Re: [OT] Re: A new paradigm of Struts development

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Hardy
At risk of sounding like I'm brown-nosing, I think it is not just dedication - it is 50% elegant ideas and quality code. On 11/12/2004 08:38 AM Erik Weber wrote: I would like to offer one more opinion on the paradigm discussion, and then I'll shut up. I think it's important for younger developer

Re: [OT] Re: A new paradigm of Struts development

2004-11-12 Thread Erik Weber
I would like to offer one more opinion on the paradigm discussion, and then I'll shut up. I think it's important for younger developers to realize this. Every paradigm will have its strengths and weaknesses, and some can even be judged to be "better overall" than competing paradigms by a majori

Re: [OT] Re: A new paradigm of Struts development

2004-11-11 Thread Erik Weber
First, thanks Vic for your feedback. Second, right after I posted, I felt like I might have come across as insulting to people on this list with my web apps/browsers remark, especially considering that this IS a Struts list. I apologize if I offended anyone. I don't mean to undermine people's ha

Re: [OT] Re: A new paradigm of Struts development

2004-11-11 Thread Vic
Erik Weber wrote: I have invested a lot in writing custom UI classes, custom paint methods, custom UI defaults properties, etc., to get my Swing components looking the way I want (I'm sorry but, changing the background colors, and other easily-scriptable stuff, doesn't cure Swing's out-of-the-bo

RE: [OT] Re: A new paradigm of Struts development

2004-11-11 Thread Daniel Perry
To me JDNC seems like a halfway house between webapps and rich client apps. I personally like the way that webapps work (everything is written for the server and executed on the server then merely displayed at the client), but I hate the interface (html - and browser). The web interface lacks con