RE: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-13 Thread Dan Cancro
Thanks, David. Great doable ideas! I have a couple questions... Where is the best place to put server side validation? I think that's a substep of either "Author Business Services" or "Author Actions". Same question about client-side validation. Do you think Bugzilla is more of a QA- or a Te

RE: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread David G. Friedman
rs Mailing List Subject: Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again) Dan, I don't really understand the document you posted. Maybe it would be better served in wiki format or you could post in pdf or something like that. As it is, I was pretty confused when I first saw it. Dan Canc

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Peng Tuck
Dan, I don't really understand the document you posted. Maybe it would be better served in wiki format or you could post in pdf or something like that. As it is, I was pretty confused when I first saw it. Dan Cancro wrote: Hi Group, This is plea #2 for help with a soup-to-nuts How-To doc I'm

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
Inc. > > 678.910.8017 > > AIM: jmitchtx > > > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Cancro" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:44 PM > > Subject: Application Developme

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
so, > then forget about > >> getting any help from me. I never run it. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> James Mitchell > >> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist > >> EdgeTech, Inc. > >> 678.910.8017 > >> AIM: jmitcht

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
any help from me. I never run it. > > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > AIM: jmitchtx > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Cancro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[E

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Hardy
ver run it. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Dan Cancro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: Application Development

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Hardy
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again) Hi Group, This is plea #2 for help with a soup-to-nuts How-To doc I'm making for building apps, so that I can finally build one. The last doc I d

Re: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread James Mitchell
04 12:44 PM Subject: Application Development Procedure Doc (Again) Hi Group, This is plea #2 for help with a soup-to-nuts How-To doc I'm making for building apps, so that I can finally build one. The last doc I did was pretty boring. It fetched one joke, one criticism and zero offers for

Application Development Procedure Doc (Again)

2004-11-12 Thread Dan Cancro
Hi Group, This is plea #2 for help with a soup-to-nuts How-To doc I'm making for building apps, so that I can finally build one. The last doc I did was pretty boring. It fetched one joke, one criticism and zero offers for assistance. This new one is much more fun. It has expanding trees, ifram

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Dan Cancro
Yes, I am only looking for detail at this high level. I think that a one or two page document with this course level of detail over the entire app development process would be pretty helpful for people like me who are getting started. I think there is plenty of documentation already to explain ea

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Adam Hardy
I see what you mean now about the different steps for the different architectures. You are giving yourself a huge scope to deal with! It strikes me that your document would constantly become out-of-date with each new software release. Or are you going to leave it at the depth of detail which yo

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Dan Cancro
This is Blueglue: http://www.openlogic.com/index.php With blueglue, you download this application and then check the boxes for, say, MySQL, Hibernate, JBoss, and Middlegen, and blueglue installs everything on your computer. I am just getting started. I haven't developed any apps yet, so picking

Re: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-30 Thread Adam Hardy
What's blueglue? It sounds like maven (which is open-source) You don't actually list anywhere what software you are using. It looks like you are using Hibernate and EJB together. Is that logical? Why not use CMP, or ditch EJB? On 10/27/2004 05:52 PM Dan wrote: I've never developed an open source

RE: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-27 Thread Dan Cancro
LOL. Thanks, David. I think if the whole open source community was one company, we wouldn't even need a book. We'd probably just have a wizard. --- "David G. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > I skimmed over your steps outline and it looks like > you should turn that > into a bo

RE: Application Development Procedure

2004-10-27 Thread David G. Friedman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Application Development Procedure I've never developed an open source database web app. Since each open source product only documents its part of the whole process, I've had some trouble finding a documented step-by-step procedure for doing the whole th

Application Development Procedure

2004-10-27 Thread Dan
I've never developed an open source database web app. Since each open source product only documents its part of the whole process, I've had some trouble finding a documented step-by-step procedure for doing the whole thing. So I tried to make one by patching together bits from the documentation o