bug reports in Red Hat bugzilla whi

Re: conkyforecast

2011-10-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:37:22 -0500 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/01/2011 07:51 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just curious why conkyforecast is not in the Fedora repos? The source > > is at > > http://www.mostlyslack.com/slackstuff/sources/conkyforecast_2.20.tar.gz > > > > It would ma

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 8:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/01/2011 04:26 PM, David wrote: >> But I would hope that you keep her Ubuntu more up-to-date than you do >> your Fedora. The Fedora, F-10, that you are using and the TBird that you >> are using, 2.0.0.24, were both EOL years ago. > > What are you talking

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 7:55 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:32 -0400, David wrote: > >> Fedora 'out of the box' works for me too. But then I don't use laptops >> and they seem to be a major source of problem(s). > > laptops often have short run, proprietary hardware that if no one > pr

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 16:32 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Searching google, here is what Dell has to say: > http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/3TB+drives%3A+OS+Behavior+Matrix > > I need a drive that I can partition at least to > 15 partitions as I use many different OSes > (windows, mac, linu

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:32 -0400, David wrote: > Fedora 'out of the box' works for me too. But then I don't use laptops > and they seem to be a major source of problem(s). laptops often have short run, proprietary hardware that if no one provides ample feedback to developers, may very well

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/01/2011 04:26 PM, David wrote: > But I would hope that you keep her Ubuntu more up-to-date than you do > your Fedora. The Fedora, F-10, that you are using and the TBird that you > are using, 2.0.0.24, were both EOL years ago. What are you talking about? I skipped F 10, going from F 9 to F 1

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 10/01/2011 04:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 20:32, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> So, It looks to me, I will have to return the 3GB >> drive back to the store and get a 2GB drive so >> that I can have 15 partitions, of mixed OS for >> multiboot operations. > Surely you mea

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 20:32, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > So, It looks to me, I will have to return the 3GB > drive back to the store and get a 2GB drive so > that I can have 15 partitions, of mixed OS for > multiboot operations. Surely you meant 2TB. :) FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Searching google, here is what Dell has to say: http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/3TB+drives%3A+OS+Behavior+Matrix I need a drive that I can partition at least to 15 partitions as I use many different OSes (windows, mac, linux) and it appears to me that I cannot use the MSDOS partition tables fo

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 7:07 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 17:58 -0400, David wrote: >> On 10/1/2011 5:39 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 06:12, Marko Vojinovic wrote: As a natural consequence, Linux is a priori not designed for noobs and newbies who do not w

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 7:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/01/2011 03:53 PM, David wrote: >> Curious. Is/was her Windows a recent purchase on a recent computer? And >> what 'did not work'. > > She'd been running Win2K on that box for several years. It required the > same almost constant maintenance (Scandisk,

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 17:58 -0400, David wrote: > On 10/1/2011 5:39 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 06:12, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> As a natural consequence, Linux is a priori not designed for > >> noobs and newbies who do not want to learn. > > > > I think this is a probl

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/01/2011 03:53 PM, David wrote: > Curious. Is/was her Windows a recent purchase on a recent computer? And > what 'did not work'. She'd been running Win2K on that box for several years. It required the same almost constant maintenance (Scandisk, defrag, anti-virus and so on) that all Window

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 October 2011 23:28, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/01/2011 02:58 PM, David wrote: >> As much as*I*  like Linux it will never become a common desktop until >> that happens. Until it*just works*. IMO of course. > > My older sister runs Ubuntu on her desktop.  At least 95% of the time It > Just Works,

f15 : changing video driver

2011-10-01 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! is there a gui for selecting other driver for video? (instead of nvidia installed one) I think i have some hardware problem with nvidia card (on laptop) and i think that could be temperature related .. so i want to change to nv driver (i dont use 3d anyway) Thanks, Adrian smime.p7s Descript

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 6:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/01/2011 02:58 PM, David wrote: >> As much as*I* like Linux it will never become a common desktop until >> that happens. Until it*just works*. IMO of course. > > My older sister runs Ubuntu on her desktop. At least 95% of the time It > Just Works, whic

Re: If "DBAN" was one of the Fedora install-disk options...

