Re: [FALSE ALARM] Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:16:13 -0700, Paul wrote: > >> When you run "yum update", watch out for more plugins. From time to time > >> there are users who are hit by non-default plugins which exclude > >> thousands > >> of packages due to misconfiguration or bugs. > > > > Michael: > > > > Can you ela

Re: PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2010 06:19 PM, Thierry Vanden Broucke wrote: > #selinuxenabled 0 That's really not necessary. Fedora's packages work just fine with SELinux enabled, and non-Fedora packages probably aren't even restricted by policy. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2010 05:23 PM, Nermin Celik wrote: > I've downloaded PostgreSql from http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/8.3/, however > when I try access it from the termnial line it doesn't work and gives > the following warning. Is there a reason you did that, when Fedora provides PostgreSQL packages? # yum ins

Re: Verizon and Comcast email challenges

2010-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2010 02:39 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: > > Recently (over the last six months?), Verizon has blocked smtp requests on > port 25 to our mail server hosted on our machine (brama.com). It seems > that this isn't just our box, but a policy that Verizon has implemented > widely, forcing Verizon patro

Re: Fedora 13 installation, does not boot

2010-07-20 Thread Harald Hoyer
You might want to edit /etc/grub.conf in rescue and remove "quiet" and "rhgb" and add "rdinit rd_NO_PLYMOUTH" to the Kernel command line. On Wednesday, July 21, 2010, Vincent Onelli wrote: >> From: "Darr" > >> >> H... if grub's boot menu never appears, how do you know >> >> there's only 1 ke

Re: F 13 installation trouble

2010-07-20 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 10:00 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > I did a fresh text based install on my system today. > > On boot, I get: > > "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on > unknown-block(0,0)" > > Can you folks please tell me how to get around this? I googled up

F 13 installation trouble

2010-07-20 Thread Ankur Sinha
hi, I did a fresh text based install on my system today. On boot, I get: "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" Can you folks please tell me how to get around this? I googled up and it looks like a grub issue or something, but I haven't been able to co

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

2010-07-20 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. > > This is on the mail RPM Fusion page > > You can get support for RPM Fusion in most of the usual Fedora discussion > places -- e.g. fedora-list, #fedora on freenode and fedoraforum.org. > yup. it's there. pretty generous of them (RPM Fusion)

Re: Phone calls from laptop

2010-07-20 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 16:29 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > While I can only imagine *why* the OP would ever want this kind of > thing, I believe this could be possible in principle, provided that > the modem can send arbitrary analog signal over the wire. If his > hardware is ok, it's just a quest

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Miles
On 07/19/2010 07:17 PM, David wrote: On 7/19/2010 9:17 PM, Michael Miles wrote: On 07/19/2010 05:51 PM, David wrote: On 7/19/2010 7:41 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Obviously the previous kernel worked correct? Why not use that one? I am using the previous kernel. I just lik

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:21 -0400, Michael Semcheski wrote: > With a private cloud, there'd be one group that does all the servers. > That one group purchases the hardware autonomously, uses fancy tools > to monitor the hardware, has a room with redundant power and redundant > cooling. Individual

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 23:16 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > You made the wrong assumption that I used Forward function of the mail > client (gmail itself). It was only the Reply function, I used. Well, the in-reply-to headers are missing, and they're automatically created when you hit reply (when u

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 03:00 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote: > > That is the whole point. Ideally this is how it works from a ptactical > > point of view: > > > > I am the Dean of Engineering and we need to run a massive simulation of > > a type

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > When people invest their money into something, they want to be "in charge" of > it. And if they are supposed to share it with others, there is bound to be a > lot of friction. One of the key ideas that makes Amazon's EC2 and S3 successful

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 23:18:11 Phil Meyer wrote: > On 07/20/2010 03:38 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > > While there are quite a lot of advantages to this there are some > > disadvantages, particularly in the research setting you describe where > > each department will have its own set of grants which

Re: PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Nermin Celik
Thank you Thierry :) On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Thierry Vanden Broucke < cloudy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Extra to the last message > > Set Method to (trust) in vi /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf if no security > is needed. > > # TYPE DATABASEUSERCIDR-ADDRESS METHOD > >

Re: PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Thierry Vanden Broucke
Extra to the last message Set Method to (trust) in vi /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf if no security is needed. # TYPE DATABASEUSERCIDR-ADDRESS METHOD # "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only local all all trust # IPv4 lo

