On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:47:14 +1200, Jason Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomcat 5 includes *"JSP Custom Tag Pooling* - The java objects
> instantiated for JSP Custom Tags can now be pooled and reused. This
> significantly boosts the performance of JSP pages which use custom tags."
>
This is tru
Tomcat 5 includes *"JSP Custom Tag Pooling* - The java objects
instantiated for JSP Custom Tags can now be pooled and reused. This
significantly boosts the performance of JSP pages which use custom tags."
I seem to remember reading somewhere (can't remember where, does someone
have a link) that
Craig McClanahan wrote:
(1) Scriptlets, since they are Java code, require someone at least
passably familiar with Java to change them later. If you have folks
that are primarily page authors, you are faced with a cost of teaching
them enough about Java syntax to make the code it needs to do, or
hav
--- Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Woodchuck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > sorry to bring this up on a Friday...
>
> Yah, I didn't know we could have serious discussions on Fridays any
> more :-).
Monday is just as bad i guess... nobod
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), Woodchuck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry to bring this up on a Friday...
Yah, I didn't know we could have serious discussions on Fridays any more :-).
>
> does everyone here have pure Struts/JSTL jsp pages that is absolutely
> void of scriptlets?
Ex
I have not heard of the 80/20 view. I definitely spend the majority of
my time coding: I would be more like 10/90. However, on most design
issues, the ideas in circulation are the ones I use and I don't have to
reinvent the axel. (Why people talk about reinventing the wheel is a
mystery to m
--- Michael McGrady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Woodchuck wrote:
>
> >hehe, you make it sound as if scriptlets are the ball and chain and
> >shackles that you are free from!
> >
> >no doubt that scriptlets can easily fit that description, but i
> guess
> >what i'm referring to are 'nice' script
Woodchuck wrote:
hehe, you make it sound as if scriptlets are the ball and chain and
shackles that you are free from!
no doubt that scriptlets can easily fit that description, but i guess
what i'm referring to are 'nice' scriptlets :)
little tiny scriptlets that are hands down easier than than the
hehe, you make it sound as if scriptlets are the ball and chain and
shackles that you are free from!
no doubt that scriptlets can easily fit that description, but i guess
what i'm referring to are 'nice' scriptlets :)
little tiny scriptlets that are hands down easier than than the
would-be non-sc
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodchuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:21 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
> --- Jim Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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--- "Taylor, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wherever possible we try to use only tag libs in JSP pages. When we
> feel the
> need to resort to scriptlets, it usually means that we are doing more
> than
> presentation logic in the JSP page. Or there is reusable code that
> can be
> pulled int
--- Jim Barrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodchuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:22 AM
> > To: struts
> > Subject: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
> >
> >
> > sorry to bring this up on a
Jim Barrows wrote:
Mozilla is the core behind netscape. Not sure about firefox, as that's pretty
much all new code. The original mozilla is all netscape based code, and netscape
still uses the latest mozilla as their core.
Gotcha, Jim. You might find the following of interest:
http://www.m
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
> Jim Barrows wrote:
>
> >Con
Jim Barrows wrote:
Considering that Netscape is mozilla. how so?
Mozilla Firefox (www.mozilla.com) versus Netscape 7.1
(www.netscape.com). Why do you mean by "Netscape is [M]ozilla"? I am
going to learn something new here. Yippity skippity!
Michael
Wherever possible we try to use only tag libs in JSP pages. When we feel the
need to resort to scriptlets, it usually means that we are doing more than
presentation logic in the JSP page. Or there is reusable code that can be
pulled into a custom tag lib.
The only exception to this that I have see
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:55 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
> Jim Barrows wrote:
>
> >
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:49 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
> One thing i would suggest, is that if you
Jim Barrows wrote:
Are you restarting the server, or the app? On tomcat it takes me about 30 seconds to do the same... then again that's on my own local server with nothing else running.
I concur. Bouncing the app instead of the server is so sweet. Also, a
little tip, doing this is especiall
2004 18:48
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> Subject: RE: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
>
> --- Daniel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hah forget the 'purist' approach!
> >
> > I use jstl / struts taglib
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:42 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
> > Using scriptlets, to me is like goi
--- Daniel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hah forget the 'purist' approach!
>
> I use jstl / struts taglibs whereever possible.
>
> if i had a choice between writing my on taglib or scriptlet for
> me
> scriptlet wins - much less hassel, and the code is there for you on
> the jsp,
> and
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
I have freed myself of scriptlets on all pages except my entry page. I
just have not bothered to clean up the entry page as yet. I think
getting rid of them is a good philosophical position but it is so
because the result
> Using scriptlets, to me is like going back to the bad old days of
> out.println(" -Original Message-
> From: Jim Barrows [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 August 2004 18:35
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: philosophical question/poll about
hah forget the 'purist' approach!
I use jstl / struts taglibs whereever possible.
if i had a choice between writing my on taglib or scriptlet for me
scriptlet wins - much less hassel, and the code is there for you on the jsp,
and it's only normally for very simple things.
The main times i us
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodchuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:22 AM
> To: struts
> Subject: philosophical question/poll about Struts/JSTL, scriptlets
>
>
> sorry to bring this up on a Friday...
>
> does everyone here have pure Struts/JSTL jsp pages
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