Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/16/2010 12:57 AM, Tim wrote: Well, considering that the PSU is only a 90 watt-er, a simple motherboard with only on-board i810, low amount of RAM, no daughterboards, etc., it's going to use less power than a new box full of stuff, with heatsinks radiating heat everywhere... And it certainl

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 23:48 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I would suggest you find out how much Celeron is really using before > thinking it is low power. Well, considering that the PSU is only a 90 watt-er, a simple motherboard with only on-board i810, low amount of RAM, no daughterboards,

Re: Converting efax .efx files

2010-02-15 Thread Raman Gupta
> John Poelstra wrote: > Has anyone figured out a way to convert the files created by the free > faxing services from efax.com (efx format) to another format like PDF or > tiff? You can send them an email and ask them to configure your account to send you a tiff file instead of efx. They did it f

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread suvayu ali
On 16 February 2010 05:48, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 02/15/2010 11:44 PM, Tim wrote: > > For my computers, I've stuck with old, low power, ~500 MHz Celerons to > work my file and mail server. It's more than fast enough for that task, > and doesn't use much power. I've one moderately powerf

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/15/2010 11:44 PM, Tim wrote: For my computers, I've stuck with old, low power, ~500 MHz Celerons to work my file and mail server. It's more than fast enough for that task, and doesn't use much power. I've one moderately powerful desktop and laptop computer. I would suggest you find

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 20:52 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > I went to all kinds of effort and expense to build the very most > powerful Xeon box I could afford. > > What I didn't realize, was that it would generate so much heat that I > would not be able to tolerate its use with my windo

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: >> You do realise that there is a fedora arm port right?  I run it on my beagle >> board and sheva plug.  it runs nicely Ah, thanks - I did not know. I'll definitely check it out. > in brazil the energy cost's alot of money, and arm do

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
> You do realise that there is a fedora arm port right?  I run it on my beagle > board and sheva plug.  it runs nicely > > Dennis > that's true, runs very nice, very stable. in brazil the energy cost's alot of money, and arm don't wast energy, I am very happy with my Lord Sheeva running Fedora a

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 15 February 2010 09:36:57 pm Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > Perhaps the Ubuntu Netbook Remix would serve your needs. > > Ubuntu also support ARM microprocessors, which these days are commonly > used for mobile phones, but which soon will also be used for netbooks. > > The ARM archite

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:39:25 -0800 > jack craig wrote: > > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. >> > > oh? Not that I have heard. > I think the OP misspoke slightly. "I'm sure you've heard the news: Moblin and

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:39:25 -0800 jack craig wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. oh? Not that I have heard. > My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. > > Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? I have a Eeepc 900a with 5

Re: How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 17:23 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: > As I already said, the only sound I can get at the present time is > analog sound on my computer. I suppose my HD TV doesn't accept analog > sound, at least not through an HDMI cable. If you mean HDMI as per one of these

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
Perhaps the Ubuntu Netbook Remix would serve your needs. Ubuntu also support ARM microprocessors, which these days are commonly used for mobile phones, but which soon will also be used for netbooks. The ARM architecture is vastly superior to x86 when power consumption - or battery life - is an im

Re: Sendmail help sought

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
Tim: >> One problem with such simple masquerading is when you send out a mail >> using a local LAN address, it fakes your local domain to be the ISP's >> domain, and that constructed address happens to be the same address as >> someone else on your ISP. Gene: > That is -not- correct. The outside

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:28 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Although for POP3, Evo still apparently doesn't support the option to > "delete on server when deleting locally", which would be handy. That's harder to do, as that depends on keeping track of message numbers on the server, and how they

Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread Chris Tyler
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 18:39 -0800, jack craig wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. > > My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. > > Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Hi Jack, (1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead?

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
fred smith: >> It's NOT a shared printer. it is attached to the LAN with its own IP address. Aaron Konstam: > Even so it needs to shared on the server that is distributing its > services to the rest of the machines. Or are you connecting it to each > computer independently. No, that's not how suc

Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?

