Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 9:35 PM, David wrote: > On 2/5/2011 10:59 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 2/5/11 8:27 PM, David wrote: >>> On 2/5/2011 9:49 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: >> Windows cesspit. David: > Is this were we don the funny clothes, chant the funny words, and > sacrifice the lamb on the

Fedora metalink files

2011-02-05 Thread Andre Robatino
One of the selling points of using metalink files is that they can contain block checksums which allows repairing corrupted downloads (by re-downloading the bad blocks). If I understand the metalink man page, the only way to do this is to add the "sha1pieces" -d option. Fedora metalinks are of the

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread David
On 2/5/2011 10:59 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 2/5/11 8:27 PM, David wrote: >> On 2/5/2011 9:49 PM, Tim wrote: >>> Tim: > Windows cesspit. >>> David: Is this were we don the funny clothes, chant the funny words, and sacrifice the lamb on the sacred Alter of Linux? >>> Not yet... Th

Re: [OT] Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread g
On 02/06/2011 04:11 AM, James McKenzie wrote: <> >> how about a mod 2? >> > No. They appeared to be junk when Tandy introduced them. However they > were 8086 based. incorrect on both counts and they where z80. later the z80 system design was upgraded to mod 12 with z80 and m6800 or m6810. i

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/05/2011 07:59 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Puppy also supports Wine, right? I don't know; I've never tried, but it should. Check with http://puppylinux.org/ to be sure. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapr

Re: [OT] Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 9:07 PM, g wrote: > On 02/06/2011 04:02 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > <> > >> AND I thought I was old! > old is a state of mind and mine has not reached it yet. > >> Maybe if I can find a TRS-80 MOD III somewhere? > i got ride of a mod 3 about 20 years back. > > how about a mod 2? > No. Th

Re: [OT] Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread g
On 02/06/2011 04:02 AM, James McKenzie wrote: <> > AND I thought I was old! old is a state of mind and mine has not reached it yet. > Maybe if I can find a TRS-80 MOD III somewhere? i got ride of a mod 3 about 20 years back. how about a mod 2? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free w

Re: [OT] Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 5:45 PM, g wrote: > On 02/05/2011 02:43 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > <> >> Don't use my S100 systems much, either. > what system and what cpu? > > ria, i have 4 cromemco s100 systems with z80 and m68k that i am wanting to > convert to linux. > > i have posted to linux-m...@lists.linux-m68k.

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 5:31 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 10:30 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 02/05/2011 06:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> The only Linux you might get going on small memory machines is DSL (Damn >>> Small >>> Linux), although there are at least two other tiny distros out I h

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 11:30 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/05/2011 06:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> The only Linux you might get going on small memory machines is DSL (Damn >> Small >> Linux), although there are at least two other tiny distros out I haven't >> tried. > Puppy will work with as little as (I thin

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 8:27 PM, David wrote: > On 2/5/2011 9:49 PM, Tim wrote: >> Tim: Windows cesspit. >> David: >>> Is this were we don the funny clothes, chant the funny words, and >>> sacrifice the lamb on the sacred Alter of Linux? >> Not yet... The thread hasn't gone off-topic enough. > > Good. Then

RE: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread paul weston
i do believe you have had an unfortunate and rare occurrence while installing the most advanced linux OS i have been installing fedora since fedora 8 came out and up until the latest ubuntu came out (10.10) Fedora has been much easier for me personally to install. Usually taking a max of 3 hr

Re: Resizing PVs (was: Installation Impressions)

2011-02-05 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
http://fedorasolved.org/Members/zcat/shrink-lvm-for-new-partition Does that link have the information for handling the physical resizing? I had used the LVM option in the past, but have gone to making regular partitions on install, but do have some machines with old LVM setups. +--

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread David
On 2/5/2011 9:49 PM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> Windows cesspit. >> > David: >> Is this were we don the funny clothes, chant the funny words, and >> sacrifice the lamb on the sacred Alter of Linux? > > Not yet... The thread hasn't gone off-topic enough. Good. Then I did not miss the ceremony. I have