2011-10-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/01/2011 07:25 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 21:04:13 -0700, > Linda McLeod wrote: >> My IP and OS are a vandalism target of mindless childish hellbound kooks >> hellbent on causing me grief to appease their delusions tha

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/01/2011 02:58 PM, David wrote: > As much as*I* like Linux it will never become a common desktop until > that happens. Until it*just works*. IMO of course. My older sister runs Ubuntu on her desktop. At least 95% of the time It Just Works, which is more than you can say for Windows. The o

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread David
On 10/1/2011 5:39 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 06:12, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> As a natural consequence, Linux is a priori not designed for >> noobs and newbies who do not want to learn. > > I think this is a problem. > > When I started using Linux back in 1999 (Caldera Ope

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Jitesh Shah
..snip.. > PS: Just including aliases for common Windows commands the users are > expected to find would have helped a lot of newcomers, but actually > the general concensus seems to be "this is Linux, it's not designed to > please Windows users, windows users should learn Linux and how it > works

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 06:12, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > As a natural consequence, Linux is a priori not designed for > noobs and newbies who do not want to learn. I think this is a problem. When I started using Linux back in 1999 (Caldera OpenLinux before the SCO fiasco, fwiw(, I expected the use

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread linux guy
With further use I've found that the hot swap hard drives show up in Dolphin just fine, even if they aren't mounted manual. It must have been just the first time after formatting that they don't appear, whereas with fdisk, they do. For those that aren't aware a hot swap capable motherboard (and B

Re: innovation of micro$oft...

2011-10-01 Thread Hiisi
On 1 October 2011 22:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 15:48 +0200, Maurizio Marini wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:00:55 -0430 >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > Exactly what does this have to do with Fedora? >> nothing at all, like 90% of all the very interesting thread on

Re: innovation of micro$oft...

2011-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 15:48 +0200, Maurizio Marini wrote: > On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:00:55 -0430 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Exactly what does this have to do with Fedora? > nothing at all, like 90% of all the very interesting thread on this mlist :) > i love this mlist for this reason, b

Re: Unable to connect to the Internet through wireless

2011-10-01 Thread Raphael Groner
In-Reply-To=<4e86d22d.5060...@gmail.com> I quick usage of one of my favorite search engines with both key words "broadcom4312" and "fedora" showed up easily the following link that describes a way with only 3 steps to get it to work for Fedora 11. Since the howto was written for F11, I don't kn

Re: F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update[SOLVED]

2011-10-01 Thread jackson byers
my last reply was incomplete; I did both of the commands as per Lance: >give this out with root: >semanage fcontext -a -s system_u -t usr_t /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox >restorecon -v /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox Jack -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Javier Adrián Ortiz de la Tabla
2011/10/1 Linda McLeod : > > I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..  FF is way too easy > to hack and crack > by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... > > Please tell: What be the most secure browser for Linux Fedora?..  Is > there such a thing as a "secure browser"..? > >

Re: F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update [SOLVED]

2011-10-01 Thread jackson byers
Daniel J Walsh replied >My goal is not to get into the blame game, but google-chrome requires >some strange access that I have never seen an app need before. >Basically an application chrome-sandbox needing to load the the >executable (not shared library) chrome which was not compiled with >PIC.

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/30/2011 11:53 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > > I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw.. FF is way too easy > to hack and crack > by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... Sounds like something bad happened to you. We tend to be fairly smug about web pages because we're u

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread g
On 10/01/2011 04:53 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: > I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw.. FF is way too easy > to hack and crack by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... considering the cost of mozilla software and that it is your choice to] install them, and fact that mozill

Re: conkyforecast

2011-10-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/01/2011 07:51 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > Just curious why conkyforecast is not in the Fedora repos? The source > is at http://www.mostlyslack.com/slackstuff/sources/conkyforecast_2.20.tar.gz > > It would make a nice extension to conky IMO. Is there any reason, or > should I file a R

conkyforecast

2011-10-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, Just curious why conkyforecast is not in the Fedora repos? The source is at http://www.mostlyslack.com/slackstuff/sources/conkyforecast_2.20.tar.gz It would make a nice extension to conky IMO. Is there any reason, or should I file a RFE for this on BZ? Thanks, Ranjan -- users mailing list u

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 01.10.2011, Linda McLeod wrote: > I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw.. FF is way too easy > to hack and crack by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... Well, I refuse to take this one unless you provide clear evidence for your point of view. -- users mailing list

Re: More live linux distributions available

2011-10-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:40:55 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:13 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:30:08 -0500 Aaron Konstam > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 13:51 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:32:59 -0500 Aaron Kon

Re: More liive linuux distributions available

2011-10-01 Thread Andras Simon
2011/10/1, Aaron Konstam : > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 21:25 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: [...] >> What prevents you from downloading them yourself? Does unetbootin only >> work with the distributions it can download? >> >> Andras > > You can download them yourself if you know where to go. But here you c

Re: innovation of micro$oft...

