Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 22:56 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > It would make sense for the cathode ray tube multisync monitors from > the days of yore. > > Obsessive geek types could set the resolution very high to fit more > source code on the screen... > > ... while those with poor eyes

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Marcel Rieux
2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström : > I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia > graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the > first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using > Nvidia's closed source driver, and I didn't even h

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Ed Greshko
Tobias Ringström wrote: > I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia > graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the > first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using > Nvidia's closed source driver, and I didn't even hav

[OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi everyone, When I tried to hardlink a directory today I ran into this, $ ln muse test ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory So I did a little searching and found its not exactly a forbidden. So far the closest to an understandable explanation/reasoning I came across was a discussio

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thursday 11 February 2010 10:08 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Suvayu Ali > wrote: >> On Thursday 11 February 2010 06:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> AFAIK, the radeon driver doesn't support 3D acceleration for HD4*** family >>> of >>> cards. and tha

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
2010/2/11 Tobias Ringström : > Why would anyone even want user specific display settings? Are users > expected to move monitors around between logging in? Per user settings > might be useful as a feature, but it's a very unfriendly default, or am > I missing something? It would make sense for the

Left rotated display one pixel too wide

2010-02-11 Thread Tobias Ringström
I'm using a dual rotated 1280x1024 monitor setup with Fedora 12, and there a funny little issue with the display size, or rather applications idea of display size, because both the desktop background and the GNOME Panel protrude one pixel into the right display. It's not really a big problem bu

Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Tobias Ringström
I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using Nvidia's closed source driver, and I didn't even have to fiddle with xorg.conf. Aft

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thursday 11 February 2010 06:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> AFAIK, the radeon driver doesn't support 3D acceleration for HD4*** family of >> cards. and that is probably the reason why tuxracer doesn't work. However, I >> don't know why glx

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thursday 11 February 2010 06:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > AFAIK, the radeon driver doesn't support 3D acceleration for HD4*** family of > cards. and that is probably the reason why tuxracer doesn't work. However, I > don't know why glxinfo reports that direct rendering is active in this case.

Re: How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-11 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:23:34 Marcel Rieux wrote: >> As I already said, the only sound I can get at the present time is >> analog sound on my computer. I suppose my HD TV doesn't accept analog >> sound, at least not through an HDMI

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > AFAIK, the radeon driver doesn't support 3D acceleration for HD4*** family of > cards. and that is probably the reason why tuxracer doesn't work. However, I > don't know why glxinfo reports that direct rendering is active in this case. Ah,

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 12 February 2010 01:04:37 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > This is very odd: on my F11 box at home, with the Radeon card... > > > You can check for direct rendering like this: > > > > glxinfo | grep direct > > > > If it says "yes", then all should be well. :-) > > Indeed it says yes, a

Re: How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:23:34 Marcel Rieux wrote: > As I already said, the only sound I can get at the present time is > analog sound on my computer. I suppose my HD TV doesn't accept analog > sound, at least not through an HDMI cable. But, if I plug headphones > in my computer, then the vi

Re: Iptables question

2010-02-11 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:44 +1300, Clint Dilks wrote: > > > > WTF? > > > > Craig > > > > > > > Hi, Are you also using /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny ? nevermind... pebkac - ssh only available at the port I moved it to (rather than making available on multiple ports). I wasn't actually

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
This is very odd: on my F11 box at home, with the Radeon card... On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Is 3D actually turned on? You can have both hardware and drivers which support > 3D, but have xorg.conf that disables it, or something like that. You can check > for direct r

Re: Iptables question

2010-02-11 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:44 +1300, Clint Dilks wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > Perhaps this is just a thing with Linode VPS but it is Fedora 11. > > > > I would think that given my iptables rules, this shouldn't happen > > > > # ssh r...@localhost > > ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connect

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 12:53 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > I know from my own experience, that if I were in the middle of a big > coding project, and my eggs were served sunny side up at breakfast > rather than over easy, then my head would surely explode. > > I expect that the kernel.o

Re: Iptables question

2010-02-11 Thread Clint Dilks
Craig White wrote: > Perhaps this is just a thing with Linode VPS but it is Fedora 11. > > I would think that given my iptables rules, this shouldn't happen > > # ssh r...@localhost > ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused > > Yes, port 22 is not allowed for eth0 but it should b

Iptables question

2010-02-11 Thread Craig White
Perhaps this is just a thing with Linode VPS but it is Fedora 11. I would think that given my iptables rules, this shouldn't happen # ssh r...@localhost ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused Yes, port 22 is not allowed for eth0 but it should be on 'localhost' # cat /etc/hos

PySolFC-2.0.fc11?

