RE: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-13 Thread Dan Cancro
Thanks, David. Great doable ideas! I have a couple questions... Where is the best place to put server side validation? I think that's a substep of either "Author Business Services" or "Author Actions". Same question about client-side validation. Do you think Bugzilla is more of a QA- or a Te

RE: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread David G. Friedman
rs Mailing List Subject: Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again) Dan, I don't really understand the document you posted. Maybe it would be better served in wiki format or you could post in pdf or something like that. As it is, I was pretty confused when I first saw it. Dan Canc

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Peng Tuck
Dan, I don't really understand the document you posted. Maybe it would be better served in wiki format or you could post in pdf or something like that. As it is, I was pretty confused when I first saw it. Dan Cancro wrote: Hi Group, This is plea #2 for help with a soup-to-nuts How-To doc I'm

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
All set! It works in Mozilla now. Here's the link again: http://www.geocities.com/topdowndan/docs/webapp/ --- Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I think it just wrapped on you. Put your > anti-Microsoft tiger back > in its cage and step away from the door ;) > > It seemed to work O

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
Any input or corrections would be great. I haven't done one of these before, so I'm afraid I don't really know what I don't know. I just sort of browsed the web and my memory of past projects for partial instructions and then dumped them in the doc as best I could. There are some questions in th

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
temper temper Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'll see if there's an open source evangelistically kosher way to get it working on another browser. --- James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > umm...I'm confused. I clicked that link and the > page doesn't mean squat to > me. The top

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Hardy
Dan, just realised how unhelpful that msg was. What are you actually asking for? Random suggestions or something specific? Adam On 11/12/2004 07:26 PM Adam Hardy wrote: No, I think it just wrapped on you. Put your anti-Microsoft tiger back in its cage and step away from the door ;) It seemed to

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Hardy
No, I think it just wrapped on you. Put your anti-Microsoft tiger back in its cage and step away from the door ;) It seemed to work OK in Mozilla for me. The blanks are iframes rather than text areas. Not all of the nodes have them. Looks like Dan is still writing his expert system on how to se

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread James Mitchell
umm...I'm confused. I clicked that link and the page doesn't mean squat to me. The top frame is only half rendered (being cut off by the bottom frame). The tree items only expand to empty (and rather oversized) text areas. Am I supposed to view this page with IE? If so, then forget about gett

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Dan Cancro
Yes, I am only looking for detail at this high level. I think that a one or two page document with this course level of detail over the entire app development process would be pretty helpful for people like me who are getting started. I think there is plenty of documentation already to explain ea

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Adam Hardy
I see what you mean now about the different steps for the different architectures. You are giving yourself a huge scope to deal with! It strikes me that your document would constantly become out-of-date with each new software release. Or are you going to leave it at the depth of detail which yo

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Dan Cancro
This is Blueglue: http://www.openlogic.com/index.php With blueglue, you download this application and then check the boxes for, say, MySQL, Hibernate, JBoss, and Middlegen, and blueglue installs everything on your computer. I am just getting started. I haven't developed any apps yet, so picking

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Adam Hardy
What's blueglue? It sounds like maven (which is open-source) You don't actually list anywhere what software you are using. It looks like you are using Hibernate and EJB together. Is that logical? Why not use CMP, or ditch EJB? On 10/27/2004 05:52 PM Dan wrote: I've never developed an open source

RE: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-27 Thread Dan Cancro
LOL. Thanks, David. I think if the whole open source community was one company, we wouldn't even need a book. We'd probably just have a wizard. --- "David G. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > I skimmed over your steps outline and it looks like > you should turn that > into a bo

RE: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-27 Thread David G. Friedman
Dan, I skimmed over your steps outline and it looks like you should turn that into a book for beginning contractors or webapp developers. It might sell a few books too. :) Regards, David -Original Message- From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:52 PM To