Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-09 Thread netsql
otoh, back to the future... pointcast.com! My current version 1.5x is pull. Version 2.0 that is in alpha and not released will be push (and allow for offline reading, like on a laptop on plane, plus a few more neat features). .V souravm wrote: Raghu/Frank, You are very right in saying that

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-08 Thread slam dunk
Try xmlsocket in Flash. Put javascript calls in xmlsocket.onData(){} On 1/5/06, souravm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

RE: Web Push Technology

2006-01-05 Thread souravm
06 10:01 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Web Push Technology Raghu Kanchustambham wrote: > One thing I am just wondering right now is, whether I need to really run > this "alerting push" communication over HTTP ? Why not I have the applet > open a connection

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Raghu Kanchustambham wrote: One thing I am just wondering right now is, whether I need to really run this "alerting push" communication over HTTP ? Why not I have the applet open a connection to another "plain-socket-listening-server" (not the same HTTP server) which keeps the connection 'alive'

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Raghu Kanchustambham
Agreed Frank that Applets pose these "security" restrictions. I forgot to mention that part of the story .. may be got lost in my previous long rant! :) Let me take a different route now and see what you think about it. The problems that we have been discussing all this while is because HTTP is i

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Dave Newton
Rick Reumann wrote: Frank W. Zammetti wrote the following on 1/4/2006 2:41 PM: There's nothing more fun than a couple of architects arguing! :) You forgot to add that comment to Friday's, You might be a geek if... post. I'm still trying to parse the "might" bit... That implies a level of

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Rick Reumann
Frank W. Zammetti wrote the following on 1/4/2006 2:41 PM: There's nothing more fun than a couple of architects arguing! :) You forgot to add that comment to Friday's, You might be a geek if... post. -- Rick http://www.tech.reumann.net

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, January 4, 2006 1:03 pm, Raghu Kanchustambham said: > I would disagree on your conclusion that pull is *the* way to achieve your > 'push alert' on http. No, I didn't say *the* way, I said it probably was the best option, all things considered :) > Some points on which you will base your d

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-04 Thread Raghu Kanchustambham
should be the solution having the best trade off in terms of > scalability, and interoperability. > > Regards, > Sourav > > -Original Message- > From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:53 AM > To: Struts Users Mailin

RE: Web Push Technology

2006-01-03 Thread souravm
ourav -Original Message- From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:53 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Web Push Technology Indeed, Rick is correct, this is not really technically feasible given the basic nature of

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-03 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Indeed, Rick is correct, this is not really technically feasible given the basic nature of HTTP. Any solution would have to be of pull nature, unless you get into applets of ActiveX or such things. You essentially need to have a server running on the client... then the "real" server could, theore

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 1/3/06, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. What are the relevant technologies avaialble in Java/J2EE for this - > > a) How AJAX an be used ? > > I'd use the buzz word Ajax for that. I only know the very basics of it How an async HTTP request can be a push technology? --

Re: Web Push Technology

2006-01-03 Thread Rick Reumann
souravm wrote the following on 1/2/2006 11:34 PM: The push will need to be initiated by an alert server or streaming engine, which will keep pushing data (alerts) to the users's browsers. I don't believe that is possible unless you create some kind of Applet, but then you aren't really using