Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:36:37 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig, > > > > With Creator (which has nice support for consuming web > > services), I used Google's published API for doing searches > > via a SOAP request to build a little demo program -- with the > > text fie

RE: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Craig, > With Creator (which has nice support for consuming web > services), I used Google's published API for doing searches > via a SOAP request to build a little demo program -- with the > text field for the query string, and the results table, on > the same page. I only wanted to display

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:18:53 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fair enough. By the way, I'm not bagging on the UI components in any > way. The one that looks the most intriguing to me is the "rendered" > attribute that comes with the various widgets. That attribute combined > w

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Sean Schofield
Craig McClanahan wrote: The *standard* UI components weren't meant to be compelling -- they were meant to give people an opportunity to actually explore the APIs without having anything except a JSF implementation. Fair enough. By the way, I'm not bagging on the UI components in any way. The

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:02:07 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are the UI widgets of JSF really that compelling? The *standard* UI components weren't meant to be compelling -- they were meant to give people an opportunity to actually explore the APIs without having anything ex

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been doing some reading recently on JSF and I have a few comments and > questions. > > At first I thought JSF would focus mostly on the "V" in MVC. But after doing some > reading on this, it seems like JSF re

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Sean Schofield
Hubert Rabago wrote: Yes. Some even believe the navigation rules of JSF is easier to understand than those of Struts. I haven't finished exploring all of the nav features of JSF, but I tend to agree with this comment. Navigation seems to me to be one of the more awkward aspects of Struts. I

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Mark Lowe
On 12 Oct 2004, at 17:57, Hubert Rabago wrote: Lots of people more qualified than me to respond to your questions, but I know a little bit about the theory and can give you a preview of what they'll likely say. On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have bee

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Hubert Rabago
Geez, my writing can be very confusing. > Whose focus? Struts users miss out on lots of developments outside > Struts, but they miss out on Struts progress as well. I meant, those not using Struts would miss out on Struts developments as well. Maybe it's time for me to get some lunch. Hubert

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Hubert Rabago
Lots of people more qualified than me to respond to your questions, but I know a little bit about the theory and can give you a preview of what they'll likely say. On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been doing some reading recently on JSF and I