Re: [OT] Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-27 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Hi, I'm new to this list so I don't know how is who... but it was clear for me from the beginning that Martin answers had no relation with my original e-mail (that's why I didn't answer his first e-mail and only answered to the second to be polite)... If you guys think someone is abusing the list b

Re: [OT] Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Bhaarat Sharma
this has been a long time coming. Martin: I also appreciate your efforts as you try to answer questions but as dave said..most of the time they make the poster more confused. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dave Newton wrote: > Martin Gainty wrote: > >> mg>at least your attack took more than 5

[OT] Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Dave Newton
Martin Gainty wrote: mg>at least your attack took more than 5 seconds of thought mg>whos next? Me. We're not "attacking" you at random--we just don't think you make a lot of sense a lot of the time and often add more confusion than value. When you obfuscate issues under what's often ess

RE: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Gainty
> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:31:11 +0200 > Subject: Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2 > From: reier...@gmail.com > To: user@struts.apache.org > > :-) > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > > > On Wed,

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Obinna
Thanks for the clarifications Wes. That's what I was trying to say. :) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ernesto Reinaldo > Barreiro wrote: > > > > Not quite following you here. In Wicket you normally attach events to > > components in a p

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
:-) On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Ernesto Reinaldo > Barreiro wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > Sorry but I do not understand your questions... > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Martin Gainty > wrote: > > > >> > >> does the builtin com

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro wrote: > Hi Martin, > Sorry but I do not understand your questions... > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > >> >> does the builtin communication bypass XMLHttpRequest? >> if so which events do you support? >> > > What

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
> > this is good work..do you support JSON format? > Martin Gainty > JSON format? Where? Do you mean the CRUD component? Or something else? Best, Ernesto > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:42:54 +0200 > > Subject: Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro wrote: > > Not quite following you here. In Wicket you normally attach events to > components in a programmatic way at the Java side and then when components > HTML code is generated the framework itself generates the (e.g. AJAX) > callback

RE: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Gainty
bilité pour le contenu fourni. > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:42:54 +0200 > Subject: Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2 > From: reier...@gmail.com > To: user@struts.apache.org > > Hi Erik, > > Comments inlined. > > > >

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Hi Erik, Comments inlined. > There's usually a trade-off between simplicity and out-of-the-box > functionality and flexibility (how open to extensibility and > customization). > Where you opt for on this spectrum should depend a lot on the > sophistication > of your development team. If your tea

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Obinna
2009/8/26 Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro > Hi Erick, > Thanks for your answer! > > In evaluating frameworks we are trying to see how they do satisfy the > following conditions: > > -Easy of use and developers productivity. I know this sounds very vague but > I essentially mean things like. What compon

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Hi Erick, Thanks for your answer! In evaluating frameworks we are trying to see how they do satisfy the following conditions: -Easy of use and developers productivity. I know this sounds very vague but I essentially mean things like. What components (taglibs in case of struts) do I get for free?

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-26 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Hi Erick, Thanks for your answer! In evaluating frameworks we are trying to see how they do satisfy the following conditions: -Easy of use and developers productivity. I know this sounds very vague but I essentially mean things like. What components (taglibs in case of struts) do I get for free?

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Dave Newton
Martin Gainty wrote: their library is usually based on Javascript..the real challenge is manipulating the Velocity or Freemarker template libraries and then incorporating in the necessary attributes to the tld(s)..then incorporating this to the build..preferrably as a maven plugin..none of this i

RE: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Gainty
2009 13:36:59 +0200 > Subject: Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2 > From: reier...@gmail.com > To: user@struts.apache.org > > Hi Obinna, > Thanks for your answer... > > I have seen and tried both the dojo plugin and the struts2-jquery-plugin in >

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Obinna
Ernesto, I understand what you mean. You're right to point to the issue of maintainability as a main concern. One of the big issues with trying to support an external AJAX framework really is maintainability. That was a big problem with the dojo plugin where the dojo framework changed dramatically

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Mileidys Gonzalez Prieto
Hi, I can say that the struts2-jquery plugin is really amazing!!! Maybe we can give a hand to Obinna in the developer and documentation for the project. Milo Obinna wrote: > I have used struts 2 for a number of RIAs but unfortunately none of them are > public. In the past I used to use it with th

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
Hi Obinna, Thanks for your answer... I have seen and tried both the dojo plugin and the struts2-jquery-plugin in an small showcase application I have built just to summarize (for internal use) what is available for struts2 But to be sincere I'm not very impressed about what they offer in terms

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread Obinna
I have used struts 2 for a number of RIAs but unfortunately none of them are public. In the past I used to use it with the dojo plugin, and samples for using that framework are available with the struts showcase, however support for that has been stopped and struts 2 is moving toward implementing a

Re: example of rich internet applications (RIAs) using struts 2

2009-08-25 Thread reiern70
Sorry for multiple post of the same question but I thought my message didn't make it to the list as I get the following notification --- Hi. This is the deliver program at bjtu.edu.cn. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've give