Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Mr Antoine, thank you very much. I think i will accomplish much better results with all this information that you share with me. I believe that kind of fundamentals information must be present in the user mode linux sourceforge site. It will be very helpfull, specially for uml newbies like me. A

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > I checked the arch directory of 2.6.15 kernel source tree. > There is an um folder there. I believe the difference is here. > > Its true for older kernel sources ? Lets say, the 2.2 kernel ?. > I will see a arch/um folder ? Not for 2.2 Only by applying patches for 2.4. Alway

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
I checked the arch directory of 2.6.15 kernel source tree. There is an um folder there. I believe the difference is here. Its true for older kernel sources ? Lets say, the 2.2 kernel ?. I will see a arch/um folder ? Is correct to say : if i get a kernel source, apply no patch at all, compile with

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > I think i get a little confused. > > The key aspect here is that the uml kernel is formed in compile time, > not by altering the source code of a brand new kernel source. > > If that is correct, where resides the difference ? > I mean, ARCH=um is not a real hardware archite

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
I think i get a little confused. The key aspect here is that the uml kernel is formed in compile time, not by altering the source code of a brand new kernel source. If that is correct, where resides the difference ? I mean, ARCH=um is not a real hardware architecture, like a i386. Which influence

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > Very enlightening. > I think i had get the concept in a wrong form. > > Two questions: > 1) what is the patch files for ? The ones we have been discussing would improve uml support. > 2) where resides the modifications that turn a originally destined > host kernel into an um

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Very enlightening. I think i had get the concept in a wrong form. Two questions: 1) what is the patch files for ? 2) where resides the modifications that turn a originally destined host kernel into an uml (guest) kernel ? The hole difference is made para ARCH=um ? Thanks 2007/2/5, Antoine Marti

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: >> > I'm sorry. I dont make myself clear. Its my fault. >> > I mean, which uml patch i must apply to a 2.6.20 kernel to turn it >> > into an uml (guest) kernel ? >> None. > > My fault again. > When i say 2.6.20 kernel i mean the 2.6.20 kernel source downloaded > from www.kerne

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
> > I'm sorry. I dont make myself clear. Its my fault. > > I mean, which uml patch i must apply to a 2.6.20 kernel to turn it > > into an uml (guest) kernel ? > None. My fault again. When i say 2.6.20 kernel i mean the 2.6.20 kernel source downloaded from www.kernel.org. A host kernel. I need to a

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > Hum. >> > For guest (uml) kernel: What patch file is more appropriated ? >> > I find no patch file matching the 2.6.20 version in Mr Blasorblade >> > directories. >> As I said, patching is not needed for the latest versions. >> The bug fixes in the previous patches (and more)

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Hum. > > For guest (uml) kernel: What patch file is more appropriated ? > > I find no patch file matching the 2.6.20 version in Mr Blasorblade > > directories. > As I said, patching is not needed for the latest versions. > The bug fixes in the previous patches (and more) have been merged. I'm sorr

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > Thus, > > for host kernel: 2.6.15 version > for guest (uml) kernel: 2.6.20 version > > I have to ask: uml is a linux (working in user mode). Why the difference ? Because there are issues with host kernels >2.6.15 (otherwise you would use them - you could try and see if it

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Thus, for host kernel: 2.6.15 version for guest (uml) kernel: 2.6.20 version I have to ask: uml is a linux (working in user mode). Why the difference ? You say.. > Skas is not required Is not required for 2.6.15 ? Why ??? I already downloaded the skas-2.6.15-v8.2.patch.bz2 (skas3-v8). For guest

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > Ok. But... >> With 2.6.19.2 there aren't any bs or tls patches to apply. >> > I remember that you suggested to me a 2.6.15 kernel version. > You say "..there are issues with x86 host kernels >= 2.6.16." > Is it only for host kernel ? Yes > For uml kernels its better use the

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Ok. But... > With 2.6.19.2 there aren't any bs or tls patches to apply. > I remember that you suggested to me a 2.6.15 kernel version. You say "..there are issues with x86 host kernels >= 2.6.16." Is it only for host kernel ? For uml kernels its better use the last version ? I downloaded and prepa

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
> bs stands for Blairsorblade's Stable branch. > tls is required to run modern distributions that use newer glibcs (with > nptl). > How can i find, based on kernel source version that i want to use, which one pick ? > > Use 2.6.19 instead, straight from kernel.org mirrors. > Much more likely to wor

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: >> bs stands for Blairsorblade's Stable branch. >> tls is required to run modern distributions that use newer glibcs (with >> nptl). >> > How can i find, based on kernel source version that i want to use, > which one pick ? With 2.6.19.2 there aren't any bs or tls patches to ap

Re: [uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Antoine Martin
Haywood Floyd wrote: > Hi Sirs. > > I am new in uml affairs and wish to clear some doubts. > I hesitated in send this message because the level of threads posted > here is far beyond the respective message subject. However I > think...well, everybody started from beginning...so: > > I am building

[uml-user] Helps and Infos

2007-02-04 Thread Haywood Floyd
Hi Sirs. I am new in uml affairs and wish to clear some doubts. I hesitated in send this message because the level of threads posted here is far beyond the respective message subject. However I think...well, everybody started from beginning...so: I am building an uml kernel from linux 2.6.15.4 so