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread David
On 2/5/2011 11:06 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 2/5/11 8:26 AM, David wrote: >> On 2/5/2011 5:00 AM, Tim wrote: >>> On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 15:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: Again, this is said from the viewpoint of Joe User, who does not have the time to tweak. S/he wants a system that

Re: Upgrade FC11->14

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/05/2011 07:02 PM, Tim wrote: > An upgrade takes ages. It's got to assess what you've got, work out the > dependencies, etc. That's what's nice about using preupgrade. Start it going and then get on with whatever you were doing. Then, once it's done, you can reboot into the upgrade at th

Re: Upgrade FC11->14

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:54 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I have a laptop running fc11, with the non-boot partition encrypted > LUKS. Based on one bad experience with another system, and one fail > with a VM, just booting the DVD and asking it to upgrade is not the > way to a working system. While

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Windows cesspit. > David: > Is this were we don the funny clothes, chant the funny words, and > sacrifice the lamb on the sacred Alter of Linux? Not yet... The thread hasn't gone off-topic enough. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 10:40 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > I found this in my Junk folder on Thunderbird. Checking, it was sent > to "Undisclosed Recipients." Please don't do that, as I doubt I'm the > only one on this list who considers that a sign of spam. Possibly due to them posting through the gm

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:39 -0800, suvayu ali wrote: > Fedora uses a patched version of GRUB Legacy. It can read / partitions > on LVM but the /boot partition still needs to be ext* on disk. Hmm, isn't it more the case that the *kernel* reads the LVM partitions? GRUB starts loading the kernel, wh

Re: Default user groups

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Chris Smart wrote: > Or is there not such config and in the scripts (such as firstboot) it > passes the group options to adduser command? Maybe I'll just alias it.. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 02/05/2011 01:16 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> >> How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for >> wanting to try Fedora was to get quicker access to new features, so I'm >> really surprised to find that the first th

[OT] Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread g
On 02/05/2011 02:43 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: <> > Don't use my S100 systems much, either. what system and what cpu? ria, i have 4 cromemco s100 systems with z80 and m68k that i am wanting to convert to linux. i have posted to linux-m...@lists.linux-m68k.org, but as yet not had any responses from

Re: Default user groups

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > When you use the user add gui it puts that user into a group with his > username as the group name. Then you can use chgrp to put that user into > any group you want to. Sure, but I'm after a way to specify what groups a user should be added

Re: Default user groups

2011-02-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 09:50 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > Does anyone know where Fedora sets the default user groups for new users? > > Say I want to create a new user and have them automatically added to a > few more groups, how can one do that? > > Thanks! > -c > > -- > _ > °v° > /(_)\ > ^

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 10:30 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/05/2011 06:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > The only Linux you might get going on small memory machines is DSL (Damn > > Small > > Linux), although there are at least two other tiny distros out I haven't > > tried. > > Puppy will work wit

Re: Default user groups

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Smart
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Chris Smart wrote: > Does anyone know where Fedora sets the default user groups for new users? > Or is there not such config and in the scripts (such as firstboot) it passes the group options to adduser command? -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Resizing PVs (was: Installation Impressions)

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Nikolaus Rath said: > You can shrink a PV, but you will loose the extents that are stored in > the space that you have truncated. I don't consider that resizing. Changing the size of something is called resizing. > Unfortunately, pvmove can only move extends to other PVs but no

Re: Resizing PVs

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Sam Sharpe writes: > On 5 February 2011 22:15, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> You can shrink a PV, but you will loose the extents that are stored in >> the space that you have truncated. I don't consider that resizing. > > That's interesting. I do consider it resizing... It's not the function > of the p

Default user groups

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Smart
Does anyone know where Fedora sets the default user groups for new users? Say I want to create a new user and have them automatically added to a few more groups, how can one do that? Thanks! -c --   _  °v° /(_)\  ^ ^  Chris Smart -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Resizing PVs (was: Installation Impressions)

2011-02-05 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 5 February 2011 22:15, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > You can shrink a PV, but you will loose the extents that are stored in > the space that you have truncated. I don't consider that resizing. That's interesting. I do consider it resizing... It's not the function of the pvresize command to move the L

Resizing PVs (was: Installation Impressions)

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Sam Sharpe writes: > On 5 February 2011 20:53, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> JFTR, unfortunately PVs cannot be made smaller. The whole idea of LVM is >> to do all the resize operations *within* the containers. > > JFTR, unfortunately, you'll need to raise a bug against the pvresize > manpage then... >

Re: KRandRtray ??

