Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Larry Meadors
Heheh, you two are about to end up on my "straight-to-the-trash-bin" filter. Quit your whining, and start writing code. :-) ...and have a great weekend. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:16:00 -0600, Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html > > Most everyone was li

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Most everyone was likely routed through this when they found the list to sign-up. Note the section entitled "keep your email short and to the point." Also "Ask Smart Questions" is good. I should have thought to mention that before. -- Eddie Bush On Fr

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
Eddie, You are not believeable when you accept 668 kilobytes of gunk without complaint over and over and complain about 10 kilobytes of code which the person asking the question found very helpful. Your objections are pure baloney. This is personal merely and that is obvious. Anyone truly int

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
I didn't notice that (G-Mail sometimes folds prior responses), but it's a good example of where we could trim messages. Footers are another one. The server is going to add the subscribe/unsubscribe information to every message - it's beyond pointless to carry this information through in repli

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
I just did a study of a thread on this list, Eddie, which is called "PlugIn and the base URL". You will recognize that thread because you posted to it without complaint and had a disagreement with me about relations between intranets and the Internet. This thread had a total of 82 posts and a siz

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
> Yaakov. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:32 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > Subject: Re: Database Connection Workflow Question > > > > Jack, > >

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
Eddie, If you want to get together with other committers and enforce your own judgment on these matters, please be my guest, Eddie. As things stand, I differ with you on how to approach this and as far as I can tell quite a few others disagree with you on this too. I am following my best judgmen

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
x27;t use JNDI to get a reference to the > DataSource. I was simply saying that you should do it only once, not every > time you need it. > > Yaakov. > > -Original Message- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:32 PM > To:

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
ie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:32 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Database Connection Workflow Question Jack, Would you *please* post URLs instead of full source? I know you have publicly-hittable space of your own ... So far as how to acqui

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
Jack, Would you *please* post URLs instead of full source? I know you have publicly-hittable space of your own ... So far as how to acquire a DataSource/Connection goes, JNDI is a fantastic tool for allowing your persistence layer acquire a DataSource instance in a *standard* fashion. Standards

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Dakota Jack
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:46:30 -0600, Scott Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am running Tomcat struts. I am beginning a new project using the struts > technologies and have a question in regards to handling connections. > > First off, just to give you some background, older proje

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
if" there. Sounded kinda rude without it. Sorry. > > -Original Message- > From: Chaikin, Yaakov Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:29 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > Subject: RE: Database Connection Workflow Question &

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
Whoops! I missed an "if" there. Sounded kinda rude without it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Chaikin, Yaakov Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:29 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
anuary 28, 2005 12:24 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Database Connection Workflow Question Ok, ok, you convinced me :-P I still want to run some time trials in my environment. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:16:27 -0500, Chaikin, Yaakov Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quote from th

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
Ok, ok, you convinced me :-P I still want to run some time trials in my environment. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:16:27 -0500, Chaikin, Yaakov Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quote from the ServiceLocator Pattern about performance and JNDI: > > Initial context creation and service object lookups, if f

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
in-line On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:13:16 -0500, Chaikin, Yaakov Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eddie, > > How long it takes to look up things through JNDI? Lng is the answer. > That's even if your JNDI is sitting on the same machine as your servlet/EJB > container. But if it's a distributed

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
-Original Message- From: Chaikin, Yaakov Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:13 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Database Connection Workflow Question Eddie, How long it takes to look up things through JNDI? Lng is the answer. T

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
to take care of this one situation where you would change the data source on the fly. That's my understanding of the issue... Yaakov. -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List; Larry Meadors Subject: Re

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:29 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Database Connection Workflow Question Yes, This is what I want to do. I am just getting underway with this new project, and am looking for a solution to handle this. I have read the full O'Reilly struts book,

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Eddie Bush
I wouldn't even store the DataSource. You may wish to have multiple DataSource instances you wish to use in a given project. I have Business Objects that extends a "BaseBO" object, which are generated by a factory (the factory reads an XML file using digester). My DAOs are generated similarly.

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
ks, Yaakov. -Original Message- From: Larry Meadors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:24 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Database Connection Workflow Question On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:41 -0500, Chaikin, Yaakov Y. wrote: > 1) I hope the code you show

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Scott Purcell
icles for me to review, or comment, please let me know, Sincerely Scott -Original Message- From: Chaikin, Yaakov Y. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:10 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Database Connection Workflow Question Scott,

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Larry Meadors
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:09:41 -0500, Chaikin, Yaakov Y. wrote: > 1) I hope the code you showed is sitting inside a DAO, not your Action. Heheh, me too. ;-) > 2) It looks much messier because you are not using something like a > ServiceLocator Pattern. Look up and cache the reference to your DataSo

RE: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Chaikin, Yaakov Y.
Scott, 1) I hope the code you showed is sitting inside a DAO, not your Action. 2) It looks much messier because you are not using something like a ServiceLocator Pattern. Look up and cache the reference to your DataSource there. It's cleaner and way faster than doing it every time in your DAO. 3)

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Larry Meadors
Rick has some GREAT struts stuff here: http://reumann.net/struts/ibatisLesson1.do He talks about using a DAO pattern, and getting that connection type of stuff (as well as other JDBC specific stuff) out of your application code. Larry On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:46:30 -0600, Scott Purcell <[EMAIL P

Re: Database Connection Workflow Question

2005-01-28 Thread Alex Kravets
I think you can still use your DAO classes in Struts. In my application, which was not written in Struts I use DAOs written as Singleton, Factory DP everywhere, I guess in Struts you can call your DAOs from Action Class to access database. Scott Purcell wrote: Hello, I am running Tomcat struts.