Re: linux desktop managment

2011-09-06 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:40 +1200, Gregory Machin wrote: > Hi. > I'm looking for an interface / way to manage a large number of Linux > desktops. They are mixed os , fedora and Ubuntu mostly. We are using > likewise open to ma age user athentication . I need centralise package > managment and patc

Re: SVN over HTTP and mod_security

2011-09-06 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 22:42 -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote: > I had configured and installed subversion (SVN) to run over HTTP as the > transport, but when I tried to use it I got: > > [Mon Sep 05 11:23:29 2011] [error] [client ::1] ModSecurity: Warning. > Operator LT matched 20 at TX:inbound_a

linux desktop managment

2011-09-06 Thread Gregory Machin
Hi. I'm looking for an interface / way to manage a large number of Linux desktops. They are mixed os , fedora and Ubuntu mostly. We are using likewise open to ma age user athentication . I need centralise package managment and patching. I need to centralise deployment of printers , print servers a

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >>> On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > For EOL FF versions, how ca

SVN over HTTP and mod_security

2011-09-06 Thread Philip Prindeville
I had configured and installed subversion (SVN) to run over HTTP as the transport, but when I tried to use it I got: [Mon Sep 05 11:23:29 2011] [error] [client ::1] ModSecurity: Warning. Operator LT matched 20 at TX:inbound_anomaly_score. [file "/etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/base_rules/modsecurity_c

Re: No wireless (waiting for authorization) after awake from suspend

2011-09-06 Thread Gene Smith
Gene Smith wrote, On 09/05/2011 11:08 PM: > F15 on new HP dv7-6195 (i7/sandy bridge) cannot regain wireless > connection after awake from suspend. In KDE, I see notification "waiting > for authorization" and then a "key" icon appears over the wireless icon > in tray. In gnome, a dialog pops up with

Help: Fedora15/Fedora 14 can not find the the DVD-ROM when install using Sata DVD-ROM drive and my BIOS was configured in IDE Mode for Intel Cougar Point 6GB/S port

2011-09-06 Thread Focus . Luo
Hi all, Fedora15/Fedora 14 can not find the the DVD-ROM when install using Sata DVD-ROM drive and my BIOS was configured in IDE mode for Intel Cougar Point Sata controller on Sata 6GB/S port. But when I changed the sata 6Gb/s port from IDE mode to AHCI mode on my BIOS, the Fedora15/Fedora 14 ca

Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Andre Robatino
Bob McClure Jr bobcatos.com> writes: > > I don't believe there's a yum repo for x86-64 beta flash plugin, so > > I roll my own rpm. Funny timing – I just checked and there's a new > > beta x86-64 plugin released today on > > http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html There is a third-par

Re: reaching a server behind a NAT

2011-09-06 Thread Jatin K
On Monday 05 September 2011 08:50 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Hey all, > > sorry if this is not purely Fedora related, but I was hoping I might get > some feedback anyhow from someone who knows more than I do. > > I have this: > > A NAT-configured router between my house and the internet. >

Re: Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Bob McClure Jr
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:04:15PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bob McClure Jr writes: > > >A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an > >on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not > >surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64

Re: Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bob McClure Jr writes: A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64 machine with 2GB of RAM. Initially, I couldn't get any videos to work, but

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread David
On 9/6/2011 8:48 PM, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > Are you sure we are talking about the same issue. In my case I tested several > times. Whenever I try starting without the network wire this happens, and > never when the network wire is plugged in. > > I doubt that the network wire adds more memo

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, Are you sure we are talking about the same issue. In my case I tested several times. Whenever I try starting without the network wire this happens, and never when the network wire is plugged in. I doubt that the network wire adds more memory to the operating system!!! What i was thinking is

Re: pulseaudio command line control?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:17:49 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > pasuspender -- ./tdmlauncher.linux > > The double hyphen is important! That would probably work, but I finally searched for the right phrase and got a hit on "pacmd". Looks like I can feed it commands to set the profile of some card to "off

Non-YouTube videos don't work in F15

2011-09-06 Thread Bob McClure Jr
A few weeks ago I upgraded from Fedora 13 to Fedora 15. This was an on-line upgrade (using preupgrade) not a fresh install. Not surprisingly, several things are broken. This is an AMD Athlon 64 machine with 2GB of RAM. Initially, I couldn't get any videos to work, but a web search led me to a s

Re: pulseaudio command line control?