2011-02-05 Thread Rex Dieter
Jim wrote: > F14/ KDE-4 > > KRandRTray, how does it work ? > > As User if you set resolution to the size you want and accept , after > Logging out of User and then log back in , the resolution setting has > changed. How do you as User lock in setting so it will not change. right click krandrt

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 5 February 2011 20:53, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > suvayu ali writes: >>> Ugh. So I have hundreds of free GBs in my LVM VGs, but I won't be able >>> to install Fedora? Is there no way around this? >> >> Well you have two options I think, >> >> 1. the obvious first, resize your LVMs to free 500 MB a

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/05/2011 12:53 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > JFTR, unfortunately PVs cannot be made smaller. The whole idea of LVM is > to do all the resize operations*within* the containers. This, however, is a special case because /boot needs to be a regular partition, not part of an LVM. Personally, for h

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
suvayu ali writes: >> Ugh. So I have hundreds of free GBs in my LVM VGs, but I won't be able >> to install Fedora? Is there no way around this? > > Well you have two options I think, > > 1. the obvious first, resize your LVMs to free 500 MB and use it as >/boot JFTR, unfortunately PVs cannot

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Gilboa Davara writes: > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora >> 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: > > I wonder, what exactly were you trying to achieve? > Beyond a possible (?) bu

RE: Advanced format drives with block errors

2011-02-05 Thread compdoc
> One of these drives had a faulty block which the drive had not been able to automatically relocate. Just curious, what's the reallocated sector count for the drive? And how many bad sectors do you feel comfortable with? I used to live with drives with a low reallocated sector count, but I rece

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/05/2011 01:16 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for > wanting to try Fedora was to get quicker access to new features, so I'm > really surprised to find that the first thing that I get in contact with > is an outdated GRUB... Grub-2.0

Advanced format drives with block errors

2011-02-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, Just a bit of info. I have some Western Digital Caviar Green (Adv. Format), WD20EARS drives. These have the "new" 4096 byte physical sector. One of these drives had a faulty block which the drive had not been able to automatically relocate. I tried to force a relocation by overwriting the blo

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/04/2011 02:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I found this in my Junk folder on Thunderbird. Checking, it was sent to "Undisclosed Recipients." Please don't do that, as I doub

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 20:29 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: > > I wonder, what exactly were you trying

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/05/2011 06:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > The only Linux you might get going on small memory machines is DSL (Damn Small > Linux), although there are at least two other tiny distros out I haven't > tried. Puppy will work with as little as (I think) 32 Meg. I know it works Just Fine on one

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I wonder, what exactly were you trying to achieve? Beyond a possible (?) bug report when dealing with your sw

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Fedora uses a patched version of GRUB Legacy. It can read / partitions >> on LVM but the /boot partition still needs to be ext* on disk. > > How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for > wanting to try Fedora was to g

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
suvayu ali writes: > I don't know about your other issues, but I'll try to answer the ones below. > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer >> complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works j

Re: Upgrade FC11->14

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/05/2011 09:54 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I have a laptop running fc11, with the non-boot partition encrypted LUKS. > Based > on one bad experience with another system, and one fail with a VM, just > booting > the DVD and asking it to upgrade is not the way to a working system. While I >

Re: Booting to text mode

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/05/2011 06:27 AM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 4 Feb 2011 at 23:45, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > >>> - Side question: There must be a way to boot into text mode (other >>> runlevel). How can I achieve that? - >> >> Yes, there is. At the Grub screen (before it times out and autoboots), >> select th

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread suvayu ali
I don't know about your other issues, but I'll try to answer the ones below. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer > complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works just > fine with Grub2, and