2010-02-11 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
I see updates for PySolFC-cardsets-2.0 for F11, but no PySolFC-2.0 package? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Iptables on Client w/OpenVPN

2010-02-11 Thread Chris
Greetings, Here's my situation: I want to deny all incoming on my PC but want to allow my OVPN client to access a remove OVPN server. My PC has just has the one nic and goes to a cable modem. Nothing real fancy. Any pointers or examples would be greatly appreciated! TIA -- Regards, Chris "

How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-11 Thread Marcel Rieux
As I already said, the only sound I can get at the present time is analog sound on my computer. I suppose my HD TV doesn't accept analog sound, at least not through an HDMI cable. But, if I plug headphones in my computer, then the video card and the S/PDIF wire are not involved. Shouldn't digital

Re: Question on installing FC12-X86_64

2010-02-11 Thread Jim
On 02/11/2010 04:00 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > Don Quixote > Don Quixote, Thank you for your help -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorapro

Re: Question on installing FC12-X86_64

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jim wrote: > > Am I wrong or right that this computer will take a FC12  32 or 64bit > install. Core 2 Duos are 64-bit processors, so you can install the 64-bit Fedora. However, all the x86_64 (aka AMD64) CPUs can run in 32-bit mode. So you can install the 32-bi

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So what are the reasons for its absence from the mainline kernel then? If it > works better than the current mechanisms and is open source, why does it take > years to get it into mainline? Is there some showstopper/disadvantage/problem?

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 11 February 2010 14:21:51 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Ah that is why my work box has such a high framerate - the > closed-source nVidia driver can use undocumented features that have > not yet been reversed-engineered for

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 11 February 2010 15:10:49 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 14:02 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> Bill Davidsen wrote: > >>> As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which > >>> will not only suspend but includes resume. S

Re: fetchmail and watch command

2010-02-11 Thread Armelius Cameron
On Thursday 11 February 2010 14:36:50 matias kaukonen wrote: > What I'm trying to do is enable the watch command to run a prog named > fetchmail.run. > Is there some technique to fix this that's concise and easy to understand? Why do you want to do this ? Fetchmail can be run as daemon that will

Question on installing FC12-X86_64

2010-02-11 Thread Jim
*I have a ; Dell Studio Hybrid-118 Desktop Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz 3GB 320GB DVDRW DL WiFi* Product Features Intel Core2 Duo mobile processor T5850 with 2 processing cores, 667MHz system bus, 2MB L2 cache and 2.16GHz processor speed per core Am I wrong or right that this computer will take a FC12

Re: fetchmail and watch command

2010-02-11 Thread Chris Tyler
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 14:36 -0500, matias kaukonen wrote: > What I'm trying to do is enable the watch command to run a prog named > fetchmail.run. > The following command string does not work when run in the background > (it > works ok from the foreground): > > watch -n 30 fetchmail.run > /dev/nul

fetchmail and watch command

2010-02-11 Thread matias kaukonen
What I'm trying to do is enable the watch command to run a prog named fetchmail.run. The following command string does not work when run in the background (it works ok from the foreground): watch -n 30 fetchmail.run > /dev/null & fetchmail.run if ["`ps --User matias | grep fetchmail`" == ""]; the

Re: Thinderbird and Google Chrome

2010-02-11 Thread Hegge, Johnathan
On 02/10/2010 08:34 PM, Sawrub wrote: > Hi All, > > I have been facing an issue with Thinderbird and its sync-up Google > Chrome for a couple of days. Setting Google Chrome as the default > browser and clicking any URL in a mail under Thunderbird opens up Google > Chrome with Home page, but the URL

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread gary artim
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: >> How well is radeonhd's 3D accelleration expected to work in Fedora 11? > > The "radeonhd" driver is not really supported in Fedora (some volunteer is > packaging it as an alternative, but it's not the recomme

Re: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12

2010-02-11 Thread Paul W. Frields
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 05:29:27PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > == Remediation == > > A new update is being prepared to address this problem for Fedora 11 > and 12 users, and will be pushed to our mirrors as soon as possible. > Users who are not ru

Re: Moving LV To New Machine

2010-02-11 Thread Jamie Bohr
I've done this many times with HP-UX using vgexport and vgimport, have you looked at those? - Jamie On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Dave Cross wrote: > I'm in the process of moving data from an old machine to a new one. > Both machines are running Fedora 12. > > There's rather a lot of data on

RE: Building the kernel and kernel objects

2010-02-11 Thread Dave Higton
On 2010-02-11 09:10 I wrote: > On 10-02-10 20:03:00, Tony Nelson wrote: > > > > You might also look into > > building "out of tree" kernel modules, also in those instructions. > > If only I could understand them. To be more specific: the instructions seem to assume that, if module foo.ko is b

Re: [389-users] Multiple sync aggrements between Ad and DS?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Megginson
Theodotos Andreou wrote: > Guys I' ve seen this warning on the 8.1 Administration Guide: > > WARNING > There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server > environment and the Active Directory environment. Multiple sync > agreements to the same Active Directory domain can create

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 14:02 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >>> As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which >>> will not >>> only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for >>> many >>> people

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 17:31 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > No doubt IP6 will eventually arrive because it will become necessary, > > but the chances of a significant number of end-users "demanding" it are > > close to zero > > And w

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > How well is radeonhd's 3D accelleration expected to work in Fedora 11? The "radeonhd" driver is not really supported in Fedora (some volunteer is packaging it as an alternative, but it's not the recommended driver), you should use the default "radeon" driver, or

