OK, thanks. I'll look at that.
- Brendan
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From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)"
>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> If you are using the shale test framework with simple junit tests, the
> test framework doesn't digest your faces-confg.xml anyway. You have to
> do that kind of setup in the test cases.
>
> The isolated code you want to test in the mana
If you are using the shale test framework with simple junit tests, the
test framework doesn't digest your faces-confg.xml anyway. You have to
do that kind of setup in the test cases.
The isolated code you want to test in the managed beans would just use a
indirect reference (the managed bean name
age-
> From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:37 PM
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>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)"
> >
> > Are you sayin
Sorry, ignore that last paragraph. ;-)
- Brendan
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From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)
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Well, the thing that's nice about my approach is that al
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> Are you saying I should register my delegates as JSF managed beans?
>
Sure, why not? The faces IoC container is not spri
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>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)"
> >
> > In case anyone else was in the same boat I was in trying to run the
> Shale Test
> > Framework "in isolation&quo
Are you saying I should register my delegates as JSF managed beans?
- Brendan
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:49 PM
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>From: &quo
SF test framework
in your test cases (design with more spring :-).
Gary
> - Brendan
>
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Fra: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sounds good. So how do you isolate your Web Layer from the EJB layer during
testing and then re-e
nal testing (browser-based) tools to test maintenance
changes.
- Brendan
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From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)
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Cool. Actually, all joking aside, I'
the Test Framework
I'm just telling you what I find easier.
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&g
I'm just telling you what I find easier.
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CONNER, BRENDAN wrote:
> I understand the concept; I'm just worried about the amount
> of effort required to mock up all those calls, relative to
> the complexity of my Action methods themselves. One nice
> thing about
CONNER, BRENDAN wrote:
> I understand the concept; I'm just worried about the amount
> of effort required to mock up all those calls, relative to
> the complexity of my Action methods themselves. One nice
> thing about using JSF is that our Action methods themselves
> are almost ridiculously s
Cool. Actually, all joking aside, I'm anxious to learn about it.
- Brendan
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From: Hermod Opstvedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:35 PM
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Hi
If you have not looked at Spring before: Boy do you have something in store
for you.
Hermod
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Sigh
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Hi
Easy: Spring. It's all done with configuration. In a no "EJB container
available" setting, you configure spring to return a different service than
when you have EJB container available.
Hermod
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Sounds good. So how do you isolate your Web Layer from the EJB layer during
testing and then re-establish the linkage during deployment in your
environment?
- Brendan
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(SBCSI)
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Sounds good. So how do you isolate your Web Layer from the EJB layer during
testing and then re-establish the linkage during deployment in your environment?
- Brendan
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Hi
I totally agree with Craig. There is a huge difference between Unit testing
and Integration testing. We do both, using different tooling for the
different test types.
Hermod
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On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > OK, I'll look at
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On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PRO
CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) asked:
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>
> OK, so maybe I have to learn more about the injection
> process. For all this talk about simplifying the process
On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > OK, I'll look at that. But, out of curiosity, how is the Shale Test
> > Framework being used by people now? Is it being used mostly for
> > non-3-tier applications? What is the ex
;
> - Brendan
>
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> From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:31 AM
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ubject: RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework
CONNER, BRENDAN replied:
> So are you agreeing that there is currently no framework that
> can currently do round-trip testing as I've described it? Or
> am I missing something?
No, but I'm saying that you'll likely find it me
s, because then there would be no need for JSF support.)
Thanks,
- Brendan
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>From: "CONN
eate using the real thing.
- George
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>
> What Cactus does i
You might look at junitee (www.junitee.org). It allows you two run junit test
cases under the web container where you would have the JNDI stuff.
> - Brendan
>
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o: user@struts.apache.org
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Brendan, I think the upshot of all this is that you *may* be able to use
the Shale test framework to mock out the JSF side of things, but run the
resulting tests using Cactus so you still get the container
functionality yo
r code from the Action method once those
delegates have been filled in and are no longer stubs.
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What Cactus
test our code from the Action method once those
delegates have been filled in and are no longer stubs.
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>
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> I think Cactus works OK with JNDI lookups, etc., since it's
> just a Servlet. However, I think it falls apart when trying
> to reference stuff like Fac
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> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > OK, sorry for being a little dense about this, but, if, f
hould be possible to use Cactus for that kind of testing, but I've never
looked how Cactus deals with JNDI lookups or session beans.
- Brendan
Craig
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>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> OK, sorry for being a little dense about this, but, if, for example,
my
> application code is referencing a FacesContext o
On 2/14/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > OK. We're working with IBM's RSA IDE (which uses Eclipse underneath).
> > I'm just trying to fit into my mind how to organize the two root source
> > directories in that environment
>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> OK, sorry for being a little dense about this, but, if, for example, my
> application code is referencing a FacesContext object, and my Test code
> initializes MockFacesContext, what is the mechanism that makes my
> application use the va
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>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem that the Shale Test Framework
is
> trying to solve. My JSF actions are doi
>From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem that the Shale Test Framework is
> trying to solve. My JSF actions are doing JNDI lookups and calling
> Session Beans, based upon the values in JSF managed beans and maybe some
> JSFContext info. If
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Craig
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>
> On 2/10/06, Craig McClanahan wrote:
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> - Brendan
>
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> >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBC
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>
> OK, I'm going through the section in the PDF docu
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> On 2/10/06, Craig McClanahan wrote:
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> > The only classes in shale-test.jar that depen
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On 2/10/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The only classes in shale-test.jar that depend on the rest of Shale is
the
&g
On 2/10/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The only classes in shale-test.jar that depend on the rest of Shale is the
> convenience base classes in the org.apache.shale.test.base package. The
> mock object classes have no dependencies on Shale, so you're welcome to use
> them to
On 2/10/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Wendy. So where do I look for the weekly Maven repositories?
> The Shale PDF document mentions these, but it only gives a url for the
> nightly builds, not for a Maven repository.
>
> I'm new to Maven as well (unfortunately)
tting the nightly builds for now.
However, I might as well start getting comfortable with Maven, too,
while I'm at it. ;-)
- Brendan
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:58 PM
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On 2/10/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I noticed links to nightly downloads on the Shale project's web
> site, but I was not able to locate any "release" downloads. Are there
> "release" downloads available? If so, are they relatively up-to-date,
> or would I be b
On 2/10/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm new to Shale, but I've been using JSF (and the MyFaces
> implementation) for about 18 months now. I'm interested in utilizing
> the Test Framework that Shale offers, but I'm unsure about how much that
> framework depends upon t
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