Re: Bash regex issue

2011-02-05 Thread Emmett Culley
On 02/05/2011 08:13 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 02/05/2011 09:51 AM, Emmett Culley wrote: >> I have a bash script I've been using in CentOS that no longer works in >> Fedora 14. The pertinent lines are: >> >> mac=`echo $2 | tr a-z A-Z` >> if [[ "$mac" =~ >> '[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:19:03 -0600 Thomas Paine wrote: > Honestly fedora is going to give you more trouble. I would install centos if > you want an rpm based install. It will save you headache when you get to the > pulse audio issues if you stay away from fedora. I don;t know about that. I hav

Re: Can't print to parallel port with Fedora 14

2011-02-05 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Elsner writes: Frank> On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:25:40 + Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> I have a laser printer which was working fine. Unfortunately the >> computer to which it was attached (which was running Fedora 12) >> proved to be sick. >> >> So I'

Re: Can't print to parallel port with Fedora 14

2011-02-05 Thread Frank Elsner
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:25:40 + Colin Paul Adams wrote: > I have a laser printer which was working fine. Unfortunately the > computer to which it was attached (which was running Fedora 12) proved > to be sick. > > So I've tried moving the printer to two other computers in turn (one > 32-bit, on

Can't print to parallel port with Fedora 14

2011-02-05 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I have a laser printer which was working fine. Unfortunately the computer to which it was attached (which was running Fedora 12) proved to be sick. So I've tried moving the printer to two other computers in turn (one 32-bit, one 64-bit) running Fedora 14. I cannot get it to work on either of them.

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas Paine
Honestly fedora is going to give you more trouble. I would install centos if you want an rpm based install. It will save you headache when you get to the pulse audio issues if you stay away from fedora. You can also use Ubuntu 10.10 which I am currently using. If you want to get fedora to install

Re: Bash regex issue

2011-02-05 Thread Robert Nichols
On 02/05/2011 09:51 AM, Emmett Culley wrote: > I have a bash script I've been using in CentOS that no longer works in Fedora > 14. The pertinent lines are: > > mac=`echo $2 | tr a-z A-Z` > if [[ "$mac" =~ > '[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9

Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I don't have a CD writer at hand, so I downloaded the netinstall image. Following the instructions in the installation guide, I copied vmlinuz and initrd.img from the .iso a

Re: Bash regex issue

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 8:51 AM, Emmett Culley wrote: > I have a bash script I've been using in CentOS that no longer works in Fedora > 14. The pertinent lines are: > > mac=`echo $2 | tr a-z A-Z` > if [[ "$mac" =~ > '[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread James McKenzie
On 2/5/11 8:26 AM, David wrote: > On 2/5/2011 5:00 AM, Tim wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 15:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >>> Again, this is said from the viewpoint of Joe User, who does not have >>> the time to tweak. S/he wants a system that works OUT OF THE BOX, >>> with the hardware they h

Bash regex issue

2011-02-05 Thread Emmett Culley
I have a bash script I've been using in CentOS that no longer works in Fedora 14. The pertinent lines are: mac=`echo $2 | tr a-z A-Z` if [[ "$mac" =~ '[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]:[0-9A-F][0-9A-F]' ]]; then echo 'good' else echo 'Inval

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread David
On 2/5/2011 5:00 AM, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 15:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> Again, this is said from the viewpoint of Joe User, who does not have >> the time to tweak. S/he wants a system that works OUT OF THE BOX, >> with the hardware they have. > > Then Windows isn't for them

Re: Upgrade FC11->14

2011-02-05 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I have a laptop running fc11, with the non-boot partition encrypted LUKS. > Based > on one bad experience with another system, and one fail with a VM, just > booting > the DVD and asking it to upgrade is not the way to a working system. Whil

Re: Booting to text mode

2011-02-05 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 13:27 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > Is it possible to set up the Grub screen to allow a choice to boot into > either text or graphics mode? Yes. Just edit grub.conf and copy the same stanza you are booting from, then add "3" to the end of the kernel line. Probably want to ch

Upgrade FC11->14

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
I have a laptop running fc11, with the non-boot partition encrypted LUKS. Based on one bad experience with another system, and one fail with a VM, just booting the DVD and asking it to upgrade is not the way to a working system. While I can certainly backup /home and reinstall, there are a fair

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Jim wrote: >>> Fedora 14 / KDE >>> >>> Today my Thunderbird-3.1.7 crashed and sent all my 1500 emails to the >>> Trash Can. Thunderbird was taking so long to compact and other >>> things

