Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/10/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/10/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The book is quite good. Low signal to noise ratio. > > ? ;-) Sorry, it's another dyslexic.Monday. s/Low/High. I'm forever doing the same thing with least versus most siginficant dig

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cockburn includes examples of all that in his book. An author is just > not compelled to include more detail than is needed for a particular > case. Issues like granularity are a matter of taste for particular > team, not an issue proscribed by

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The book is quite good. Low signal to noise ratio. ? ;-) Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Ted Husted
Cockburn includes examples of all that in his book. An author is just not compelled to include more detail than is needed for a particular case. Issues like granularity are a matter of taste for particular team, not an issue proscribed by the format. I use a wiki to write my use cases, but that's

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/10/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In terms of requirements, my favorite "silver bullet" is > Cockburn-style Use Cases. Looking back over some of the requirements > documents I've written over the the years, this Use Case format was my > "missing link". > > * http://opensource2.at

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 10/7/05, Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > _Listen_ to the customer, > > +1 that requriements is the silver bullet. I address is w/ both mock ups > and prototypes... to demonstrate active listening. In terms of requirements, my favorite "silver bullet" is Cockburn-style Use Cases.

More OT (possible rant) Re: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-08 Thread Martin Gainty
e the *implementors of change* Have a good day all, Martin- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:33 PM Subject: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) Hi Frank, Here's the thin

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Vic Cekvenich
_Listen_ to the customer, +1 that requriements is the silver bullet. I address is w/ both mock ups and prototypes... to demonstrate active listening. .V http://roomity.com (version 1.3 is live) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Leon Rosenberg
On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Sorry couldn't help but remark that... it seems some people are > forgetting the software engineering basics.. :) > > "There is no silver bullet!" Damned, and I actually thought I found one :-) But seriously, I thin

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Rafael Nami
. > > Here's wishing you Happy Friday!, > > Cheers!, > > Dharmendra > ps: have a super day! > -Original Message- > From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:08 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Cc: user@struts

RE: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 4:10 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > And you are absolutely right that there is no justification for using > new technology just for the heck of it... (And there is a reason some > of the banks still have those mainframes lying around!.) like they say > "if it ain't broken

RE: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Dharmendra . Sharan
Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:08 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: user@struts.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class) On Fri, October 7, 2005 2:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hi Frank, &

Re: OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 2:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hi Frank, > >Here's the thing about technology, it *evolves*... and it comes as > really odd that you *belive* that people introduce new technology > solution, architecture, design changes, to just make them more > market-able!!. It's

OT: RE: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Dharmendra . Sharan
Hi Frank, Here's the thing about technology, it *evolves*... and it comes as really odd that you *belive* that people introduce new technology solution, architecture, design changes, to just make them more market-able!!. I don't subscribe to this idea, but I would like to add however that

Re: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Fri, October 7, 2005 1:27 pm, Michael Jouravlev said: > P.S. The last soldier's reply does not exist in original joke, but > many people I told it to could not get the joke without it ;-) You really need to find some different people to talk to... the type of people that wouldn't get it without

Re: Development philosophy and such (was: Base action class)

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 10/7/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we unintentionally hijacked a thread, so just in case we discuss > any further, a topic change is probably in order... Tell me about hijacking ;) On 10/7/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I'm absolutely with you,