Re: Still no kmod for new nvidia

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Miles
On 07/20/2010 09:44 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Michael Miles > wrote: I am finding it hard to deal with as RPMFusion and Fedora are two seperate thing but when it blocks a update then yes I do think it is a Fedora iss

Re: PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Thierry Vanden Broucke
#selinuxenabled 0 #/etc/init.d/postgresql restart #psql -U postgres 2010/7/20 Nermin Celik > Hi All, > > I've downloaded PostgreSql from http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/8.3/, however > when I try access it from the termnial line it doesn't work and gives the > following warning. > > $ psql > psql: co

F12: tail -f inside .gvfs filesystem fails?

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
I cannot get a tail -f inside of .gvfs with a remote mounted ntfs filesystem as done via Nautilus->Places->Network - this has worked prior to F12. Has anyone tried this on F12/13 and got it to work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

PostgreSql question

2010-07-20 Thread Nermin Celik
Hi All, I've downloaded PostgreSql from http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/8.3/, however when I try access it from the termnial line it doesn't work and gives the following warning. $ psql psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting conne

Re: Encrypted VM's (was Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...)

2010-07-20 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/20/2010 03:11 PM, Michael Semcheski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, wrote: >> Just in general, what's the point in having server-disks (either local or >> "in-the-cloud" encrypted? >> As soon as you start them up, all we be de-crypted and your system is only >> protected by norm

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 15:57 -0700, JD wrote: > > This is one aspect to be certain. Most organizations will tell you that > > they were drawn to highly virtualized and cloud based infrastructure for > > the potential savings gained by compressing the data center footprint > > (reductions in power,

Re: Fedora 13 installation, does not boot

2010-07-20 Thread Vincent Onelli
> From: "Darr" > >> H... if grub's boot menu never appears, how do you know > >> there's only 1 kernel listed in it? > >> > >> If grub's boot menu never appears, how do you choose to run > >> windows or fedora? > >> > > By looking in the directory /lib/modules, while I am in the command > >

F13 Security Lab

2010-07-20 Thread Thom Paine
Has anyone successfully installed the F13 Security Lab on an Acer Aspire One? I was thinking of retasking my old acer and make it useful again. I have the original AAO Model ZG5. It came with linux and has the 8G ssd hard drive in it. I'd like to be able to get it working and be able to drop it o

[FALSE ALARM] Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/20/2010 3:36 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > comments inline and at tail > > On 7/20/2010 2:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:11 -0700, Paul wrote: >> >>> I also wanted to check about what >>> exactly "clean metadata" was going to do [...] >> It is safe to run. The com

Re: Trying to understand input/output error seen while reading newly burned dvd+r

2010-07-20 Thread D Wyatt
On 7/20/2010 9:31 AM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 23:29 -0700, JD wrote: >> What I also do to reduce the likelihood of a bad burn, is I reduce >> the burn speed to 2x. Burning at 52X (cdr) or 22X (dvdr) will have >> a higher likelihood of a bad burn. Some will say this is bunk. I say >> I ha

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 02:31 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:18 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 20 July 2010 21:49, JD wrote: >>> On 07/20/2010 01:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:13:41 -0700 JD wrote: > Work directly with our customers to

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:32 PM, suvayu ali > wrote: > On 20 July 2010 15:21, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > So Adalbert's "rpm -e preload" advice is good advice. > It's not wrong advice, but it's not "good" advice, either. > > The package state is kept entirely in the rpm database - it is safe,

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
comments inline and at tail On 7/20/2010 2:04 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:11 -0700, Paul wrote: > > >> I also wanted to check about what >> exactly "clean metadata" was going to do [...] >> > It is safe to run. The command deletes the local repository metadata

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread suvayu ali
On 20 July 2010 15:21, Cameron Simpson wrote: > So Adalbert's "rpm -e preload" advice is good advice. > > It happens that nothing depends on preload (I know this because I > routinely remove it from systems because it modifies binaries and that > sets off annoying alerts in our integrity monitorin

Re: Fedora 13 installation, does not boot

2010-07-20 Thread Darr
On Tuesday, 20 July, 2010 @17:22 zulu, Vincent Onelli scribed: >> H... if grub's boot menu never appears, how do you know >> there's only 1 kernel listed in it? >> >> If grub's boot menu never appears, how do you choose to run >> windows or fedora? >> > By looking in the directory /lib/modules

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 20Jul2010 13:39, Rudolf Kastl wrote: | 2010/7/20 Suvayu Ali : | > On Tuesday 20 July 2010 01:19 AM, Adalbert Prokop wrote: | >> A simple | >> | >> su -c "rpm -e preload" | >> | >> will also work. | > | > However that is not recommended, at least that is what I know. This | > leaves yum in a sta

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Phil Meyer
On 07/20/2010 03:38 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 20 July 2010 18:21, Michael Semcheski wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> >>> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing >>> up, >>> what is the difference between having a

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Suvayu Ali > To: us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:12:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: how to uninstall preload? > Hi Parshwa, > I think you are mistaken. The quoted text in your messages have the message > headers like this, (note

Re: XPCOM

2010-07-20 Thread Don Vogt
> -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:39:54 -0500 > From: "Smith, Herb" > Subject: RE: XPCOM > To: Community support for Fedora users > Message-ID: >     <14589a0eeb7c16439ba2fde75ed750a5129c59d...@xch-mw-02v.mw.nos.boeing.com> >     > Content-Type: text/pl

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Alex wrote: > > > From an xterm Edit > Preferences will get you a menu. At l;east it > >does with my XFCE desktop. > > No such capability with the default GNOME xterm, apparently. > There's no such thing as GNOME xterm. The GNOME Terminal application is

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Timothy Murphy
Gordon Messmer wrote: >> I would imagine the "-y" would be rather dangerous, >> as "yum remove" often tries to remove many packages >> required by other applications. > > I don't think that's quite true. If you tell yum to remove a package, > it'll remove that package and any package that requir

Verizon and Comcast email challenges

2010-07-20 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, Apologies if this isn't the appropriate forum. Recently (over the last six months?), Verizon has blocked smtp requests on port 25 to our mail server hosted on our machine (brama.com). It seems that this isn't just our box, but a policy that Verizon has implemented widely, forcing Veriz

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 July 2010 18:21, Michael Semcheski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing up, >> what is the difference between having a server (possibly virtualized), and >> having a server "on the clou

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:18 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 20 July 2010 21:49, JD wrote: > > On 07/20/2010 01:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:13:41 -0700 > >> JD wrote: > >> > >>> Work directly with our customers to create Salesforce based solutions > >> Now it is all clear.

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 July 2010 21:49, JD wrote: >  On 07/20/2010 01:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:13:41 -0700 >> JD wrote: >> >>> Work directly with our customers to create Salesforce based solutions >> Now it is all clear. Cloud computing is a sales gimmick. >> >> I bet it is almost as mea

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/20/2010 04:11 PM, Alex wrote: > Maybe someone has a .Xdefaults or .xtermrc they've customized and > think would be helpful? OK, you asked, here are some snippets from my *OLD* .Xdefaults file that I think might be relevant. I started this file back when it was X11R3, and used it in R4 as we

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/21/2010 12:05 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > I believe what Timothy meant was something along the lines of what > happens if you try to remove, say, xorg-x11-server-Xorg, which would > probably result in the removal of every GUI application since they all > depend on an X server. This is an obvious

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:45:11 -0700, Paul wrote: > The output of "yum -v repolist" follows (I am "su -l root" to run yum). > Before I do the "yum clean metadata", I wanted to give a chance to > comment on the repolist output. Looks fine. > I also wanted to check about what > exactly "clean met

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:25 -0700, JD wrote: > > So now we're posting job listings that don't even *mention* Fedora? > > Please don't do this. > > > > poc > > > I was merely trying to say that jobs in > cloud computing are already out there . > It is relevant to fedora, because RH has > decided to

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 01:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:13:41 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> Work directly with our customers to create Salesforce based solutions > Now it is all clear. Cloud computing is a sales gimmick. > > I bet it is almost as meaningful a term at .Net :-). Maybe so, but

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/20/2010 1:25 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:14:26 -0700, Paul wrote: > > >> I've been offline for quite awhile and today went in to do a yum update >> to my system. I last did this on 14feb10. It claimed that there was a >> flash plugin update and that was it. Nothing

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:13:41 -0700 JD wrote: > Work directly with our customers to create Salesforce based solutions Now it is all clear. Cloud computing is a sales gimmick. I bet it is almost as meaningful a term at .Net :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 01:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:13 -0700, JD wrote: >> Original Message >> Subject: [KITlist-Tech] Exciting Salesforce/CRM Consultant Position (SF >> Bay Area, CA) >> Date:Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:15:15 -0700 >> From:K

Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:14:26 -0700, Paul wrote: > I've been offline for quite awhile and today went in to do a yum update > to my system. I last did this on 14feb10. It claimed that there was a > flash plugin update and that was it. Nothing from Fedora. This strikes > me very strange. How abou

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 01:11 PM, Alex wrote: >>> Be a bit more specific. Whar colors do you wish to change. >>> >>> The font color can be set like this: >>> >>> xterm -bg black -fg yellow other args > Yes, I'd like to configure things like backgound color, default font, > position of the scrollbar

Re: Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:13 -0700, JD wrote: > > Original Message > Subject: [KITlist-Tech] Exciting Salesforce/CRM Consultant Position (SF > Bay Area, CA) > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:15:15 -0700 > From: KIT List Jobs > To: kitlist-t...@yahoogroups.com S

yum update and f12

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
I've been offline for quite awhile and today went in to do a yum update to my system. I last did this on 14feb10. It claimed that there was a flash plugin update and that was it. Nothing from Fedora. This strikes me very strange. My quick searches showed questions about yum and f13, but I didn'

Jobs in Cloud Computing

2010-07-20 Thread JD
Original Message Subject:[KITlist-Tech] Exciting Salesforce/CRM Consultant Position (SF Bay Area, CA) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:15:15 -0700 From: KIT List Jobs To: kitlist-t...@yahoogroups.com Please direct your responses to: csex...@apprivo.com Are you pr

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Alex
>> Be a bit more specific. Whar colors do you wish to change. >> >> The font color can be set like this: >> >> xterm -bg black -fg yellow other args Yes, I'd like to configure things like backgound color, default font, position of the scrollbar, etc. Maybe someone has a .Xdefaults or .xte

Re: My laptop Speakers Doesn't Mute then i connect the headphones on FC13

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 12:05 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 07/20/2010 12:58 PM, JD wrote: >>On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: >> >>> With the command alsamixer -c 0 i get this options: >>> Master --- PCM --- Mic -- Mic Boos --- Beep --- Dock --- Dock Mic >>> Dock mic boost --

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Palser
I have had enough, take this meaningless talk somewhere else, I am tired of getting 100's of stupid Fedora messages like these On 07/20/2010 03:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote: >>> What's a YAA?

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:18:40 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-) UNA! (Use No Acronyms :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelin

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote: >> What's a YAA? > > YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-) > But it's also a TLA -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote: > What's a YAA? YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelin

Re: Encrypted VM's (was Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...)

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, wrote: > Just in general, what's the point in having server-disks (either local or > "in-the-cloud" encrypted? > As soon as you start them up, all we be de-crypted and your system is only > protected by normal security measures. > > Only usefull purpose might be

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Ok, I understand what you are saying, but what you actually describe is an > organizational issue, while I was having in mind a little bit more technical > aspect. No, what I'm describing is a situation. That situation developed over time

Re: My laptop Speakers Doesn't Mute then i connect the headphones on FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 07/20/2010 12:58 PM, JD wrote: > On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: > >> With the command alsamixer -c 0 i get this options: >> Master --- PCM --- Mic -- Mic Boos --- Beep --- Dock --- Dock Mic >> Dock mic boost --- Internal mic --- Internal mic boost >> >> Nothing

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:41 -0400, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Say, since you have hands-on experience with this, would > > you mind helping me understand the idea itself? > > > > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set > > the who

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
> My general understanding of any IT concept is that it has > two aspects --- > design and implementation. If cloud computing is purely a > design thing that is > being implemented via other (existing) technologies wrapped > together, then > it's just abstract terminology (which is yet to be def

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 20/07/10 14:32, JD wrote: >On 07/20/2010 11:08 AM, Alex wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've just installed FC13 and have a few general questions. >> >> - Configuring xterm: How can I configure the colors and fonts on an >> xterm? Do I still have to use xfontsel, etc, or is there a more modern >>

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 18:21:58 Michael Semcheski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing > > up, what is the difference between having a server (possibly > > virtualized), and having a serve

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Greg Woods
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:21 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/20/2010 03:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > > I would imagine the "-y" would be rather dangerous, > > as "yum remove" often tries to remove many packages > > required by other applications. > > I don't think that's quite true. If

Re: Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 11:08 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed FC13 and have a few general questions. > > - Configuring xterm: How can I configure the colors and fonts on an > xterm? Do I still have to use xfontsel, etc, or is there a more modern > way? > > - Google Desktop: I've downloaded an

Re: [389-users] Preventing ssh keys from granting a user access when LDAP account is disabled.

2010-07-20 Thread Gerrard Geldenhuis
> > >From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org >[389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Gordon Messmer >[yiny...@eburg.com] >Sent: 20 July 2010 18:32 >To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. >Subject: Re: [38

RE: Encrypted VM's (was Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...)

2010-07-20 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Michael Semcheski Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:03 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Encrypted VM's (was Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...)

f13: nvidia / nouveau / kernel 2.6.33

2010-07-20 Thread Chris Rouch
I have a laptop with an nvidia GeForce 9200M GS card in it. Until recently I was running f12 and the rpmfusion rpms, without any problems. Now I have installed f13 and am having problems. If i use the rpmfusion kmod rpms (or the atrmps kmdls or the binary installation from nvidia) then i get prob

Re: [389-users] Windows Replication Agreement Help

2010-07-20 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:05 -0600, Rich Megginson wrote: > --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > > > >> > >> ? Note that winsync will not add sub-ou containers > > > > In AD we have the standard mappings of CN=Users,DC=ad,DC=domain,DC=com and > > we are trying to sync a

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Parshwa, >> > By the way, please REPLY to messages by using the "reply" function of >> > your mail client, NOT the "forward" feature. > > You made the wrong assumption that I used Forward function of the mail > client (gmail itself). It was only the Reply function, I used. > I think you are

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 11:06 AM, Michael Semcheski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Antonio Olivares > wrote: >> It was a legitimate question, since I read somewhere that Ubuntu was using >> some kind of cloud service and how does one disable it. >> >> Is there some kind of guarantee that Fedo

Configuring FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Alex
Hi, I've just installed FC13 and have a few general questions. - Configuring xterm: How can I configure the colors and fonts on an xterm? Do I still have to use xfontsel, etc, or is there a more modern way? - Google Desktop: I've downloaded and installed the Google desktop RPM, but it seems to o

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > It was a legitimate question, since I read somewhere that Ubuntu was using > some kind of cloud service and how does one disable it. > > Is there some kind of guarantee that Fedora will not force one to store /home > on a "Cloud server s

Re: F13 network and wpa_supplicant startup sequence

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 10:54 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:55:02 -0700 JD wrote: >>On 07/20/2010 08:28 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:12:29 -0500 (CDT) lxnf9...@comcast.net wrote: I added a wireless card to a machine that has no gui interface installed, >>>

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Gordon Messmer > To: Community support for Fedora users > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:21:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: how to uninstall preload? > On 07/20/2010 03:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I don't think that's quite true.  If you tell yum to remove

Re: F13 network and wpa_supplicant startup sequence

2010-07-20 Thread Frank Elsner
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:55:02 -0700 JD wrote: > On 07/20/2010 08:28 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:12:29 -0500 (CDT) lxnf9...@comcast.net wrote: > >> I added a wireless card to a machine that has no gui interface installed, > >> so no NM > >> I configured wpa_supplicant and wl

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > Antonio, > > Clearly, you are just playing devil's advocate since the > answers to your questions are contained in a document that > has already been quoted once in the replies to your initial > post.  In fact, that document is a mere two clicks awa

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Suvayu Ali > To: us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:31:43 -0700 > Subject: Re: how to uninstall preload? > On Tuesday 20 July 2010 04:39 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> >> 2010/7/20 Suvayu Ali: >>> >>> >  On Tuesday 20 July 2010 0

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> -- Forwarded message -- > From: Rudolf Kastl > To: Community support for Fedora users > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:39:33 +0200 > Subject: Re: how to uninstall preload? > 2010/7/20 Suvayu Ali : >> On Tuesday 20 July 2010 01:19 AM, Adalbert Prokop wrote: >>> A simple >>> >>> su -c

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew J. Roth
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Say, since you have hands-on experience with this, would > you mind helping me understand the idea itself? > > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set > the whole thing up, what is the difference between having > a server (possibly

Re: [389-users] Preventing ssh keys from granting a user access when LDAP account is disabled.

