Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:36:37 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig, > > > > With Creator (which has nice support for consuming web > > services), I used Google's published API for doing searches > > via a SOAP request to build a little demo program -- with the > > text fie

RE: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Craig, > With Creator (which has nice support for consuming web > services), I used Google's published API for doing searches > via a SOAP request to build a little demo program -- with the > text field for the query string, and the results table, on > the same page. I only wanted to display

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:18:53 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fair enough. By the way, I'm not bagging on the UI components in any > way. The one that looks the most intriguing to me is the "rendered" > attribute that comes with the various widgets. That attribute combined > w

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-13 Thread Sean Schofield
Craig McClanahan wrote: The *standard* UI components weren't meant to be compelling -- they were meant to give people an opportunity to actually explore the APIs without having anything except a JSF implementation. Fair enough. By the way, I'm not bagging on the UI components in any way. The

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:02:07 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are the UI widgets of JSF really that compelling? The *standard* UI components weren't meant to be compelling -- they were meant to give people an opportunity to actually explore the APIs without having anything ex

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been doing some reading recently on JSF and I have a few comments and > questions. > > At first I thought JSF would focus mostly on the "V" in MVC. But after doing some > reading on this, it seems like JSF re

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Sean Schofield
Hubert Rabago wrote: Yes. Some even believe the navigation rules of JSF is easier to understand than those of Struts. I haven't finished exploring all of the nav features of JSF, but I tend to agree with this comment. Navigation seems to me to be one of the more awkward aspects of Struts. I

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Mark Lowe
On 12 Oct 2004, at 17:57, Hubert Rabago wrote: Lots of people more qualified than me to respond to your questions, but I know a little bit about the theory and can give you a preview of what they'll likely say. On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have bee

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Hubert Rabago
Geez, my writing can be very confusing. > Whose focus? Struts users miss out on lots of developments outside > Struts, but they miss out on Struts progress as well. I meant, those not using Struts would miss out on Struts developments as well. Maybe it's time for me to get some lunch. Hubert

Re: JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Hubert Rabago
Lots of people more qualified than me to respond to your questions, but I know a little bit about the theory and can give you a preview of what they'll likely say. On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:29:56 -0400, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been doing some reading recently on JSF and I

JSF and Struts Integration

2004-10-12 Thread Sean Schofield
I have been doing some reading recently on JSF and I have a few comments and questions. At first I thought JSF would focus mostly on the "V" in MVC. But after doing some reading on this, it seems like JSF really provides the "M" and "C" as well. Is this accurate? It seems possible to combine