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 21:45 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:10 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: [...] > But it seems that there should be a "Fedora-approved" way to not deal > with ipv6 rather than all of us having "best solutions". If anyone

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
>> > As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which >> > will not >> > only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for >> > many >> > people TOI works. >> >> How true! Thanks for pointing out TuxOnIce. I have been very frustrated by the "stock

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > The idea of 2D and 3D acceleration is to take the load off the processor. So > you should not expect the performance of accelerated graphics to depend on the > CPU model. Not too much, anyway. That depends on the application. Some 3D "acc

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 14:02 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which > > will not > > only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for > > many > > people TOI works. > > How true

Re: Moving LV To New Machine

2010-02-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 11:16 +, Dave Cross wrote: > I'm in the process of moving data from an old machine to a new one. > Both machines are running Fedora 12. > > There's rather a lot of data on the old machine and I'm reaching the > conclusion that rather than transfering it over the network

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 11 February 2010 12:38:38 Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > How well is radeonhd's 3D accelleration expected to work in Fedora 11? > > My box at work and my box at home are both Core 2 Quad Xeons. The idea of 2D and 3D acceleration is to take the load off the processor. So you should

Re: ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > However while the nVideo card at work can run glxgears at a frame rate > of 5000 FPS, my Radeon can only do 300! Note that glxgears has always been considered a bad speed test. Better base your speed doubts on something else. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robe

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Bill Davidsen wrote: > As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which will > not > only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for > many > people TOI works. How true! -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list

Re: setting up the android SDK on fedora

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
Robert, On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >  i mentioned this before, but i plan on documenting how to get the > android SDK up and running on fedora, and i've started documenting the > process here: > > http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Android_on_64-bit_Fedora_12

Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
I wrote: > I have plans to use python-pgsql: [...] > If having a maintainer would prevent its removal from Fedora 13, I > could do that. However, while I know Python pretty well, I'm quite > the newbie with SQL. and Till Maas wrote: > Yes, adopting it as a maintainer would be enough to prevent it

ATI Radeon vs nVidia 3D accelleration

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
How well is radeonhd's 3D accelleration expected to work in Fedora 11? I did a "yum update" recently. My box at work and my box at home are both Core 2 Quad Xeons. My work box runs Ubuntu 8.10 and has an nVidia card - lspci says: nVidia Corporation Device 0658 (rev a1) lsmod shows that it's

Re: Disk usage error

2010-02-11 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:01 AM, William John Murray wrote: >   Any more ideas? I guess I could copy the filesystem contents to > another disk and back, I have the space for that, but it seems a little > over-the-top. And it may well come back... That would have the added benefit of completely de

Re: question about partition mounted by hal

2010-02-11 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 22:57 +0100, François Patte wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bonjour, > > For some reason (which I totally ignore...) hal mounts a partition on > /media/_1 > > I have 4 disks 2 main disks are for the system and data (raid-1 and lvm) > and 2 other

Moving LV To New Machine

2010-02-11 Thread Dave Cross
I'm in the process of moving data from an old machine to a new one. Both machines are running Fedora 12. There's rather a lot of data on the old machine and I'm reaching the conclusion that rather than transfering it over the network I'll just pull one of the disks out of the old machine, stick i

Re: DVD Deltaisos available for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 12 (both i386 and x86_64)

2010-02-11 Thread psmith
On 11 February 2010 08:14, Andre Robatino wrote: > I've made available DVD deltaisos for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 > 12 (both i386 and x86_64) at > > http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ > > i386: > Fraction of full ISO size: 14.6% > applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 20 minut

Re: DVD Deltaisos available for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 12 (both i386 and x86_64)

2010-02-11 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 03:14 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > I've made available DVD deltaisos for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 > 12 (both i386 and x86_64) at > > http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ > > i386: > Fraction of full ISO size: 14.6% > applydeltaiso's approximate running time:

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-11 Thread Andrew Parker
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I prefer changing something in /etc/sysctl.conf because it's clearly >> where this kind of configuration change belongs. Changing ifcfg-eth0 may >> or may not work at the moment -- I'm guessing it probably d

RE: Building the kernel and kernel objects

2010-02-11 Thread Dave Higton
On 10-02-10 20:03:00, Tony Nelson wrote: > > On 10-02-10 05:39:06, Dave Higton wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of > > > Dave Higton > > > Sent: 2010 February 10 09:43 > > > To

Re: tp_smapi for Thinkpads

2010-02-11 Thread Richard Hughes
On 10 February 2010 02:00, Timothy Murphy wrote: > What exactly is the status of tp_smapi for Fedora-12? > Is it available in some repository? It needs to be pushed upstream to kernel.org Richard. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

DVD Deltaisos available for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 12 (both i386 and x86_64)

2010-02-11 Thread Andre Robatino
I've made available DVD deltaisos for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100202 12 (both i386 and x86_64) at http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ i386: Fraction of full ISO size: 14.6% applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 20 minutes x86_64: Fraction of full ISO size: 15.2% applydeltaiso's appr