Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
portal specific. It is up to the developer with AquaLogic. Regards, Randy Burgess Sr. Web Applications Developer Nuvox Communications From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:45:34 -0500 To: Struts Users Mailing L

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Randy Burgess
17:30:38 +0100 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames > > The most applications are hosted in the intra net. We have another subnet > with some Websphere servers secured by firewalls but they can all be > accessed within out domain

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Randy Burgess
L PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:44:17 +0100 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames > > Hmm, in our case the single applications should not know it they are running > in a portal or somewhe

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Marc Eckart
> > > 2008/2/13, Randy Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I would imagine that it is portal specific. It is up to the developer > with > >> AquaLogic. > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Randy Burgess > >> Sr. Web Applications De

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:45:34 -0500 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames So that seems to say that it's left to the portlet developers to ensure there are no naming conflicts, am I understanding that right? Frank

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Marc Eckart
Sr. Web Applications Developer > Nuvox Communications > > > > > From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:45:34 -0500 > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > >

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Randy Burgess
2008 09:45:34 -0500 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames > > So that seems to say that it's left to the portlet developers to ensure > there are no naming conflicts, am I understanding that right? > > Frank > > Randy Burge

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
rtlet. Regards, Randy Burgess Sr. Web Applications Developer Nuvox Communications From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:36:08 -0500 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames A

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-13 Thread Randy Burgess
uts Users Mailing List > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:36:08 -0500 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: Alternative to html frames > > Antonio Petrelli wrote: >> Frank, you might love this article :-) >> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/I-am-right-and-the-entire-In

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I think it all comes down to whether the "different application/jsp"'s are in the same domain. If they are, then iFrames might do the trick nicely. Note that even if they are different subdomains, you can still do cross-frame scripting, it just requires some playing around with the document.d

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Brantley Hobbs
Ya know, this triggers a question of my own: I have apps that use *tons* of iframes, and there *are* some drawbacks: 1. Without some sort of "onload()" built-in to every page, there's no way of knowing if the frame has loaded when you update its .src attribute. With an AJAX filled div, you'd

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Marc Eckart
Hi Frank, thank you and all others for your answers ;-) We have a similar aproach like you described. We have an application which acts as a portal. This application has two frames - one top frame for the navigation and another frame for hosting the embbeded (independet) application. One of this

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Antonio Petrelli wrote: Frank, you might love this article :-) http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/I-am-right-and-the-entire-Industry-is-wrong.aspx Hehe :) It's a good example of the typical "taking an idea too far". The world seems to be divided into the people that say frames are evil and shou

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/2/11, Laurie Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Antonio Petrelli wrote: > > 2008/2/11, Marc Eckart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> But we are not so happy with this frame aproaches in general. But we > don't > >> know how to integrate the different (indepentend) applications > transparent > >> to the u

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-12 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/2/11, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Marc, what aren't you happy about with the frame-based design? I've > done a lot of that over the years and, once you learn to avoid the > pitfalls, it's worked out great. I admit that in recent years I've > leaned towards iFrames when frames

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
's aren't equivalent to frames in most cases... the most important difference is that of namespacing... when you use frames, there's no worry of Javascript or DOM element name collisions, which can occur with simple 's. Marc, what aren't you happy about with the frame-based design? I've done

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-11 Thread Laurie Harper
Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2008/2/11, Marc Eckart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: But we are not so happy with this frame aproaches in general. But we don't know how to integrate the different (indepentend) applications transparent to the users without frames. A portlet container? Regular divs loaded via

Re: OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-11 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2008/2/11, Marc Eckart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > But we are not so happy with this frame aproaches in general. But we don't > know how to integrate the different (indepentend) applications transparent > to the users without frames. A portlet container? Antonio --

OT: Alternative to html frames

2008-02-11 Thread Marc Eckart
Hi, I have an offtopic question :-) We have an intranet portal with a menu where you can start different applications. The applications run on different containers (e.g. tomcat, websphere) on different servers. The portal has a html frameset with two frames. The topframe is for the portal menu an