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
James McKenzie wrote: > > If I could get Fedora or CentOS running on my old Thinkpad, I would move > back to Linux. I would have to go find an external DVD player. > And MacOS just works on that? Wow, who knew? I bet you installed it from the firewire port. The only Linux you might get going o

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 22.01.2011, Jim wrote: > >> In Fedora is there a better email Browser ? > > I've been using mutt all my life, and never lost a single email. > However, it's text only. > > http://www.mutt.org > I think if I wanted text only (and I do for some accounts) I will stick to alpin

Re: Aspect ratio issues Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC

2011-02-05 Thread Linux_Sle
On 02/05/2011 10:36 AM, kellyremo wrote: yes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=594G6net Can you determine which graphics driver is being loaded? Intel or generic Vesa? Sudhir -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fed

Booting to text mode

2011-02-05 Thread Steve Hayes
On 4 Feb 2011 at 23:45, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > - Side question: There must be a way to boot into text mode (other > > runlevel). How can I achieve that? - > > Yes, there is. At the Grub screen (before it times out and autoboots), > select the kernel you want to boot from the list, and hit

Re: Aspect ratio issues Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC

2011-02-05 Thread kellyremo
yes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=594G6net On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:24:24 -0800 Linux_Sle wrote On 02/05/2011 10:07 AM, kellyremo wrote: http://i.imgur.com/wReYv.png And theres no Hardware Accelerated 3D for this laptop? Even proprietary? Please help!

Re: "fatal error occurred when installing the module-init-tools"

2011-02-05 Thread kellyremo
ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/14/Fedora/i386/iso/ On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:31:11 -0800 Linux_Sle wrote On 02/05/2011 04:21 AM, kellyremo wrote: i burned 5 cds [Fedora 14 i386] but when the install starts: "fatal error oc

Re: "fatal error occurred when installing the module-init-tools"

2011-02-05 Thread Linux_Sle
On 02/05/2011 05:04 AM, kellyremo wrote: a funny thing happened. when the installer asks that what repositories do i want, i always ticked fedora i386, and updates. if i doesn't tick them, and only leave the "standard" installer repository - then the installer doesn't gives the error message

Re: "fatal error occurred when installing the module-init-tools"

2011-02-05 Thread Linux_Sle
On 02/05/2011 04:21 AM, kellyremo wrote: i burned 5 cds [Fedora 14 i386] but when the install starts: "fatal error occurred when installing the module-init-tools" "exit install" :( the laptop is a HP Compaq 610 i'm running a memtest on the Fedora 14 CD, but no errors found i had checked th

Re: Aspect ratio issues Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC

2011-02-05 Thread Linux_Sle
On 02/05/2011 10:07 AM, kellyremo wrote: http://i.imgur.com/wReYv.png And theres no Hardware Accelerated 3D for this laptop? Even proprietary? Please help! Does your laptop have an intel graphics chip? Sudhir -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Aspect ratio issues Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC

2011-02-05 Thread kellyremo
http://i.imgur.com/wReYv.png And theres no Hardware Accelerated 3D for this laptop? Even proprietary? Please help! On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:40:15 -0800 kellyremo wrote Dear community! I have a Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=594G6net

RE: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 14:35 -0700, compdoc wrote: > 98SE was a stable OS Don't make me laugh! -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: Is there a better Alternative to Thunderbird ?

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 15:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > Again, this is said from the viewpoint of Joe User, who does not have > the time to tweak. S/he wants a system that works OUT OF THE BOX, > with the hardware they have. Then Windows isn't for them, either. I don't know of a single home

Aspect ratio issues Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC

2011-02-05 Thread kellyremo
Dear community! I have a Compaq 610 - VC275EA#AKC http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=594G6net my screens aspect ratio is not good :S i'm googling it for hours now, but without luck e.g.: i found this.. http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1431329 how can i install [are there any] good dri

Re: Hardware for Gnome3

2011-02-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:13 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mike cloaked > wrote: > > > Now downloading the live image linked from the test day page and will > > use that as soon as I get a block of time to test. > > I did take an hour this evening to run a test on a la