Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Under your philosophy Struts would end up being just one ActionServlet, a config file, a RequestProcessor, one Action and one ActionForm. Then you'd be on your own to find validation, web layout, dispatch, and tag solutions Now that you come to mention it, this rather seems to be how I use it

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Durham David R Jr Contr 805 CSPTS/SCE wrote: I think what he's saying is that you'll never need to cross post. As in, there isn't a single good reason to cross post to 'user' and 'dev'. Yah, Dave, I got dat. And, I tink his reasons were gut. I have to admit that I blew it and di

RE: Struts Bloat: Framework

> >I think what he's saying is that you'll never need to cross post. As > >in, there isn't a single good reason to cross post to 'user' and 'dev'. > > > > > Yah, Dave, I got dat. And, I tink his reasons were gut. I have to > admit that I blew it and did not tink about most dev people being on >

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

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Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Rick Reumann wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote the following on 9/21/2004 12:23 PM: Were there other "recent additions" that you had in mind other than ImageButtonBean? That's exactly what I was wondering:) and goes back to my first point that Struts really hasn't changed 'that' much over the years so

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Niall Pemberton wrote: I don't agree with you calling Ted Husted's ImageButtonBean crap - maybe more elegant solutions will come along, but it still doesn't mean this isn't a perfectly good workable solution to the image button problem. http://www.husted.com/struts/tips/001.html Also I don't unders

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Durham David R Jr Contr 805 CSPTS/SCE wrote: James Mitchell wrote: Please do not cross post to both lists. Most of us on dev are also on user. If I choose to reply or ignore you on dev, I'll do the same on user. Thanks. I explained my reasons for doing it in the post\. I

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Niall Pemberton wrote the following on 9/21/2004 12:23 PM: Were there other "recent additions" that you had in mind other than ImageButtonBean? That's exactly what I was wondering:) and goes back to my first point that Struts really hasn't changed 'that' much over the years so I'm confused about

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

t; that you had in mind other than ImageButtonBean? Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Struts Bloat: Framework &g

RE: Struts Bloat: Framework

> James Mitchell wrote: > > >Please do not cross post to both lists. Most of us on dev are also on user. > >If I choose to reply or ignore you on dev, I'll do the same on user. > > > >Thanks. > > I explained my reasons for doing it in the post\. I think what he's saying is that you'll never need

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

James Mitchell wrote: In a small way I agree with you, but in a another way I do not. What do you think will happen in 2 months, or 2 weeks, when someone is searching the mail archives and sees statements like "it brings more problems than it solves"? And as they read on, there is no rebuttal. On

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

r / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Rick Reumann wrote: Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/21/2004 9:37 AM: What do you do with classes like DispatchAction and ImageButtonBean (which solve the same problem in different ways) when someone comes up with something better? You need to include some flavors of DispatchAction in

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/21/2004 9:37 AM: What do you do with classes like DispatchAction and ImageButtonBean (which solve the same problem in different ways) when someone comes up with something better? You need to include some flavors of DispatchAction in the core of Struts

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

I think the reference to Tiles was rather offhand and incidental and made solely in relation to another isssue which you are on record as not interested in, Jim. Missing the point is, of course, forgiveable. We all do that. When you do so /and/ call someone's thought "ignorant", that is unf

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Struts Bloat: Framework James Mitchell wrote: Please do not cross post to both lists. Most of us on dev are also on user. If I choose to reply or ignore you on dev, I'll do the same on us

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

chael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Struts Bloat: Framework > James Mitchell wrote: > > >Please do not cross post to both lists. Most of us on dev

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Tuncay Baskan wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:30:46 -0400, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/20/2004 7:52 PM: I have a real concern that Struts is going to continue to be bloated with what are not Struts, not part of the framework, but what are i

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

James Mitchell wrote: Please do not cross post to both lists. Most of us on dev are also on user. If I choose to reply or ignore you on dev, I'll do the same on user. Thanks. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx I explained why in t

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

ginal Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Struts Bloat: Framework I have raised an issue on struts-dev which I think impacts struts-user as well

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

ROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Struts Bloat: Framework > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:30:46 -0400, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/20/2004 7:52 PM: > > > > > I have a real concern th

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:30:46 -0400, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/20/2004 7:52 PM: > > > I have a real concern that Struts is going to continue to be bloated > > with what are not Struts, not part of the framework, but what are > > instead reall

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Struts Bloat: Framework > I have raised an issue on struts-dev which I think impacts struts-user > as well. So,

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Rick Reumann wrote: Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/20/2004 7:52 PM: I have a real concern that Struts is going to continue to be bloated with what are not Struts, not part of the framework, but what are instead really very useful uses of Struts. DispatchAction and its progeny are just

Re: Struts Bloat: Framework

Michael McGrady wrote the following on 9/20/2004 7:52 PM: I have a real concern that Struts is going to continue to be bloated with what are not Struts, not part of the framework, but what are instead really very useful uses of Struts. DispatchAction and its progeny are just one example of this.

Struts Bloat: Framework

I have raised an issue on struts-dev which I think impacts struts-user as well. So, here is a cross posting, which under these cirucmstancs makes sense, I think. Looking over Struts 1.2, I see that my ImageButtonBean, an idea discarded for improvements some time ago, made it into the Struts f