2011-10-01 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:00:55 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Exactly what does this have to do with Fedora? nothing at all, like 90% of all the very interesting thread on this mlist :) i love this mlist for this reason, b/c i can read about a lot of issue that are very interesting to me, even

Re: More liive linuux distributions available

2011-10-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/30/2011 01:30 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > There seems to be a misunderstanding. I am talking about being able to > > download distributions. You are interested in DEs. If you want let us > > say LXDE under F15 you install F15 with its defa

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 01:53, Linda McLeod wrote: > FF is way too easy > to hack and crack > by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... I suggest you run internet explorer 6, under wine. That is secure. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: More live linux distributions available

2011-10-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 17:13 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:30:08 -0500 Aaron Konstam > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 13:51 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:32:59 -0500 Aaron Konstam > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know when this happened b

Re: innovation of micro$oft...

2011-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 23:23 -0700, lancebaynes87 wrote: > http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/09/problems-with-microsoft-security.html > > It was just an accident, or not, mr. micro$oft? ...f*ck you.. > Exactly what does this have to do with Fedora? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: More liive linuux distributions available

2011-10-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 21:25 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: > 2011/9/30, Ranjan Maitra : > > > It does not? Mine does. However, what it does not (and from the > > screenshots on the referred-to page still may not) provide is > > downloading other spins from Fedora such as LXDE, XFCE and the like. > >

Re: Unable to connect to the Internet through wireless

2011-10-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 16:41:17 +0800, jinwei wrote: > first sorry about my poor English ! i try my best to explain my problem > clearly! > i use the broadcom4312(14e4 4315) 802.11b/g wireless adapter > i have compiled the source code from the broadcom's official website > acroding to their hel

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 21:53:23 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: > > Please tell: What be the most secure browser for Linux Fedora?.. Is > there such a thing as a "secure browser"..? Probably telnet. It's not very user friendly though. > Have you got any ideas when Mozilla might make FF reasonabl

Re: If "DBAN" was one of the Fedora install-disk options...

2011-10-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 21:04:13 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: > My IP and OS are a vandalism target of mindless childish hellbound kooks > hellbent on causing me grief to appease their delusions that I'm in any > ways like them, and that I might somehow want to help them solve their > useless bull

Testing required for deluge systemd unit files

2011-10-01 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi all, I've written unit files for deluge to be used with systemd. There are two unit files: deluged.service[1]: for the deluged daemon deluge-web.service[2]: for the web ui As far as I know, - they need to be copied to /lib/systemd/system - systemctl daemon-reload - systemctl start deluged.s

Re: F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update

2011-10-01 Thread lancebaynes87
google-chrome /opt/google/chrome/chrome: error while loading shared libraries: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied give this out with root: semanage fcontext -a -s system_u -t usr_t /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox restorecon -v /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox O

Re: F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update

2011-10-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2011 03:40 PM, jackson byers wrote: > Daniel J Walsh replied > > >> This is definitely something in SELinux. The current upstream >> google chrome is a little strange from an SELinux point of view. >> Have you tried chromium? > >> http://

Re: How to get both T520 trackpoint and touchpad working in F15

2011-10-01 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 07:43:33PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > > I am trying to get both trackpoint and touchpad of the Lenovo > > T520 UltraNav working, preferably at the same time as under Windows 7. > > cat /proc/bus/input/devices sh

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-10-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 01 October 2011 03:31:53 Fernando Cassia wrote: > So I eventually realized it´s not really the end-user´s job to know > about the cylinder limits of DOS-style partition tables beforehand. > And that if they fire fdisk on a bigger than 2TB hard drive, a warning > message "hey, look, thi

Unable to connect to the Internet through wireless

2011-10-01 Thread jinwei
first sorry about my poor English ! i try my best to explain my problem clearly! i use the broadcom4312(14e4 4315) 802.11b/g wireless adapter i have compiled the source code from the broadcom's official website acroding to their help file(read me)! Now the mod is loaded & i can see the wifi but the

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/10/11 05:53, Linda McLeod wrote: > > I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw.. FF is way too easy > to hack and crack > by demon-bullies to get into to mess-up the browser... > > Please tell: What be the most secure browser for Linux Fedora?.. Is > there such a thing as a "secure

Re: I find FireFox is Fedora's biggest security flaw..

2011-10-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/30/2011 09:53 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > Please tell: What be the most secure browser for Linux Fedora?.. Lynx? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorap