Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-06-01 Thread André Malo
* Arne Heizmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can tell you the reasons for using koi8-r, euc-jp etc instead of utf-8 > > for the httpd docs. The resulting documents are significant smaller. > > ru:15169 => 20713 > ru+gzip:5454 => 6160 > > ja:14063 => 16595 > ja+gzip:

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-06-01 Thread Arne Heizmann
André Malo wrote: I can tell you the reasons for using koi8-r, euc-jp etc instead of utf-8 for the httpd docs. The resulting documents are significant smaller. ru:15169 => 20713 ru+gzip:5454 => 6160 ja:14063 => 16595 ja+gzip:4833 => 5237 Hardly "significantly small

RE: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-06-01 Thread Denis Gerasimov
> > > BTW I don't believe that UTF-8 page is *significant* larger - most of > the > > characters (e.g. HTML code) are still represented with one byte. > > If you have messy HTML code, this argument happens to be true ;-) I usually don't ;-) > If you have more text and each russian character ta

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-06-01 Thread André Malo
* "Denis Gerasimov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW I don't believe that UTF-8 page is *significant* larger - most of the > characters (e.g. HTML code) are still represented with one byte. If you have messy HTML code, this argument happens to be true ;-) If you have more text and each russian ch

RE: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-06-01 Thread Denis Gerasimov
> > Veysel Harun Sahin wrote: > > > > I want to use russian charset > > Why are people still creating new websites with these obsolete character > sets? Why not just use UTF-8? It's been around for long enough... > Okay, I also think that is a good idea (especially for multi-language sites), b

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-31 Thread Veysel Harun Sahin
Thanks Denis :) .htaccess file has solved the problem. Best regards. On 5/31/05, André Malo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Arne Heizmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Veysel Harun Sahin wrote: > > > > > > I want to use russian charset > > > > Why are people still creating new websites with t

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-31 Thread André Malo
* Arne Heizmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Veysel Harun Sahin wrote: > > > > I want to use russian charset > > Why are people still creating new websites with these obsolete character > sets? Why not just use UTF-8? It's been around for long enough... I can tell you the reasons for using koi8

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-31 Thread Arne Heizmann
Veysel Harun Sahin wrote: I want to use russian charset Why are people still creating new websites with these obsolete character sets? Why not just use UTF-8? It's been around for long enough... ** This email and any files t

RE: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-30 Thread Denis Gerasimov
No problem. There are at least 4 solutions: 1. Put the line AddDefaultCharset windows-1251 To your .htaccess file (see http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset) 2. Add charset support to your scripting engine. If you use PHP you may put the folloewing line to your ph

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-30 Thread Veysel Harun Sahin
Thanks Ivan. But i am hosting my site at a web hosting company and i don't have access the configuration file. Is there another solution? On 5/30/05, Ivan Barrera A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Delete the AddDefaultCharset directive from httpd.conf > > > > Or put your charset

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-30 Thread Ivan Barrera A.
>> > > > > Delete the AddDefaultCharset directive from httpd.conf > Or put your charset in that place : AddDefaultCharset windows-1251 (sorry i forgot to put this on the other email) > >>Is there any way to override the default charset and use the ones >>which appear on the meta tags witho

Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

2005-05-30 Thread Ivan Barrera A.
> I am hosting my site at a web hosting company. I want to use russian > charset and set my meta tags like " content="text/html; charset=windows-1251" />". But they don't seem to > work. When i validate my pages through w3c markup validation service > my pages' encoding seems iso-8859-9. And I see