Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Andrew Hill
+1 Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) wrote: First of all: Happy Birthday Ted (maybe a bit late, but I read the Struts mailinglist only in the office because of its hig volume) Is Struts a product? - If products means that it is marketed: I do not have the feeling - If

Re: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Duncan Mills
CTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [OT: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community which JSF list? the myfaces-list or another one? (I follow myfaces, because sun offers only a rather unfriendly forum...) Alexander (promoting Struts until I got JSF rea

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Rick Reumann
Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher wrote the following on 4/11/2005 9:26 AM: How's about calling us a "prommunity" where the product is the community (in part)? Yea, I like this - it's similar to Kramer and Frank's "bro" or "manzier":) (Happy belated birthday Ted) -- Rick --

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Dakota Jack
Happy Birthday, Ted. Many more! Both and they are not antithetical or a choice. Jack On Apr 10, 2005 4:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As of about 2a EST this morning, 134,788 messages were posted to this > list. Even for five years, that's a lot of traffic! > > Most of those me

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread gdeschen
It is simply a community. I my case I had started my own version of Struts without realizing that there was already one created but with a community behind it ! I soon stopped using my own and switched to Struts. [Okay, I still have on application in production yet to be converted] In the end S

RE: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21)
E: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community Hi Is there any other "real" list than MyFaces :) Hermod -Original Message- From: Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [OT: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] S

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
The safe answer is of course that it is both, and it's the answer I give... If it was only a product, I would say it would be worth considerably less if there wasn't such a great community built around it... And if it was just a community I would say that is kind of pointless without a product at

RE: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread hermod . opstvedt
Hi Is there any other "real" list than MyFaces :) Hermod -Original Message- From: Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [OT: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community which JSF

RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher
ED] Subject: Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community Ted, I say it's both. The software that we download is a product, but the mailing list and the friends that we have made through it is a community. Simon On Apr 10, 2005 6:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *snip* > What

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Simon Chappell
Ted, I say it's both. The software that we download is a product, but the mailing list and the friends that we have made through it is a community. Simon On Apr 10, 2005 6:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *snip* > What do you say? Are we a product or a community? > > Here's my +1 f

[OT: jsf] RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21)
, 2005 2:20 PM To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community Hi Nag Nag - Have you followed the JSF list lately ? Hermod (A great fan of Struts - and lately also JSF/Shale) -Original Message- From: Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread hermod . opstvedt
] Struts is a Community First of all: Happy Birthday Ted (maybe a bit late, but I read the Struts mailinglist only in the office because of its hig volume) Is Struts a product? - If products means that it is marketed: I do not have the feeling - If product means

RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-11 Thread Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21)
First of all: Happy Birthday Ted (maybe a bit late, but I read the Struts mailinglist only in the office because of its hig volume) Is Struts a product? - If products means that it is marketed: I do not have the feeling - If product means something like MS Off

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread NetSQL
Ted Husted wrote: What do you say? Are we a product or a community? Here's my +1 for community. -Ted. I have been talking about JDNC and Flash so loonnggg. +1 for community. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread Flemming G. Jensen
I would say Struts is both a product and a community. And in my opion this is the great thing about Struts. Struts is a product because many individuals as well as compagnies build commercial web applications based on Struts. By searching one job-index here in Denmark I find several job-announ

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread Duong BaTien
Ted Husted wrote: As of about 2a EST this morning, 134,788 messages were posted to this list. Even for five years, that's a lot of traffic! Most of those messages have been about users helping other users. Some others, often marked "Friday" or "Beer" have been about users entertaining users. :) And

Re: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread Flemming G. Jensen
I would say we are both a product and a community. And in my opion this is a very good thing. Struts is a product because many compagnies build commercial web applications based on Struts. By searching one job-index here in Denmark I find several job-announcements which asks for Struts skill

RE: [REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Benussi
wish product x had a single community like Struts', Microsoft Office products being one. +1 for Product (With an excellent support network). -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2005 12:56 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [REFERENDUM] S

[REFERENDUM] Struts is a Community

2005-04-10 Thread Ted Husted
As of about 2a EST this morning, 134,788 messages were posted to this list. Even for five years, that's a lot of traffic! Most of those messages have been about users helping other users. Some others, often marked "Friday" or "Beer" have been about users entertaining users. :) And, occasionally, w