2010-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2010 09:45 AM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote: > Hi There is a bugzilla raised concerns users still being able to > login if they have ssh keys even if there ldap account is disabled. Define "disabled". If your only flag is the userpassword field, you won't find a good solution to this proble

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 10:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/20/2010 10:38 PM, JD wrote: >> Will there be a way to remove this feature from one's installation? >> The web site you refer has in it more of how-to's for ops. >> I hope that one can reconfigure the kernel to disable cloud altogether. >> > "C

Re: My laptop Speakers Doesn't Mute then i connect the headphones on FC13

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 10:06 AM, fred smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:59:11AM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: >>> With the command alsamixer -c 0 i get this options: >>> Master --- PCM --- Mic -- Mic Boos --- Beep --- Dock --- Dock Mic >>> Dock

Re: Fedora 13 installation, does not boot

2010-07-20 Thread Vincent Onelli
> From: "Darr" > On Tuesday, 20 July, 2010 @01:00 zulu, Vincent Onelli scribed: > > > I couldn't not remove any thing. Grub.conf apparently is a non > > editable file > > we were not advising to edit the grub.conf file. > > If the kernel arguments from the boot menu are edited, they > return

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Specifically, assuming that I have my own hardware to set the whole thing up, > what is the difference between having a server (possibly virtualized), and > having a server "on the cloud"? And what is the main benefit of the latter > over

Re: how to uninstall preload?

2010-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2010 03:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I would imagine the "-y" would be rather dangerous, > as "yum remove" often tries to remove many packages > required by other applications. I don't think that's quite true. If you tell yum to remove a package, it'll remove that package and any pa

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/20/2010 10:41 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >> What cloud committee? >> >> > Sorry I did not post that, I forgot about it. I read that Red Hat was > exploring the "Cloud computing/Cloud Services" like Google, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu > and

Re: F13 network and wpa_supplicant startup sequence

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 08:55 AM, lxnf9...@comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Frank Elsner wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:12:29 -0500 (CDT) lxnf9...@comcast.net wrote: >>> I added a wireless card to a machine that has no gui interface installed, >>> so no NM >>> I configured wpa_supplicant and

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/20/2010 10:38 PM, JD wrote: > > Will there be a way to remove this feature from one's installation? > The web site you refer has in it more of how-to's for ops. > I hope that one can reconfigure the kernel to disable cloud altogether. > "Cloud computing" isn't a kernel feature to disable

[SOLVED] Re: RAID adventures

2010-07-20 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 07/19/2010 05:09 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> so I sized it down a bit: >> # mdadm --grow -z 293033472 --backup-file=/root/grow_md0_size.bak /dev/md0 > And there is your error. > You resized the device without first resizing the fileystem. > > The filesystem is *in*

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > From: Rahul Sundaram > Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ... > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:56 AM > On 07/20/2010 10:19 PM, Antonio > Olivares wrote: > > > > Did I say that?  You are adding

Re: My laptop Speakers Doesn't Mute then i connect the headphones on FC13

2010-07-20 Thread Steve Underwood
On 07/21/2010 12:59 AM, JD wrote: >On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: > >> With the command alsamixer -c 0 i get this options: >> Master --- PCM --- Mic -- Mic Boos --- Beep --- Dock --- Dock Mic >> Dock mic boost --- Internal mic --- Internal mic boost >> >> Nothin

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 08:31 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> What are the implicit and explicit impacts on the Fedora >> distribution? >> >> -- > Fedora would be used/utilized for the experimentation/design of the "Cloud" > > See this: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Cloud_Infrastructure_SOP > >

Re: My laptop Speakers Doesn't Mute then i connect the headphones on FC13

2010-07-20 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:59:11AM -0700, JD wrote: > On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: > > With the command alsamixer -c 0 i get this options: > > Master --- PCM --- Mic -- Mic Boos --- Beep --- Dock --- Dock Mic > > Dock mic boost --- Internal mic --- Internal mic boo

Re: Phone calls from laptop

2010-07-20 Thread JD
On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday, July 19, 2010 23:57:52 Bill Davidsen wrote: >> RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: >>> My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect >>> the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make >>> calls. H

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