2011-09-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > By running "gnome-control-center sound" I can get a GUI app > in which I can set a device profile to "off" so that pulse > will stop fooling with it, and I am then free to talk to > it directly with alsa to do special things like ac3 > passthrou

Re: Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 03:02:47 +0300 Gilboa Davara wrote: > - Gilboa > [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQ_tNNFYog 0:52. I always liked Alf. I had a theory that he really was an alien and they were using a sitcom to gradually introduce aliens to earth :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 01:15:07 +0300 > Gilboa Davara wrote: > >> (Preferably without adding some boot parameters and/or >> configuration file editing) > > There was some discussion about getting more info from > systemd on the list a few weeks ago,

pulseaudio command line control?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
By running "gnome-control-center sound" I can get a GUI app in which I can set a device profile to "off" so that pulse will stop fooling with it, and I am then free to talk to it directly with alsa to do special things like ac3 passthrough to spdif. My question is: Can I do the same thing with a c

Re: Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 01:15:07 +0300 Gilboa Davara wrote: > (Preferably without adding some boot parameters and/or > configuration file editing) There was some discussion about getting more info from systemd on the list a few weeks ago, and I seem to recall that thread mentioning a systemd config fi

Verbose systemctl start network.serivce

2011-09-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
Hello all, I *know* this is a touchy subject, so please don't turn this into yet-another-why-I-hate-systemd shouting-match. (God knows we had far too many of those lately...) I'm in the process of upgrading a number of F14 machines to F15. (Which makes me a prime candidate for a "I survived Fedor

Re: OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Hiisi
On 6 September 2011 21:04, Steven Stern wrote: <--SNIP--> > It sounds like the sort of thing that's behind Shazam's app. > Nice try, Steve! Forgot to mention, open-source required! Stand-alone editions are preferable ;-) -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.o

Re: OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/06/2011 03:45 PM, Hiisi wrote: > Hi, list! > Sorry if this thread interrupts the hottest discussions about gnome3 > and systemd. I'm just curious. > There's a visgrep utility [1] that allows one to find images inside of > images. I wonder is there anything similar to google image search > whe

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Disable GDM "ready" sound

2011-09-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/06/2011 01:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: > Konstantin Svist ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on > 06/09/2011 22:12: >> On 09/06/2011 01:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >>> Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying "BONG!" >>> sound (/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/

OT: grep by sound and grep by image

2011-09-06 Thread Hiisi
Hi, list! Sorry if this thread interrupts the hottest discussions about gnome3 and systemd. I'm just curious. There's a visgrep utility [1] that allows one to find images inside of images. I wonder is there anything similar to google image search where one could provide a pattern image and search f

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Disable GDM "ready" sound

2011-09-06 Thread antonio montagnani
Konstantin Svist ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 06/09/2011 22:12: > On 09/06/2011 01:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying "BONG!" >> sound (/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga) >> >> Is there a "proper" way to turn i

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box [SOLVED]

2011-09-06 Thread jackson byers
the advice from Ted Roche worked: I finally figured out I had to run that command from the iMac, not from f14box: on the iMac I ran cupsctl BrowseRemoteProtocols=cups then after futzing with the iMac Print & Fax preference pane in the System Preferences window. I can finally see my

[SOLVED] Re: Disable GDM "ready" sound

2011-09-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/06/2011 01:02 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying "BONG!" > sound (/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga) > > Is there a "proper" way to turn it off? If not, I'll have to remove > the file.. Nevermind, found one that works by goog

Disable GDM "ready" sound

2011-09-06 Thread Konstantin Svist
Every time I boot my laptop, I'm greeted with an annoying "BONG!" sound (/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga) Is there a "proper" way to turn it off? If not, I'll have to remove the file.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 12:12 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > And did you try it on the Mac? I tried 'man cupsctl' on my F14 box, > and it doesn't seem to support that syntax, so I think it was intended > for you to try on the Mac. If this doesn't work, try going to http://127.0.0.1:631/ on the Mac, as that's the w

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM, jackson byers wrote: > But, much is  not clear to me, > I thought the whole point of IPP Sharing was that > you didnt have to do anything on the client machines, even Macs. Well, especially Macs, as CUPS is/was written by Apple. > Am I supposed to run > cupsctl