2010-02-15 Thread jack craig
Hi Folks, I regret to report that Moblin, my hope for a mobile linux, is dead. My hw is Asus, EeePC 1000, 1GB ram, 40GB disk. Anyone running FC (11 maybe?) on hw like this? Thx, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-692

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 05:46:25PM -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:20 -0500, fred smith wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:12:54PM +, Tim Waugh wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 04:07 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > > > I don't know if this will help but sometimes I

Re: Spot's chromium repo temporary removed

2010-02-15 Thread Mail Lists
On 02/15/2010 06:09 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: the question is: > > is there another binaries for f12 i686 ? or we just switch to google > chrome (not open source) > > > Thanks for advance, > Best regards. > His version didnt work properly - java was not working - dont know why - he never

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:20 -0500, fred smith wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:12:54PM +, Tim Waugh wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 04:07 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > > I don't know if this will help but sometimes I have found that a printer > > > > seems to be shared according to the

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-15 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
Gary, On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, gary artim wrote: > Don -- > > That would be great, please report back. I have clients using borken > system with ati hd 4770 cards. Have a > bug started but not much action so far. Considering swapping in Nvidia > cards so they can at least see there > work

Spot's chromium repo temporary removed

2010-02-15 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hello, Recently i got those errors on yum: http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/repodata/repomd.xml Trying other mirror. http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/repodata/primary.xml.gz: [Errno 14] HT

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-15 Thread gary artim
Don -- That would be great, please report back. I have clients using borken system with ati hd 4770 cards. Have a bug started but not much action so far. Considering swapping in Nvidia cards so they can at least see there work cleanly. -- Gary On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Don Quixote de la M

Re: F12 on one machine bollixed, but BAD

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:15:30 + (UTC) > BeartoothHOS wrote: > >> Now it boots only as far as the line about registering something >> to do with binaries and Windows. > > I believe that is just "wine" registering its binary handler. That > is usually the last thing it

Re: Propigation of bug fixes

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:47:13 -0500 > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> The question is one of policy, should a bug be marked CLOSED before the >> average >> user is FIXED? Meaning the fix is actually RELEASED. > > Depends on who bugzilla is for :-). > > If it is for developers, th

Re: random lockups when using Firefox

2010-02-15 Thread François Cami
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:02:45 +0100 Valent Turkovic wrote: > We have also seen this radeon lockup error and it seams that it is > flash reladed, but it started locking up much often after updates some > week or two ago... > > Is there a way to downgrade mesa, radeon, X and everything related to >

Re: Converting efax .efx files

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
John Poelstra wrote: > Has anyone figured out a way to convert the files created by the free > faxing services from efax.com (efx format) to another format like PDF or > tiff? > > I'm also trying to run the Windows program provided by efax under wine > on Fedora 12 (i686), but the windows insta

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:28 -0500, Tom Diehl wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Craig White wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 20:21 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two weeks before that) my machine becomes

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 14:02 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >>> As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which >>> will not >>> only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for >>> many >>> people

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:44:11PM +, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:20 -0500, fred smith wrote: > > I ran the troubleshooter and it did not turn up anything helpful. > > Did it give you the opportunity to save some diagnostic information at > the end? That would have been useful

Re: F12 on one machine bollixed, but BAD

2010-02-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:15:30 + (UTC) BeartoothHOS wrote: > Now it boots only as far as the line about registering something > to do with binaries and Windows. I believe that is just "wine" registering its binary handler. That is usually the last thing it does before bringing up the X l

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:51:16AM -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > fred smith wrote: > > > > > > It's NOT a shared printer. it is attached to the LAN with its own IP > > address. > > > > I ran the troubleshooter and it did not turn up anything helpful. > > > > every computer in the house as

F12 on one machine bollixed, but BAD

2010-02-15 Thread BeartoothHOS
My wife got an obnoxious popup on her machine, couldn't get rid of it, and called me downstairs. I got rid of it in a trice -- and then dove heavily into a trap. She complained also of the cursor giving trouble -- I had noticed that it always appeared somewhat to the right of w

