On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 08:45 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
>> By the way, the requirement for a larger /boot partition came about
>> because files for preupgrade need to be stored there. It was a new
>> requirement; one that the program should/could have checked to s
On Saturday 27 August 2011 04:12 PM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
> Does there exist a command or command string that will examine a Port
> and report what application is locking that port?
netstat -ntulp
netstat --help for more
> I am beating my head against an install for of all people my Son-In-Law.
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 12:01 -0600, linux guy wrote:
>> I want to upgrade from F14 to F15. For whatever reason, the boot
>> after running preupgrade fails if I try to do it that way.
>>
>> So now I would like to upgrade via the DVD iso.
>>
>>
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 15:37:23 -0500,
Aaron Konstam wrote:
>
> Remove and erase are synonyms. The people who argue that format does not
> erase the files would have to argue that rm does not remove files.
It doesn't really remove them, it unlinks them. (At least on ext file
systems.) When th
On 08/28/2011 08:45 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> By the way, the requirement for a larger /boot partition came about
> because files for preupgrade need to be stored there. It was a new
> requirement; one that the program should/could have checked to see if
> the requirement was met.
And so it did. It ch
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 09:26 AM, Kam Leo wrote:
>> You just gave an example of where preupgrade failed. It's amazing how
>> people forget shortcomings in the program.
>
> So you consider it a failure of preupgrade if the target system's /boot
> doesn't ha
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 14:30, Tim wrote:
> *Those* people are not the ones to pay attention to
> when trying to understand the computer. You are one of those people.
Oh yes, I'm a complete fool. And ignorant. That's why I started using
computers at age 8 (a trs-80 model III) and why I learned
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 4:58 PM, jdow wrote:
>
> chroot not needed. Use "--installroot=root". Substitute the mountpoint
> for the damaged system. I believe that should work for him.
>
I knew there was a way. I couldn't find it in the man page. Thanks for
sharing that.
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 10:41 AM, Tim wrote:
>> It removes the file, or directory, from the directory*listing* (the
>> list of what's on the disc). It doesn't actually remove the file (or
>> directory).
This dir was IMO for upstart config files, and now with F15/systemd
its existence is pointless, i'm right?
>From old times i was wonted to control services with
"/etc/init.d/SERVICE command" rather then "service SERVICE command"
- first variant was, using shell completion, much faster and prone
to
On 2011/08/28 12:09, Andre Speelmans wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:04 PM, linux guy wrote:
>> Is there a way to run yum to update the files on a non working system when
>> booting from a live or rescue iso ?
>
> I would say depends on what and how much is broken.
> But you can try a chroot to
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 16:19 +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > But then what do we say the function of rm is. Does it erase the files
> > that are its arguments. It also does not erase the file anymore than
> > format does.
>
> The man page says:
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 12:01 -0600, linux guy wrote:
> I want to upgrade from F14 to F15. For whatever reason, the boot
> after running preupgrade fails if I try to do it that way.
>
> So now I would like to upgrade via the DVD iso.
>
> I would like to do so without burning a DVD. I'd like to
ok check you have enough memory.
Thanks,
gary
--- On Sun, 8/28/11, Joe Zeff wrote:
> From: Joe Zeff
> Subject: Re: F15 Upgrade kernel won't run.
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 12:11 PM
> On 08/28/2011 09:26 AM, Kam Leo
> wrote:
> > You just gave a
I get the following when I boot F15 on my Dell Duo.
kernel BUG at drivers/media/media-entity.c 346!
invalid opcode: [#1] SMP
Modules linked in: snd_hda_codec_conexant uvcvideo(+) microcode(+)
snd_hda_intel(+)
It goes on from there, including a Call Trace.
My Duo won't boot because of th
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:04 PM, linux guy wrote:
> Is there a way to run yum to update the files on a non working system when
> booting from a live or rescue iso ?
I would say depends on what and how much is broken.
But you can try a chroot to the mounted system and then run yum.
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Is there a way to run yum to update the files on a non working system when
booting from a live or rescue iso ?