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 06/09/11 19:14, Peter Gueckel wrote: > Vinny Onelli wrote: > >> Thank you very much, the direction were perfect and every thing worked. > > Happy to help. > Here's hoping you enjoy KDE, it's what I use. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 11:48 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > I took your advice, and installed XFCE on F15 and it is working better > than great. Very fast, very intuitive, and the users were very pleased. > So far no crashes or white screens. I'm glad it worked for you. One of the great things about Linux

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 11:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2011 11:37 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > > I have > > not had the time, but my next step to salvage this piece of equipment is > > to use kde or one of the other gui's. > > My desktop is maxed out at 1 Gig, and I'm not in the position t

Re: iMac on my Lan can't see my printer connected via usb to my linux box

2011-09-06 Thread jackson byers
Ted Roche responded (http://localhost:631/help/sharing.html?TOPIC=Getting+Started&QUERY=#AUTO_CUPS) and there I found a note that says: "Note: >Due to user interface changes in Mac OS X 10.5, CUPS shared > printers will not automatically appear in the print dialog. Instead, > you must fir

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Gueckel
Vinny Onelli wrote: > Thank you very much, the direction were perfect and every thing worked. Happy to help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2011 05:17 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > Wow. I hope you guys are just as effusive with your praise to developers > for software that you actually like... It's not that we don't like Gnome. I used Gnome 2.x and liked it. What I never liked is the attitude of the devs, even then

[389-users] LDAP Secondary not returning the same as primary with getent passwd

2011-09-06 Thread Dan H. Eicher
Synopsis: getent passwd {user} works on secondary and primary server, getent passwd fails (does not return all users) on secondary, works correctly on primary. getent passwd {username} - works when pointing to both primary and secondary. getent passwd | grep {username} only works if pointed t

Re: How to change from gnome to KDE and back?

2011-09-06 Thread Vinny Onelli
> Vinny Onelli wrote: > > > I did select the KDE also > > during the installation. at the present time I have gnome running. > > You have all of KDE already installed. Simply log out and select KDE on the > kdm selector and log back in. gdm should also give you that option. > > If it doesn't w

Re: Getting Intel 4965 wireless working in F15 ?

2011-09-06 Thread linux guy
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I have this wireless for over four years now, and this works just fine, > from off-the-shelf. Have you tried using the LiveCD to check whether > the wireless is picked up? > > It works fine with the F15 live ISO. I can't figure out what the

Re: Latest update boots to blank screen (nvidia)

2011-09-06 Thread linux guy
> > I still cannot apply the latest kernel & nvidia package. Has anyone > resolved this? > > I got two of my computers with this problem to boot by removing all kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia files and also removing (renaming) /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This causes the machines to boot with the nouveau dri

Re: Latest update boots to blank screen (nvidia)

2011-09-06 Thread CS DBA
On 08/24/2011 02:10 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I have an IBM Thinkpad with an Nvidia card ( nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2) ) I currently have the nouveau driver black listed in my grub.conf setup: /rhgb quiet nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau/ I did the update which insta

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/9/6 gpe : > There was a lot going on about hating the gnome3 and someone mentioned > that he miss e17 on Fedora. > Currently I am a happy e17 user on Fedora 15. > I like the customizability, the flexibility and the lightness (it eats > less than 70MB of RAM). > Even if it considered as beta I

Re: Getting Intel 4965 wireless working in F15 ?

2011-09-06 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I have this wireless for over four years now, and this works just fine, from off-the-shelf. Have you tried using the LiveCD to check whether the wireless is picked up? Ranjan On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:06:52 -0500 linux guy wrote: > Any quick tips on how one would get wireless working on a laptop wi

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:52 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:18:34 -0700 > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates >> pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... > My approach would be to download the source

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:49 AM, Pasha R wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructi

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:18:34 -0700 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates > pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... My approach would be to download the source RPM for the old fedora, do an rpmbuild -bp, then su

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >>> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted >>> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla >>> does not remove this

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 07:19:22 -0700 "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: > For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted > Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla > does not remove this certificate. I think you'll need to build a newer Firefox (and remember for a no longer supported re

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:24 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:18, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Now... I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates >> pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... > Well, Wikileaks has proved that you can only hid

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:18, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Now...  I need to figure out how to do a backport of ca-certificates > pkg so if anyone has any idea how this can be done, I am all ears... Well, Wikileaks has proved that you can only hide information for so long. So why not relax and e