Re: Sendmail help sought

2010-02-15 Thread Mail Lists
On 02/15/2010 12:11 PM, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 15:40 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Should I set MASQUERADE_AS and/or MASQUERADE_DOMAIN >> on laptop and/or desktop? It is not necessary tho its not a bad idea. Your sendmail is merely acting as a client to your ISP's sendmail - so as

Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-15 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:44 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > Can pulseaudio be made to re-read it's config file _without_ having to > log out? I wrote too soon: a simple "pulseaudio --kill" killed off the running daemon and restarted. But, I'm not 100% why it restarted on its own. Perhaps it'

Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-15 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 17:05 +, Philip Heron wrote: > Apparently it's a feature. Try this in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to disable it: > > flat-volumes = no > > Logout and in again or reboot for it to take effect. Did the trick here. Yikes - horrible feature. Can pulseaudio be made to re-read it

Re: Sendmail help sought

2010-02-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 15:40 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Should I set MASQUERADE_AS and/or MASQUERADE_DOMAIN > on laptop and/or desktop? Only if you need to, or want to, rewrite addresses to fake them as being those addresses, when the originally were not. My mail set up is quite similar to yo

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Cloaked
fred smith wrote: > > > It's NOT a shared printer. it is attached to the LAN with its own IP > address. > > I ran the troubleshooter and it did not turn up anything helpful. > > every computer in the house as well as a couple of laptops all print to it > as an IPP printer, successfully (from

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Cloaked
fred smith wrote: > > > It's NOT a shared printer. it is attached to the LAN with its own IP > address. > > I ran the troubleshooter and it did not turn up anything helpful. > > every computer in the house as well as a couple of laptops all print to it > as an IPP printer, successfully (from

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 11:20 -0500, fred smith wrote: > I ran the troubleshooter and it did not turn up anything helpful. Did it give you the opportunity to save some diagnostic information at the end? That would have been useful to see, as there might well have been an error message logged that e

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:12:54PM +, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 04:07 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > I don't know if this will help but sometimes I have found that a printer > > > seems to be shared according to the Fedora printer admin interface but > > > does not work - in t

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 04:07 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > I don't know if this will help but sometimes I have found that a printer > > seems to be shared according to the Fedora printer admin interface but > > does not work - in this situation going to localhost:631 in a browser and > > selecting

Sendmail help sought

2010-02-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm puzzled by MASQUERADE_AS and MASQUERADE_DOMAIN in sendmail.mc . I'm using KMail (under Fedora-12) on my laptop to send and receive email. I send my email through my ISP, as defined by define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.eircom.net')dnl in /etc/sendmail.mc on the laptop. I collect my email on my deskt

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-15 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 17:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 14:59 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 15:21 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 18:32 -0500, John Mel

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Cloaked
Tim Waugh wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 22:49 -0500, fred smith wrote: >> going thru the configuration on the one that fails, when I enter the IP >> address and the queue name then click the verify button it immediately >> reports "this print share is accessible", yet after completing the >>

Re: Moving LV To New Machine

2010-02-15 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:26 +, Dave Cross wrote: > On 11 February 2010 16:04, Jamie Bohr wrote: > > I've done this many times with HP-UX using vgexport and vgimport, have you > > looked at those? > > Hadn't heard of them. I'll investigate. Thanks. All they do on LVM2 is to set/clear the EXPO

Re: weird F12 printing problem

2010-02-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 22:49 -0500, fred smith wrote: > going thru the configuration on the one that fails, when I enter the IP > address and the queue name then click the verify button it immediately > reports "this print share is accessible", yet after completing the > configuration, printing a t

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-15 Thread Chris Ross
On 02/12/2010 06:39 AM, Tobias Ringström wrote: Why would anyone even want user specific display settings? Are users > expected to move monitors around between logging in? Per user settings > might be useful as a feature, but it's a very unfriendly default, or am > I missing something? In my house