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On 08/28/2011 10:41 AM, Tim wrote:
> It removes the file, or directory, from the directory*listing* (the
> list of what's on the disc). It doesn't actually remove the file (or
> directory).
AIUI, it also frees up the inodes to be used again. A deleted file can
be recovered if *and only if* the
The F11 instructions don't work.
F15 doesn't have a file named boot.iso at /mnt/iso/images.
There is a directory called pxeboot there, but it doesn't have any iso files
?
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:04 PM, linux guy wrote:
> Will these instructions for prior versions work for the F15 DVD iso ?
>
> Thanks
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I want to upgrade from F14 to F15. For whatever reason, the boot after
running preupgrade fails if I try to do it that way.
So now I would like to upgrade via the DVD iso.
I would like to do so without burning a DVD. I'd like to load the DVD iso
onto a USB flash storage device and boot it from
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 08:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> But then what do we say the function of rm is. Does it erase the files
> that are its arguments. It also does not erase the file anymore than
> format does.
It removes the file, or directory, from the directory *listing* (the
list of what'
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 12:02 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> Twisting the discussion to what words should mean is a futile exercise.
Pot, kettle black.
> Formatting a flash drive means what the gnome page says.
Formatting a drive only means what formatting a drive *actually* does,
not what peopl
For the record, I didn't say my system didn't have enough room on /boot. I
didn't receive any memory warnings or errors while running pre upgrade prior
to rebooting, so I don't think that is the case.
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On 08/28/2011 09:26 AM, Kam Leo wrote:
> You just gave an example of where preupgrade failed. It's amazing how
> people forget shortcomings in the program.
So you consider it a failure of preupgrade if the target system's /boot
doesn't have adequate space on it? Would you consider it a failure i
On 08/28/2011 12:26 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 08/27/2011 08:46 PM, linux guy wrote:
>>> I used to upgrade that way. I did miss the memo.
>>
>> So did I. The first time I used it was to go from F9 to F11 (I skipped
>> F10 because it had so many i
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/27/2011 08:46 PM, linux guy wrote:
>> I used to upgrade that way. I did miss the memo.
>
> So did I. The first time I used it was to go from F9 to F11 (I skipped
> F10 because it had so many install problems.) on my desktop. Since
> then
On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 15:54 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 00:21 +0930, Tim wrote:
> >
> > Fernando Cassia:
> > > I disagree. I think that is exactly what formatting means, laying
> > out
> > > a new file system, and erasing the contents in the process.
> >
> > You can think
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, linux guy wrote:
> The upgrade can only be run from a DVD iso.
>
> I found them here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats
You can also try a yum upgrade.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> But then what do we say the function of rm is. Does it erase the files
> that are its arguments. It also does not erase the file anymore than
> format does.
The man page says:
rm - remove files or directories
I think you can call that accu
The upgrade can only be run from a DVD iso.
I found them here:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats
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So which ISO does one use for an upgrade ? Does a Live ISO do it ? Or is
there another one ?
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On 08/28/2011 03:21 AM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote:
> slim started up fine when this machine was running Fedora 14. I installed it
> from for Fedora 15:
>
> slim-1.3.2-8.fc15.x86_64
>
> It doesn't start any more. I get this in /var/log/slim.log:
>
> slim: unexpected signal 15
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 00:51 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 17:54, Aaron Konstam
> wrote:
> It does mean erasing the files on the disk or other media. Now
> what does
> erasing mean. It means that any program whose purpose is to
> list
On 27/08/11 17:00, linux guy wrote:
> Here is my grub.conf file.
>
>
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE: You have a /boot p
On 8/27/2011 11:59 PM, Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
>> On 8/27/2011 5:10 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Mike Dwiggins
>>> wrote:
Does there exist a command or command string that will examine a Port
and report what applic
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
> On 8/27/2011 5:10 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
>>>
>>> Does there exist a command or command string that will examine a Port
>>> and report what application is locking that port?
>>
>> "netstat -n
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