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/06/2011 10:18 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >>> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted >>> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla >>> does not remove this certific

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/06/2011 08:08 AM, Pasha R wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted >> Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla >> does not remove this certificate. >> >> If the root CA's cannot be manually removed,

Re: Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On 09/06/2011 04:19 PM, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > After installing F15, I found a problem that did not happen in the previous > versions. > > If I start fedora without being wired to internet it freezes after startup. > Cannot move the mouse to get in. > > I have to reboot and connect it (with t

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Pasha R
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted > Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla > does not remove this certificate. > > If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there > a FF rpm that has the fix? Uneduc

Getting Intel 4965 wireless working in F15 ?

2011-09-06 Thread linux guy
Any quick tips on how one would get wireless working on a laptop with the Intel 4965 device on it in F15 ? $ yum list installed \*wl\* Loaded plugins: changelog, downloadonly, kmdl, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages broadcom-wl.noarch 5.60.48.36-1.fc13 @rpmfusion-nonfree iwl3945-firmware.noarc

Re: F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 07:19:22 -0700 "Daniel B. Thurman" wrote: > For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted > Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla > does not remove this certificate. > > If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there > a FF rpm that has the fix?

F15 cannot unmount shares with usermount

2011-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
Watch for line wraps: from fstab: mynas://nfs/store01 /home/users/Net01 nfs rw,users,noauto,hard,intr 0 0 when I use a launcher to mount with /usr/bin/usermount It mounts, but cannot umount "umount: /home/users/Net01 mount disagrees with the fstab " drwxrwx---+ 11 root users 409

Re: F15, diskless node, systemctl start tmpfs.device timeout

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/2011 09:08 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Xiao Peng Wang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I made a diskless image against Fedora15, during the boot I found >> it displayed the following error message and went into emergency >> mode. >> >> The error messa

Is this a bug?

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, After installing F15, I found a problem that did not happen in the previous versions. If I start fedora without being wired to internet it freezes after startup. Cannot move the mouse to get in. I have to reboot and connect it (with the wire) to internet. Do you have any suggestions? --

F-EOL versions of Firefox: How to remove co-opted Diginotar CA?

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
For EOL FF versions, how can I remove the co-opted Diginotar CA certificate? Instructions given by Mozilla does not remove this certificate. If the root CA's cannot be manually removed, Is there a FF rpm that has the fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 06/09/2011 alle 12.31 +0100, gpe ha scritto: > 2. Install e7 > yum install enlightenment exchange Wow!! but ... is fantastic! ... is very very beautiful ... an usable and ... many many other things. But the Gnome3 developers have see e17? I think no: gnome3 is nothing (is poor)

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-06 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 09/02/2011 12:53 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Joe Zeff wrote: > >> Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a >> rats ass about what mere users think? > > They care enormously about what the imaginary user they have > created thinks. Real users, not so much. They can alw

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread gpe
On 09/06/2011 12:52 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > Enlightenment is available on Fedora 15. A simple: > > # yum install enlightenment > > should suffice. However the package might be orphaned for F16 due to > lack of a maintainer. It is an older version 55225 comparing to 62564, and it does not seems to

Re: enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread suvayu ali
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, gpe wrote: > Here is a help if anybody want to try it out. > 1. Add fedora.md repo Enlightenment is available on Fedora 15. A simple: # yum install enlightenment should suffice. However the package might be orphaned for F16 due to lack of a maintainer. HTH --

enlightenment e17

2011-09-06 Thread gpe
There was a lot going on about hating the gnome3 and someone mentioned that he miss e17 on Fedora. Currently I am a happy e17 user on Fedora 15. I like the customizability, the flexibility and the lightness (it eats less than 70MB of RAM). Even if it considered as beta I do not had any issues wit

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-06 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/06/2011 12:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On a side note, all too many of the devs either expect everybody else > to know how to program as well as they do, or use the comment "If you > don't like it, why don't you fix it yourself?" as a putdown to the > rest of us who don't agree with what they've

Re: Who supplies the information to configure Dell keyboards?

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/06/2011 02:05 AM, nomnex wrote: > On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:39:05 +0530 > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> On 09/05/2011 04:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:27:46 +0200 >>> Alexander Volovics wrote: >>> Why does Fedora lag behind Ubuntu in this regard while usually provi