Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 7/6/05, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now there is talk of Struts in the future containing ActionCommands > which can be substituted in place of Actions, and strung together in a > chain, and presumably can perform View-Controller logic. > If you look at Shale (with its support fo

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Adam Hardy
Rick Reumann on 06/07/05 19:22, wrote: In regard to "To redisplay invalid user data it must not be overwritten by pre-loaded data, thus reset() seems as simple and easy way out..", I must be confused on what you see happening that I don't. I don't use the reset to pre-populate the form data and

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Derek Broughton
Michael Jouravlev wrote: > The only book I would follow without asking for explanation would be a > nuclear power station operator's manual. In all other cases I have > time to sit down and think things over. Strictly speaking, you shouldn't actually be operating a nuclear power station without a

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Rick Reumann
Michael Jouravlev wrote the following on 7/6/2005 12:26 PM: So, you use action forms both for input and output. This is great. Change the scope to "session", throw in some methods, and you get yourself a backing bean. This is what it should be. Well, not really. I should be able to use a POJO/

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Jeff Beal
On 7/6/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/6/05, Jeff Beal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's the last paragraph of the JavaDoc for the reset() method > > (emphasis in original): > > > > "This method is *not* the appropriate place to initialize form value > > for an "update"

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/6/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm, the description for CRUDAction does not have a link to the live demo. Here it is: http://www.superinterface.com/strutsdialog/cruditemlist.do This one uses two separate actions: one for the list and another for all crud operations. Thus,

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/6/05, Jeff Beal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the last paragraph of the JavaDoc for the reset() method > (emphasis in original): > > "This method is *not* the appropriate place to initialize form value > for an "update" type page (this should be done in a setup Action). You > mainly nee

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/6/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) The person asking I believe was a beginner to Struts. Suggesting to > have a DAO used in ActionForm is something definitely unorthodox and > since the person is new to the framework it is unlikely he'll see many > examples of this and it can g

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Jeff Beal
On 7/6/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If by some chance you are, PLEASE do not advise the newbies to do this. > > This totally defeats the pupose of what ActionForms should be used for > > and will create all kinds of maintenance headaches, never mind the fact > > that it's re

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Rick Reumann
Michael Jouravlev wrote the following on 7/6/2005 3:22 AM: Can you explain why is it so bad, besides that it is "bad design" and "defeats pupose of what ActionForms should be used for"? What ActionForms should be used for, anyway? It is just a class, which has a simple lifecycle, maintained by S

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/5/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Jouravlev wrote the following on 7/6/2005 1:11 AM: > > On 7/5/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Use the reset method only for doing things like making sure some boolean > >>fields are set to false. I highly recommend you

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-05 Thread Rick Reumann
Michael Jouravlev wrote the following on 7/6/2005 1:11 AM: On 7/5/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use the reset method only for doing things like making sure some boolean fields are set to false. I highly recommend you DO NOT use the reset for 'business type' logic. Having a few def

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/5/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use the reset method only for doing things like making sure some boolean > fields are set to false. I highly recommend you DO NOT use the reset for > 'business type' logic. Having a few default things set there is fine, > but for stuff like you a

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-05 Thread Rick Reumann
Tony Dahbura wrote the following on 7/5/2005 7:36 PM: For instance I have a form that lets user edit their profile and I want to pre-populate with their name and phone number etc...Should I do all this in the form's actionForm reset method or where? No! Do not do this in the form's reset or

Re: help with a newbie topic-prepopulating a form

2005-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/5/05, Tony Dahbura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Team: > > I am trying to pre-populate a form before letting the user enter/correct > data in it. > > The only way I have seen to do this is to actually do this prefilling > fields in the reset method of the actionform. I am not sure this is th